Yahoo Sports on If Dak is worth $40 mil

InTheZone · Feb 18, 2020

CowboyRoy said:
You have been completely wrong about Prescott up to this point, what makes you think that will change?

This article is actually a prefect example of how you think and how unfounded and baseless most of your claims are.

care to put the facts out showing us that there's no opinion allowed on Dak and he is whatever you say he is? I've been wrong on prescott because some of you say so, got it!

Sydla · Feb 18, 2020

And by the way, this new logic that it's OK to pay Dak basically whatever because the new CBA will explode the cap is just not very sound logic either.

CATCH17 · Feb 18, 2020

Sydla said:
And by the way, this new logic that it's OK to pay Dak basically whatever because the new CBA will explode the cap is just not very sound logic either.

I agree but that is kind of our only hope.

Jerry and Stephen will cave to whatever Dak wants I think.

Ranched · Feb 18, 2020

Dallasfann said:
It's pretty clear. Pay Dak top money and the team sits at bottom of barrel. Dude couldn't win the NFC East last year for god sake.

Agree. For the life of me I can't understand why Dak benched our 2 top WR's on 4th and goal on the last and most important play of the game w/the division crown on the line?!

How about that Rams game? Dak hurt his shoulder in the 1st quarter and had the audacity to remain in the game and defeat a winning team.

I want a quarterback who gets hurt every single season while paying him $31.383 base salary.

DallasEast · Feb 18, 2020

Chuck 54 said:
I love DAK, but he's not worth 40 million dollars. Guess what? Mahommes isn't worth 40 million, nor anyone else in the NFL.
Baseball pitchers who never have a winning record aren't worth the millions they make every year either, and NBA players who are in the goofiest entertainment, not sport industry of all for most of the regular season, aren't worth the millions they make.

It's not about the player's production being worth the millions; it never is worth that ridiculous money. It's about entertainment; do they bring in interest and fans, and do things fall apart without them. Unless you have a solid QB plan for a young, exciting player or a veteran who is actually better than Dak, that makes him worth whatever the market will bear. It's sucks, but them's the facts.

It is slightly off-topic but I stopped being crazed by professional athletes contracts a while back also--whether its team or single sports athletes. True wealth negates need and need (in the absence of idiotic want) is essentially nullified when income reaches the low seven figures. And do not get me started on billionaires. :laugh:

For the NFL, the only relevant factor is impact of large contractual salaries on teams' salary cap flexibility. The owners and players union agreed to the hard cap structure in 1993 and it has been central to player contracts ever since. And people used to dislike how often I would go on rants about the ratified 1993 CBA both on another Site That Shall Not Be Named and the first couple of years here on CowboysZone. It was plainly obvious how contentious player contracts would eventually become in the NFL. Or it was for me that is. :muttley:

Hadenough · Feb 18, 2020

Chuck 54 said:
I love DAK, but he's not worth 40 million dollars. Guess what? Mahommes isn't worth 40 million, nor anyone else in the NFL.
Baseball pitchers who never have a winning record aren't worth the millions they make every year either, and NBA players who are in the goofiest entertainment, not sport industry of all for most of the regular season, aren't worth the millions they make.

It's not about the player's production being worth the millions; it never is worth that ridiculous money. It's about entertainment; do they bring in interest and fans, and do things fall apart without them. Unless you have a solid QB plan for a young, exciting player or a veteran who is actually better than Dak, that makes him worth whatever the market will bear. It's sucks, but them's the facts.

The elite can rise up and win championships and are worth holding onto at all costs. But the slightly above avg QB 15th to 10th wanting to place himself in the top 5 is only hurting himself. Tag him and draft his successor.

kskboys · Feb 18, 2020

Creeper said:
If we are going to play the game who who is worth more based on their play, the why is Russell Wilson making more than Tom Brady? or Drew Brees? Yes, Wilson is better than Dak, but he will only be the highest paid QB until the next round of QB negotiations.

I have no issue with the argument that Dak is not as good as Wilson, but that's not what contracts are about. The only question is, does Dallas think that Dak can take them to a Super Bowl and win it? He has shown flashes of brilliant play, then he showed us the Eagles game which was a disaster. Dak made this a very difficult decision for the Cowboys. Had he played well against the Eagles, I think he would have a good argument to get a deal done for some crazy money. But he sucked. He wasn't just bad, he was stupid bad. Wentz made him look silly and Wentz had no receivers at all. But I know what Dak is doing. He is listening to his agents. They are telling him to hold out for some crazy number hoping to press the Cowboys into a corner. The Cowboys should respond by signing a decent backup and if Dak holds out for anything near $40 million the Cowboys should plan on starting the season with their backup and Dak on the franchise tag.

