Random Speculation: Chargers to sign Prescott?

NotForLong

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The only people on this forum that are getting their collective panties wadded, are the Dakota Apologists. The rest of us are pretty chill and just kickin back and watching the show.

Its entertaining watching them twist in the wind each day Rayne isn't signed to a contract as if their very existence depends on Dakota being here. Keep jumping through hoops!

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The only people on this forum that are getting their collective panties wadded, are the Dakota Apologists. The rest of us are pretty chill and just kickin back and watching the show.

Its entertaining watching them twist in the wind each day Rayne isn't signed to a contract as if their very existence depends on Dakota being here. Keep jumping through hoops!

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By the way I am stealing that meme
 

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Disagree. You are the Mahatma Ghandi of Dak Haters. Most of them aren't chill and dream up stuff like the LeeBlair threads saying every backup that completes four straight passes is better than Dak.

Funny stuff there! The Mother Theresa of Dak haters would also fit. Lol

I Love Dak at 17-19 Million a year, Like Dak at 23-25 Million a year. Loathe Rayne Dakota at 35-40 Million a year.......its never personal, just about the Benjamin's and our ability to improve with the excess money.
 

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Basic economics suggests the demand for retaining Dak Prescott with a contract instead of a tag increases due to the availability of an established free agent like Philip Rivers. Jerry Jones has Prescott already. He wants Prescott long-term (my opinion but nothing concrete has been established by the front office over the past four years states otherwise).

Projected availability of Prescott via the tag increases supply at the position, which potentially motivates the Chargers' increased demand. Jones could not automatically negate the Chargers' demand with the uncertain provisional outcome of the tag.

Jones' options are gaining two first-round picks versus retaining his perceived franchise quarterback. Jones has danced the two first-round picks waltz before, most notably with Joey Galloway. Would he do so again with the quarterback position in this instance? I highly doubt Jones will do so.
 

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Number 1 in yards only. Not number 1 scoring or points per game which are way better indicators. 0 wins when trailing at halftime...

Dak had one of the best 4th Quarter comeback records in history for a young QB before this snakebit season.

And if you look at points per game, Dallas was 6th even with horrible special teams. Baltimore was 1st off Jackson's play and the Bucs were slightly ahead and they were a bad team playing shootouts every week.

The other teams were the Saints, 49ers and Chiefs who were all 2 or 3 points per game better, meaning that if we had a better placekicker we would have had the same stat.
 

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Funny stuff there! The Mother Theresa of Dak haters would also fit. Lol

I Love Dak at 17-19 Million a year, Like Dak at 23-25 Million a year. Loathe Rayne Dakota at 35-40 Million a year.......its never personal, just about the Benjamin's and our ability to improve with the excess money.

My feelings exactly
Meanwhile the Dak Apologists personally Hate you, for feeling this way
 

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Funny stuff there! The Mother Theresa of Dak haters would also fit. Lol

I Love Dak at 17-19 Million a year, Like Dak at 23-25 Million a year. Loathe Rayne Dakota at 35-40 Million a year.......its never personal, just about the Benjamin's and our ability to improve with the excess money.

Ghandi showed more leg.

I wouldn't be happy if Dak got north of 35 Million either but IMO the chances of that are very small. If Stephen was willing the pay that the deal would have been done last season.

IMO both sides are going to wait to see if anything crazy happens this offseason, then sign for almost exactly what Russell Wilson got. Wilson's deal averages out to 35 but the last year is backloaded so the first three years average 29 million a year in cap hits. There will be a lot of shouting but in the end Dallas will do what they have been doing, which is pay exactly the benchmark rate.
 

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My feelings exactly
Meanwhile the Dak Apologists personally Hate you, for feeling this way

I don't hate anyone here, the people who actually hate someone are the ones I put on Ignore. And if think the Dak Haters have no personal animosity to Prescott you haven't been paying attention.
 

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Basic economics suggests the demand for retaining Dak Prescott with a contract instead of a tag increases due to the availability of an established free agent like Philip Rivers. Jerry Jones has Prescott already. He wants Prescott long-term (my opinion but nothing concrete has been established by the front office over the past four years states otherwise).

Projected availability of Prescott via the tag increases supply at the position, which potentially motivates the Chargers' increased demand. Jones could not automatically negate the Chargers' demand with the uncertain provisional outcome of the tag.

