I think the NFL should steal the XFL's kickoff rules

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The NFL took from other leagues before. Those cameras hanging over the field for alternate views were an XFL idea. The names on the backs of jerseys came from the old AFL. The NFL keeps threatening to take away an exciting part of the game -- the kickoff -- because they want to avoid injuries. The XFL has figured out how to do kickoffs without having players run full speed down the field, building up a bunch of momentum and then crashing into the runner. IMO, the XFL way of doing it could work, and it would preserve the kickoffs.
 
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Reverend Conehead said:
The NFL took from other leagues before. Those cameras hanging over the field for alternate views were an XFL idea. The names on the backs of jerseys came from the old AFL. The NFL keeps threatening to take away an exciting part of the game -- the kickoff -- because they want to avoid injuries. The XFL has figured out how to do kickoffs without having players run full speed down the field, building up a bunch of momentum and then crashing into the runner. IMO, the XFL way of doing it could work, and it would preserve the kickoffs.
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I agree.

With the talent level in the NFL, this could be an exciting display of blocking technique and design,
open field tackling and some reverses.

I also like the punting rule in the XFL where, if the ball goes into the end zone it's placed at the 35 yard line ( I think).
It will bring back the coffin corner kicks. (Anybody here remember Ray Guy?)
 
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Watching the game w a friend the other day.

Tells me I should see the kickoff, it's a good idea for a compromise since the NFL wants to eliminate it.

I hate gimmicks and change but I think this works.

Problem is it doesnt solve the onside kick situation, but teams cant really recover them now anyway...and theres almost never a surprise one anyway.
 
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Ghost12 said:
They should adopt the XFL's kickoff rules and switch the onside kick to the "4th and 15" scenario.
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4th and 15 isn't your normal 4th and 15 since itll be against a gassed defense, with an offense with momentum.

The conversion rate would be way higher than an onside kick, especially with today's rules, and just not fair to a team protecting a lead.

Besides, if it's all about injury prevention, a player cant get hurt on 4th and 15??
 
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Oh and what about all the bogus defensive holding calls you'll see on that play?

The league wants to benefit from all this gambling but they are failing to realize all the controversy they are setting themselves up for.
 
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I agree with the kickoff thing. One thing I hope the NFL doesn't copy are the hideous uniform designs of the XFL. lol
 

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fivetwos said:
4th and 15 isn't your normal 4th and 15 since itll be against a gassed defense, with an offense with momentum.
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Gimme a break. After any score, there is a several minute pause before everyone is lined up for the subsequent kickoff. If you can't catch your breath in those minutes, then train harder.
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The conversion rate would be way higher than an onside kick, especially with today's rules, and just not fair to a team protecting a lead.
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"Way higher"? What is "way higher"? Quite honestly, I think the success rate for onsides kicks under the current format is too low. I would much rather see teams get a fighting chance.
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Besides, if it's all about injury prevention, a player cant get hurt on 4th and 15??
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A player can get hurt on any play at any time. But statistically, the current NFL kickoff is a higher risk play than your regular plays from scrimmage.

Maybe you'd prefer just rolling some dice? No one can get hurt doing that.
 
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Ghost12 said:
Gimme a break. After any score, there is a several minute pause before everyone is lined up for the subsequent kickoff. If you can't catch your breath in those minutes, then train harder.
"Way higher"? What is "way higher"? Quite honestly, I think the success rate for onsides kicks under the current format is too low. I would much rather see teams get a fighting chance.
A player can get hurt on any play at any time. But statistically, the current NFL kickoff is a higher risk play than your regular plays from scrimmage.

Maybe you'd prefer just rolling some dice? No one can get hurt doing that.
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Sorry to have offended you.
 
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Reverend Conehead said:
The NFL took from other leagues before. Those cameras hanging over the field for alternate views were an XFL idea. The names on the backs of jerseys came from the old AFL. The NFL keeps threatening to take away an exciting part of the game -- the kickoff -- because they want to avoid injuries. The XFL has figured out how to do kickoffs without having players run full speed down the field, building up a bunch of momentum and then crashing into the runner. IMO, the XFL way of doing it could work, and it would preserve the kickoffs.
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Plus, they want returns.

Blasting a kickoff through the end zone means the offense takes over at the 35. If the kickoff lands short of the 20 yard line the offense takes over on the opponent's 45 yard line.
 
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fivetwos said:
4th and 15 isn't your normal 4th and 15 since itll be against a gassed defense, with an offense with momentum.

The conversion rate would be way higher than an onside kick, especially with today's rules, and just not fair to a team protecting a lead.

Besides, if it's all about injury prevention, a player cant get hurt on 4th and 15??
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I think it should be 4th and 25 or 30 starting from their own 25, honestly. That would bring it closer to in line with onside kick success. It would take more into account a gassed defense. It would also make it far riskier to do, guaranteeing more player safety because fewer attempts at it would be made.
 

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DeathMonkey said:
I think it should be 4th and 25 or 30 starting from their own 25, honestly. That would bring it closer to in line with onside kick success. It would take more into account a gassed defense. It would also make it far riskier to do, guaranteeing more player safety because fewer attempts at it would be made.
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Having a play from scrimmage in lieu of a kickoff is not a safety hazard. In fact, it’s *safer* to have the play from scrimmage.

I think if they move to a format where you have to announce before the play you are attempting to do this, then you’ll see it done when teams are in end-of-game desperation mode, but it’s not like we will see it during the rest of the game.
 
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CATCH17 said:
I like the rule but they have to find a way to keep onside kicks..
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If a team wishes to run an onside kick, it must indicate this to the official before the play and the two teams will be permitted to line up using traditional NFL rules (i.e. 10 yards apart from the kicking team). There will be no surprise onside kicks.

https://www.xfl.com/rules
 
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Reverend Conehead said:
The NFL took from other leagues before. Those cameras hanging over the field for alternate views were an XFL idea. The names on the backs of jerseys came from the old AFL. The NFL keeps threatening to take away an exciting part of the game -- the kickoff -- because they want to avoid injuries. The XFL has figured out how to do kickoffs without having players run full speed down the field, building up a bunch of momentum and then crashing into the runner. IMO, the XFL way of doing it could work, and it would preserve the kickoffs.
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My personal opinion, go back to kicking from the 30 using the old rules and injuries be damned. Counter injuries by expanding the roster so more players can be dedicated for special teams. This is a high impact sport. Stop trying to prevent impact. No gimmick is going to be better than kickoffs used to be. That solves the onsides kick problem as well.
 
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