Just remember, whatever Dak is asking for, be it $40 million less, the Cowboys have clearly been unwilling to give it to him. I wish I know what the Cowboys coaches and scouts were telling Jerry. Are they telling him Dak's last 6 games were correctable, or are they telling him what you see is what you get from Dak? Maybe they are telling Jerry Dak is the guy and Jerry still doesn't think Dak is worth $40 million.

It SHOULD be what contracts are about.

black label · Feb 18, 2020

shabazz said:
The Cowboys are the only fools that would pay anything close to 40 Mil for Rayne Dakota. They wont abandon Jerrys teat for the milking

GMO415 · Feb 19, 2020

So is it Daks fault he has all this talent and the team didn't do better?

Sounds like coaching to me. Perhaps that's why Garrett's no longer a HC in the NFL......

Starforever · Feb 19, 2020

For all that is written in that embellished article; when disputed by facts, the naysayers double down.

InTheZone · Feb 19, 2020

DallasEast said:
It is slightly off-topic but I stopped being crazed by professional athletes contracts a while back also--whether its team or single sports athletes. True wealth negates need and need (in the absence of idiotic want) is essentially nullified when income reaches the low seven figures. And do not get me started on billionaires.

For the NFL, the only relevant factor is impact of large contractual salaries on teams' salary cap flexibility. The owners and players union agreed to the hard cap structure in 1993 and it has been central to player contracts ever since. And people used to dislike how often I would go on rants about the ratified 1993 CBA both on another Site That Shall Not Be Named and the first couple of years here on CowboysZone. It was plainly obvious how contentious player contracts would eventually become in the NFL. Or it was for me that is.

My thread was more about the value of his contract and what benefit it will be to sign him, not on what we think about the income of the players and owners lol. I have no issues though with how much they make, I actually believe players in general should all make more based on what the owners bring in. People pay for products at a price they consider fair.

foofighters · Feb 19, 2020

shabazz said:
The Cowboys are the only fools that would pay anything close to 40 Mil for Rayne Dakota. They wont abandon Jerrys teat for the milking

I am telling ya, in a few years, that 40mil is gonna be chump change compared to what they will be paying QB's.

InTheZone · Feb 19, 2020

foofighters said:
I am telling ya, in a few years, that 40mil is gonna be chump change compared to what they will be paying QB's.

Are we trying to justify an overpriced contract now or just speaking about qb contracts in general in the future? I'm all for the league reversing this disproportionate QB contract fad. Unless elite I would cycle qbs every 4-5 years through the draft

DallasEast · Feb 19, 2020

InTheZone said:
My thread was more about the value of his contract and what benefit it will be to sign him, not on what we think about the income of the players and owners lol. I have no issues though with how much they make, I actually believe players in general should all make more based on what the owners bring in. People pay for products at a price they consider fair.

Noted. Perhaps I should have eliminated the word 'slightly' from my reply to @Chuck 54, where I stated "slightly off-topic".

Be assured I have a firm understanding of factors contributing to above norm contractual compensation (economics minor). There is no set ceiling for accumulating wealth. I believe Chuck 54 and I were both reflecting upon the relevance of wealth in direct relation to actual need.

Please excuse the philosophical sidetrack.

eromeopolk · Feb 19, 2020

InTheZone said:
https://sports.yahoo.com/does-dak-prescott-think-worth-235927484.html

Always enjoy reading comments about our team, sometimes good, sometimes bad.

My two favorite so far:

"Dak worth more than Wilson ? On what planet ? Wilson has gone to 2 Superbowls and won one. Dak cannot throw one TD against the Saints, Eagles or Patriots. Dak has everything any QB could ask for, good OL, great RB, 2 1000 yard receivers. He could not take the Cowboys to the playoffs on the weakest division in the NFL. I have seen him miss rb's that are 5 yards from him. He cannot throw deep with any consistent accuracy. He cannot read defenses. He is big, young strong and athletic. But he is an average QB. Ryan Fitzpatrick could have won Dallas the division, as could have probably half the starting QBs in the league. He is not nor will he ever be a franchise QB."

and

"He says he doesn’t want to put a number to it. Well, Cowboys offered $33mil and that number was slapped away. So he’s got a number or else he would’ve signed that contract. And Dak’s going to gut the offense and trickle on down to the defense. That means he won’t get to a SB and Jerry will die without another title."

Sure we have to hope for the best for the team, but when it comes to this QB I just feel like it's apparent what's going to ultimately happen.

Oh yes, in before the "another Dak thread" posts

All I have to say to Dak is go get your money lil duffle bag boy...

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