Cowboys blew their best window to win with Sensational Rookies

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Diehardblues said:
We all knew while under their Rookie contracts was the best window to win with Dak and Zeke.

As we’ve discussed in other threads once you pay your QB it lessens the opportunity to win a championship as best chance is under their Rookie contract because of the ability to surround them with a stronger supporting cast.

If you strongly believe in this then I don’t see the argument in wanting to sign Dak to a contract that’s going to lessen our chances to win a championship.

We should be looking for the next best Rookie QB we can land so we can continue providing the type of supporting cast we’ve had while possibly attempting to upgrade some of its weaknesses.

And if we miss on our next Rookie QB then it will place us in a higher draft slot the next time.

It’s not like we are leaving championships behind us. We’ve missed the playoffs 2 of the last 3 seasons. I’m not sure the attachment considering how paying him will lessen our chances moving forward. I’m only left with some kind of emotional attachment not what’s best for Cowboys Football.
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The offseason sucks.
 

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This franchise has not been poised to win a championship since Jimmy Johnson left and Barry Switzer inherited a team living off Johnson's fumes.
Don't kid yourself. Winning a Super Bowl is a FRANCHISE effort, not simply the players' efforts. We haven't had the ownership to win a championship or coaching that can overcome itself or ownership.

But, yes, we have wasted talent.
 
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Diehardblues said:
Yes, teams pay their franchise QB and then don’t win anymore championships with rare exceptions.

So, is paying them simply about rewarding them since it doesn’t present the best opportunity to win a championship once we pay them.

Perhaps with a couple decades of evidence in Cap era after paying franchise QB’s we need to re-evaluate the effects and take a step back assessing what provides teams the best opportunity to win a championship.
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What's the option? Drafting a rookie QB who will take 2-3 years to find out if he actually was worth it? Meanwhile, by the end of that 3rd year, most of your current in-their-prime players will either be on the downside of their careers or gone via free agency? Then you would have to rebuild while wondering how much better you could have fared had you paid Dak, kept him while he was in his prime and at least made the playoffs every year those 3 years with this new but proven coaching staff.

Ick.

I'd prefer to pay Dak, keep him here and at least make sure you're going to reach the playoffs every year for the next 3-4 years under this new but proven coaching staff. Once you make the playoffs, anything can happen.
 
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ghst187 said:
You can thank JG....
Who also wasted HOF talents of Romo and Witten....two seasons of which should’ve at least made the NFC Champ game or beyond...
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yes yes it was all the Coaches fault I mean he dropped all the passes, blew all the coverages, missed all the blocks, missed all the tackles, ran all the wrong routes, missed the fgs, fumbled, threw Ints, couldn't get sacks, missed assignments, got punt blocked, and threw inaccurate balls..

right the players had nothing to do with it..

phack that lots of players had 80% to do with those early out seasons.. and one ref or two lol but hey lets make excuses for the bad execution's and throw the coaches under the bus..we all watched the games the coaches can only coach so much but when your players make the 3 mistakes that can lose a game , not sure how to go there..

all the way back to the Romo FG botch, Craytons bad game, the game where murray fumbled, Baily misses TWO Fgs, and the d couldn't hold for 1:37 to win a game, and players who couldn't tackle a running back etc etc

sure better coaching maybe helps a little in these games maybe win a game or two more in the season but really the players themselves WASTED the windows..
 
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Diehardblues said:
I agree he’s going to get paid.

That’s not the argument I’m presenting which is it lessens our chances of winning a championship. Which we blew our best window.

That’s not on Dak. It’s just a fact based on NFL history in Cap era after paying your QB.
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no argument here.Imagine that the cowboys blowing a good opportunity.
 
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shabazz said:
Continue to support the team because the last time I checked, we are allowed to have an actual opinion on some of the players while supporting the star. The two things aren't diametrically opposed. Its their business as to how much they pay for Dakota, but being part of a fan base allows us to critique that decision.
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without a doubt you are allowed to have an actual opinion. thats the beauty of being a fan you can have opinions over and over and over etc. Ive had some opinions as well.some are shared by other fans some are not.
 
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Not so sure that is true. We'll have to wait and see what the team looks likes once games get started. They have the right coaching staff in place now.
 
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Diehardblues said:
We all knew while under their Rookie contracts was the best window to win with Dak and Zeke.

As we’ve discussed in other threads once you pay your QB it lessens the opportunity to win a championship as best chance is under their Rookie contract because of the ability to surround them with a stronger supporting cast.

If you strongly believe in this then I don’t see the argument in wanting to sign Dak to a contract that’s going to lessen our chances to win a championship.

We should be looking for the next best Rookie QB we can land so we can continue providing the type of supporting cast we’ve had while possibly attempting to upgrade some of its weaknesses.

And if we miss on our next Rookie QB then it will place us in a higher draft slot the next time.

It’s not like we are leaving championships behind us. We’ve missed the playoffs 2 of the last 3 seasons. I’m not sure the attachment considering how paying him will lessen our chances moving forward. I’m only left with some kind of emotional attachment not what’s best for Cowboys Football.
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Yep, and its because Jones didnt fire the horrid Garrett a long time ago. This is old news.
 

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Diehardblues said:
Please provide your arguments why unlike the rest of the NFL after paying our QB our chances increase to win a championship.
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I don't think you're wrong. I do, however, think that these "big" contracts won't look anything like the ones that will be given out after the next CBA. I think these percentages will drop drastically. So, it may not be as much of a hamper as it could be.

I'm much higher on Dak than you are, but I'm against one guy getting a massive percentage of the salary cap unless they can truly do it without people around them. Those QB's just don't exist in my opinion.
 
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rocyaice said:
Can’t blame him when he doesn’t run the team. Jerry should’ve fired him and shouldn’t have hired him. I can’t get mad a employee that’s not doing his job but is not getting fired
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Sure, but you can acknowledge that he sucks at his job and certainly cut the guy up when he makes your life worse because of it.

And certainly there is going to be no band of clowns running around talking about how good he really is. And definitely nobody running round calling him the best BAD employee we could ever hope for or thier favorite bad employee.

:lmao2::lmao::lmao:
 
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I somewhat agree. The defense didn't make enough of an impact. We have 0 playmakers on the defensive side of the ball.
 
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