Twitter: Spotrac: Goff dead cap figure will be $94M on 3/19/20

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I would draft a QB in rounds 1-3 every couple of years with the view to them replacing the existing rookie QB depending upon performance or use them as trade bait like the Patriots did with Jimmy G.

Show me where this has EVER been done in the NFL. Please don't use Brady and Pats. Belichick drafted QBs to back-up Brady and trade them. Ever notice none of them can close to replacing Brady. Every NFL team, coach, or GM is looking/hoping for LONG-TERM stability for their QB position.

BTW...what happens when your original rookie is up for the new deal and your rotational drafting strategy hasn't produced a replacement?
 

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Only looks crazy because they had a down year. Before last year, it looked great. 2 years from now it may look like a bargain.


Goff had one passing TD in the entire playoff run and Super Bowl two years ago.
 

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the Titans were already questioning (souring) on Marcus Mariota, which brought on the decision to get Tannehill.
If Ryan T. can manage to hold Titans hostage with a demand for a near 30 million a year, then he needs to get his agent an extra bonus.

As Derrek Henry goes, so does the Titans, Tannehill is a bus driver they count on not make the big mistakes and take over the game but if i'm Tannehill's camp, i'm playing the
Titans club as if you want to keep me, then " over-pay" me as if it'm a high market starting QB, or i'll take my bus-driving somewhere else.

I don't have an issue with him being paid $27-28 million a season - that's about his his level in the current market as in if a team is going to pay for an average guy, that's his mark.

He mostly played on an awful Dolphins team towards the end the offensive line was dangerous.

People seem to not actually take this into account for quarterbacks! There is a difference between having half a second to throw the ball to nobody and being able to sit in the pocket for wide open receivers...it will impact upon their stats :facepalm:
 
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Goff had one passing TD in the entire playoff run and Super Bowl two years ago.

He went a month without throwing a TD this past season.

His coach made him the decent player he is and they felt obligated to resign him because they invested the #1 pick.

They should've drafted Wentz like I said back during that draft but they went "safe" over talent and now they can enjoy their safe QB that needs his coach to hold his hand.
 

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Show me where this has EVER been done in the NFL. Please don't use Brady and Pats. Belichick drafted QBs to back-up Brady and trade them. Ever notice none of them can close to replacing Brady. Every NFL team, coach, or GM is looking/hoping for LONG-TERM stability for their QB position.

BTW...what happens when your original rookie is up for the new deal and your rotational drafting strategy hasn't produced a replacement?


Good scouting systems should be able to draft a suitable replacement within 5 years, they would get at least two decent draft picks to be successful. If not, then you might have a year or two of going through transition. It's still a lot better than having countless pointless, irrelevant seasons.

I completely agree that teams have not done this and that's why you have countless teams scratching their heads why they haven't been successful after overpaying for average quarterbacks - the remainder of their roster has suffered as a result.

I genuinely believe that Belichick would have adopted this strategy YEARS ago had it not been for Tom Brady being Tom Brady because this is exactly what he does in every position unless the player is elite and willing to not be paid silly money.

He has been itching to do this over the past few seasons - he knows that Brady is declining but equally, there is a power struggle with Kraft/Brady/Belichick and he can't really make his move until Brady either retires or moves on.
 

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That’s crazy what Goff got.

However, it’s simply the QB market. Solid QBs, not elite guys going to make over 30+ (Dak, Tannehill, Teddy etc).

Nothing you can do about it.
In all fairness Dak is better than both those guys
 

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I don't have an issue with him being paid $27-28 million a season - that's about his his level in the current market as in if a team is going to pay for an average guy, that's his mark.

He mostly played on an awful Dolphins team towards the end the offensive line was dangerous.

People seem to not actually take this into account for quarterbacks! There is a difference between having half a second to throw the ball to nobody and being able to sit in the pocket for wide open receivers...it will impact upon their stats :facepalm:

and just I said, the Tannenill camp is gonna clean the plate with forcing them to go with the Tannehill demands. they are gonna make him a high market value QB, because
operational starting QBs are just that hard to find. Overpaid or not, teams are gonna them as their centerpiece, cornerstone QBs and seek to lock them up for years to come.

I'm sure Titans wanted to comfortably believe Marcus Mariota was definitely their guy.
Especially with investing the No.2 overall pick in him. But it clearly wasn't happening and they had to seek better answer.
I still tend to wonder if Tannehill was more a backup insurance option than the guy fully planned to permanently supplant Mariota,.. but to their surprise

Going into a game vs Titans, I'm not game-planning for Tannehill, all attention is easily gonna be on Derrick Henry, they go as he goes, and force Tannehill to beat us - but bus-driver or not, to Ryan's credit, he actually made enough of the plays in the playoffs in not one but TWO huge upsets vs Pats and Ravens. That's what and all you can ask a bus-driver QB to do.
and the Tannehill camp is gonna take full advantage of that fantastic upsets and stretch run.
 

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Only looks crazy because they had a down year. Before last year, it looked great. 2 years from now it may look like a bargain.
I'm not sure Goff ever looked great honestly. He was protected by a lot of play action passing that was less effective last year.
 

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Hey look how stupid the Rams are? Let's go be stupid too! Yay!
they're holding a fireside sale. putting players for sale on e-bay. Stephen keeps it simple. there is a pie. there are only so many slices of pie.
 

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Rams pay Gurley. Gurley struggles. Cowboys follow suit and pay Zeke.

Rams Pay Goff. Goff isn't very good. Rams suck and now can't afford their players who really made them good.

Cowboys follow suit? Yay. I'm happy!

Pretty much..
 

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This is why you draft a QB...not sign a mid tier QB to top 5 money. College and NFL offenses are very similar these days. They can succeed with good talent around them.
 

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Anyone else notice, we have not heard one word about owners addressing QB salaries under the new CBA they are currently working on.
That wouldn't come from them anymore than the rookie salaries did, that's NFLPA territory. The question is what are they going to do with that increase being disproportionate to the overall cap raises? If they try something, you will see the formation of the NFLQBA and they will break away.

The owners only care about the total % of the cap distributed to players, not by position.

Hawk, the first thing to lose is the sense of fair play that should be part of this. It is not, it is pure capitalism at it's ugliest. I want mine and to hell with everybody else. I don't care what kind of team they put around me, I want mine. I don't care who else has to pack up and move on, I want mine. I only care about mine.
 

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I don't have an issue with him being paid $27-28 million a season - that's about his his level in the current market as in if a team is going to pay for an average guy, that's his mark.

He mostly played on an awful Dolphins team towards the end the offensive line was dangerous.

People seem to not actually take this into account for quarterbacks! There is a difference between having half a second to throw the ball to nobody and being able to sit in the pocket for wide open receivers...it will impact upon their stats :facepalm:
Our QB has cost us $4 million of 4 years and couldn't win jack. Paying a scrub QB like Tannehill because he didn't totally suck for a few games this year 7 times more annually what Dak made over 4 years will kill any hope this team has of winning in the foreseeable future. Just say not to Tannehill!!!
 

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Jared Goff, lol

No one was laughing in 2018 when he had great numbers and led the Rams to the Super Bowl. The big 2018 season he had along with the QB market dictated what he got paid.
 
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