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It is silly season, i.e. the time of year where there is no real NFL action. It sucks and is just sad. This sadness and desperation is now filled with social media noise on a volume of 10. And I mean utter insane screeching where I state "noise".
To help return some sanity I'd like to make some basic rules for us to agree to follow.
Many will not agree of course but we will get to how to handle that as well.
Rule 1. NFL off-season trades are pretty rare. If you are proposing trading a guy your team has benched or has been mentioned as a possible cut you can not suggest trading said player for R1 draft picks and other insane hauls. If you think other NFL franchises are crazy, perhaps look in the mirror at your own idea first.
Rule 2. You can not trade a player to a team without the cap space to take on said player. While they may could create said room, if they have cap issues chances are they aren't trading for the guy you no longer want to pay or can't afford to yourself.
Rule 3. You can not trade free agents.
Rule 4. Repeat, you can not trade free agents. Tagging a player only retains rights on said player as far as the contract stands as is. To trade (or simply match or lose) a franchise tagged player the other team inherits rules for such. See Jadeveon Clowney being traded to the Seahawks last year. The Hawks could not resign or extend him before the season ended. Thus why the haul was 2 non-starters and a low 3rd round pick. --not 2 R1 picks.
Rule 5. NFL teams value different things in some cases but largely not. Draft picks are always valued because they provide cheap labor. Draft picks gain value as you approach their use; so picks in 2 months weight more than picks in 9 or 10 months. QBs are always valued because without them the NFL is the XFL. Teams do not trade proven QB starters under the age of 30. They just won't do it. Closest case has been Jimmy G who was unproven and it took Tom Brady's personal intervention to make that happen. You can trade for QBs who are under .500 for a career and 30+. See Ryan Tannehill. OR you can possibly pay gazillions for a former QB star on the sharp downside. See Payton Manning going to Denver.
Rule 6. If you and all your draftnik friends agree player X is your team's guy this early in the draft process, chances are good you have miscalculated player X's actual draft value. This has occurred almost yearly for the Dallas Cowboys fan base. Guys like Aaron Donald were always going to go before DAL picked. I suspect that will apply to Kinlaw this year .. BUT it could be the opposite, It could be Kinlaw has reds flag medicals and isn't even on the team's R1 board.
Rule 7. Don't get high off on your own draftnik study. ((Yes, I stole and badly worded this from Biggie's 10 crack commandments.)) Draftnik's fall in love with a guy to the point they can no longer process that player's actual strengths and weaknesses. Every good NFL play that player makes is another social media post. Stop it.
Rule 8. Google draft value charts before suggesting trades. Arguing you can trade pick 20 for pick 25 and 5 other non 7th round picks is goofy. Stop it. In reverse arguing you can trade up from 20 to 10 in round 1 for your 3rd is stupid. Stop it. There are lots of charts and numbers don't need to match but teams only throw them out totally when trading up for QBs.
Rule 9. If you do not have a QB nothing else matters. Teams are not wasting prime resources on anything else if they feel they lack a QB. Recall the DAL Carter/Henson/Hutchinson era... /shivers.
Rule 10. If you constantly see these rules being violated simply place that person on ignore/block. You can try to bring them to sanity but you can not correct crazy with a keyboard. You are far more likely to end up crazy yourself.
Here's to hoping we all survive, minds intact, to week 1 NFL 2020.
To help return some sanity I'd like to make some basic rules for us to agree to follow.
Many will not agree of course but we will get to how to handle that as well.
Rule 1. NFL off-season trades are pretty rare. If you are proposing trading a guy your team has benched or has been mentioned as a possible cut you can not suggest trading said player for R1 draft picks and other insane hauls. If you think other NFL franchises are crazy, perhaps look in the mirror at your own idea first.
Rule 2. You can not trade a player to a team without the cap space to take on said player. While they may could create said room, if they have cap issues chances are they aren't trading for the guy you no longer want to pay or can't afford to yourself.
Rule 3. You can not trade free agents.
Rule 4. Repeat, you can not trade free agents. Tagging a player only retains rights on said player as far as the contract stands as is. To trade (or simply match or lose) a franchise tagged player the other team inherits rules for such. See Jadeveon Clowney being traded to the Seahawks last year. The Hawks could not resign or extend him before the season ended. Thus why the haul was 2 non-starters and a low 3rd round pick. --not 2 R1 picks.
Rule 5. NFL teams value different things in some cases but largely not. Draft picks are always valued because they provide cheap labor. Draft picks gain value as you approach their use; so picks in 2 months weight more than picks in 9 or 10 months. QBs are always valued because without them the NFL is the XFL. Teams do not trade proven QB starters under the age of 30. They just won't do it. Closest case has been Jimmy G who was unproven and it took Tom Brady's personal intervention to make that happen. You can trade for QBs who are under .500 for a career and 30+. See Ryan Tannehill. OR you can possibly pay gazillions for a former QB star on the sharp downside. See Payton Manning going to Denver.
Rule 6. If you and all your draftnik friends agree player X is your team's guy this early in the draft process, chances are good you have miscalculated player X's actual draft value. This has occurred almost yearly for the Dallas Cowboys fan base. Guys like Aaron Donald were always going to go before DAL picked. I suspect that will apply to Kinlaw this year .. BUT it could be the opposite, It could be Kinlaw has reds flag medicals and isn't even on the team's R1 board.
Rule 7. Don't get high off on your own draftnik study. ((Yes, I stole and badly worded this from Biggie's 10 crack commandments.)) Draftnik's fall in love with a guy to the point they can no longer process that player's actual strengths and weaknesses. Every good NFL play that player makes is another social media post. Stop it.
Rule 8. Google draft value charts before suggesting trades. Arguing you can trade pick 20 for pick 25 and 5 other non 7th round picks is goofy. Stop it. In reverse arguing you can trade up from 20 to 10 in round 1 for your 3rd is stupid. Stop it. There are lots of charts and numbers don't need to match but teams only throw them out totally when trading up for QBs.
Rule 9. If you do not have a QB nothing else matters. Teams are not wasting prime resources on anything else if they feel they lack a QB. Recall the DAL Carter/Henson/Hutchinson era... /shivers.
Rule 10. If you constantly see these rules being violated simply place that person on ignore/block. You can try to bring them to sanity but you can not correct crazy with a keyboard. You are far more likely to end up crazy yourself.
Here's to hoping we all survive, minds intact, to week 1 NFL 2020.