Jones' options are gaining two first-round picks versus retaining his perceived franchise quarterback. Jones has danced the two first-round picks waltz before, most notably with Joey Galloway. Would he do so again with the quarterback position in this instance? I highly doubt Jones will do so.
Its actually the opposite He gave up 2 1st round picks for Galloway. In this instance he would be gaining 2 1st rd picks.

(Galloway trade was made out of desperation for passing in Moss)

Gaining draft picks and still being able to add a quality QB is a nice option to have.

I will not argue who sucks and who doesnt. But there are many QB's who may become available. All with different Pros and Cons. Depending on your preference

Mike is the one who has been studying all year. I believe he will have an imput as to who he believes he can work with. Who has the skills he covets.

This year is unique in that way

The Chargers are interesting in that there is a big Fan Base of Cowboy Fans in Southern California.

In a pool of equally talented QB's. Dak could actually build a solid Fan Base for the Chargers who are going through a huge Transition.

The NFL may actually want this.

Cowboys would lose the beloved Dak but still gain. The all important commodity of draft picks and there would still be a solid QB to fall back on

Win win for everybody.

Chargers, Cowboys and the NFL

The NFL needs the chargers to succeed in LA

and so does Jerry

Jerry owns the Rights (thru a sub corporation) to the Chargers box seats

(As well as The Raiders and Rams. Why do you think he was so instrumental in petitioning the Cities in which they are moving to, to invest money to build new stadiums)
 

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Dak had one of the best 4th Quarter comeback records in history for a young QB before this snakebit season.

And if you look at points per game, Dallas was 6th even with horrible special teams. Baltimore was 1st off Jackson's play and the Bucs were slightly ahead and they were a bad team playing shootouts every week.

The other teams were the Saints, 49ers and Chiefs who were all 2 or 3 points per game better, meaning that if we had a better placekicker we would have had the same stat.
O 4th quarter comebacks in 2019...
 

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Sorry, left this before it fell off the rails. Had a decision to make.....

1) Do I stay here and partake of this delightfully intellectual thread, or
2) Watch Kinga Phillips wander through the Luzon rainforest in very short shorts?

Not that I have anything against intellectual conversation, but Kinga Phillips and her shorts won out.
 

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I don't hate anyone here, the people who actually hate someone are the ones I put on Ignore. And if think the Dak Haters have no personal animosity to Prescott you haven't been paying attention.
He laid out the perfect payscale, and corresponding feelings for each, for Dak and I commented that Dak Apologists would Hate him for it.

I didnt say you Hate him as a person. I said his opinion of what is acceptable to pay Dak will cause you to Hate.

You all are obsessed with paying him 40-45 million

No one hates Dak personally thats how you project it in order to defeat them in arguments.

It keeps you from discussing facts in order to shape the argument. You pigion hole someone as Hating in order to defeat THAT strawman.

In every argument all you have to do is claim someone is Hating and thus dismiss thier opinion
 

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Its actually the opposite He gave up 2 1st round picks for Galloway. In this instance he would be gaining 2 1st rd picks.
Both real and hypothetical situations involves two first-round picks that would result in a desired outcome. Jones' desire to obtain Galloway's services exceeded his need for two first-round picks. In this particular instance, some outside observers believe Jones will develop a need for two first-round picks that shall exceed his want for retaining a quarterback he perceives as a franchise quarterback for the long-term.

There are individuals. And then there is an owner who named himself general manager and threw in the title of president for emphasis. Some people believe Jones shares the same definition of opportunity cost in this particular instance as they do when the truth is extremely likely they do not. The self-perception of gain and loss is not even remotely equal.
 

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Not that I have anything against intellectual conversation, but Kinga Phillips and her shorts won out.

I think you could eliminate options until you got down to Captain Kangaroo and it would still be a better option.
 

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People saw the Cowboys bring in all new coaches. Now they are excited about 2020 and think we are going to do well. The playoffs for sure. Maybe even a deep run.

If you let Dak walk you better have a viable alternative lined up and be able to explain to the fans how it is better. And it needs to actually be better. No more smoke and mirrors. That won't do. Not anymore. Otherwise you are throwing your brand new coaching staff under the bus.

So what's the alternative? No one has ever put one out there that isn't just someone's fantasy opinion or makes no sense.

If you want to talk about something...................talk about that.
 

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I think you could eliminate options until you got down to Captain Kangaroo and it would still be a better option.

True, but Kinga Phillips I would pillow fight in a jello pit during a hot Texas August any day! Hell, I'd let her win!
 
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