The Full Scope Of Dak’s Leverage

visionary said:

He’s greedy
He’ll hold out for the last dime even if it hurts the team


but what a great “leader”

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He saw what zeke done and he is doing it blame JJ

I don't know I if I have ever seen such a sure statement like, "Dak literally has ALL the leverage."

Contain so many "IFs" lol

How do you make a claim, that is stated as fact... and back it up with if...if...if...if... ?

Qcard said:

This reasoning is why Stephen A Smith calls Cowboy fans the dumbest ever....

We are living in a new NFL Era bro!!

Dak having success in any city would trend!!

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Endorsement deals don't seem to be as lucrative as the fans imagine when you look at the reported numbers......

https://opendorse.com/blog/top-10-most-lucrative-nfl-endorsement-deals/

Our chance of wining a SB with Tom Brady even at his age is greater than with Dak

zerofill said:

I don't know I if I have ever seen such a sure statement like, "Dak literally has ALL the leverage."

Contain so many "IFs" lol

How do you make a claim, that is stated as fact... and back it up with if...if...if...if... ?

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Because he is breaking down every possible scenario and highlighting how they will all go in a way that is good for Dak. You franchise him twice... Dak blows the QB market away in 2 years and Dallas has no QB. You cant trade him because he has veto power, you cant really draft a replacement because you draft too late and even still that does not give leverage that just means he defaults to the franchise for 2 years and resets the market. So basically you are left with one of 3 options: let him walk either now or in 2 years and have no QB, sign him to a short term deal (4yrs) at around 37m per, sign him to a 6-7 year deal worth around 41-42m per on average (which would still be seen as cheap in 3 years tbh). None of those are great options, and the first is basically asking to be in rebuild mode for at least 2 or 3 years (if they get lucky and find the right QB).

Yea!!!
Another Dak thread!!!!


If we can have 130 of them, why not 131!!!

ABQCOWBOY said:

LOL..... at the idea that SAS looks at anybody and thinks "dumbest ever" is actually pretty funny.

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Yeah ..I know, you wouldn't give SAS $10M per year either

How is the weather in your universe... I remember our last conversation....the chance that Dak's leverage could get better lol

Killerinstinct said:

Sure, I am dumb.
no I have never heard of the internet
All teams are the same profile
That is why Aikman and Romo are raking in the broadcast booth. Wouldn't have anything to do with the high profile jobs they previously held.

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The only common thing between Troy and Tony is both are very smart and marketable.

If you think there is any similarity in their QB skill set, success or team success....

Then you are exactly as SAS says....dummy

The full scope of his leverage begins with the track record of who his agent is negotiating against. They have the rep of being poor negotiators and have done nothing to change that. They also like to use the media, a truly terrible idea.

Qcard said:

The only common thing between Troy and Tony is both are very smart and marketable.

If you think there is any similarity in their QB skill set, success or team success....

Then you are exactly as SAS says....dummy

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interesting take.

Qcard said:

The only common thing between Troy and Tony is both are very smart and marketable.

If you think there is any similarity in their QB skill set, success or team success....

Then you are exactly as SAS says....dummy

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non sequitur

jaythecowboy said:

Oh I see. That is an educated guess on my part since Dak has come out himself and said he doesn't expect to be the highest paid player and his later comments about there being more to contracts than the AAV. People are saying Dak wants to be the highest paid player when the Cowboys haven't even reached Wentz and Goff's number. Now I am wondering about the terms of whatever 7-year deal the Cowboys offered.

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Well, three things here. As I mentioned before, there is no proof that the Cowboys have not offered him something comparable because honestly, if they were only off by a few thousand bucks, this would be done. Two, the Wentz deal is not really a new contract, it's actually an extension so the numbers in that contract are not really like the numbers in the Dak negotiation. They have salary from the previous deal that elevates the average and total contract value, on it's face, that has already been accounted for against the cap. So it's easier for Philly to do that deal. Much harder for the Cowboys because Dak's rookie deal is basically up, nothing extra to work with. Three, the Goff contract is just a bad contract. I mean, I understand the thought process that says, those guys got paid, pay Dak. But I just can't agree to signing what I know to be a bad deal financially.

The reality is that because both those guys were first round picks, they made more money and they had more to work with contractually. That's not necessarily right but it's also not the fault of the Cowboys. That's just how I see it.

Killerinstinct said:

Dak only has leverage if Jerry allows it. Being the QB for the Cowboys is the most high profile position in sports. It's not the same in Jacksonville or Indy.

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The extra of being a Cowboy is only leverage if you show you're willing to use it.

He should be talking to the free agent QBs about those marketing opportunities and the wonders of our offensive personnel. Brady. Brees. Rivers. Tannehill. Didn't draft a QB last year either.

Same thing with Zeke last year. Being the RB for the Cowboys is another high profile, high production opportunity. A great opportunity for a RB to play for a year on a "prove it to the league and cash in deal". Instead we handed it to McFadden and the Underwear Thief in 2015, and didn't shop last year when Zeke held out. Morris. Please.

Put the Transition Tag on Dak and let the market set his value.

It isn't going to be $40 million.

CATCH17 said:

People are terrified for some reason not to sign him lol.. What's the worst that could happen? We have no playoff success?

Odds are we are throwing that out the window anyways once he signs.

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Yeah I don't get it. If I'm the owner I have no problem letting him walk and draft a rookie QB. Sign the players we need from UFA and move on. Like you said, what's the worst that can happen? The Cowboys have been crap for the better part of two decades now. Since 1996 there's been what, 3 seasons we were in the conversation for a championship? Considering the salary cap this QB hasn't done anything that would make me devote that much money towards it.

Qcard said:

Yeah ..I know, you wouldn't give SAS $10M per year either

How is the weather in your universe... I remember our last conversation....the chance that Dak's leverage could get better lol

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You know, I don't think SAS is dumb, per say. I do think he says dumb things a lot of times and specifically to sow discord. And if you asked him that, he would probably admit to it because he has no problem admitting the fact that he does not like the Cowboys, fan base in particular.

Today started overcast but it's getting better. Sun is out, it's pretty warm, turned into a nice day here. Thanks for asking.

Dak's leverage here is in the next contract IMO. I don't know if you remember this but I was always a big advocate of Dak signing a reasonable, short term deal. I thought his true leverage was to wait and come back to the well after the CBA was signed and Mahomes got his new deal. That's when he would really have the most leverage. If he waited, he could end up winning a conference, he might be able to win a championship, he would hopefully improve, he would still be young enough to sign a longer term deal and see another, and the money would certainly be better plus, the QB Class in FA and in the Draft would likely not be nearly as good. This is a very odd year in the NFL. You have a comparatively strong pool of potential QBs available to teams. Heck, without even getting into a comparison between a QB like Stafford and Dak, talent wise, just look at the numbers of bringing in a guy like Stafford and just letting Dak sit and wait. Stafford is scheduled to make 8 mil base salary next year. 21 mil if you don't restructure his signing bonus to spread it out, 33 mil in 21 and then back to 26 in 22. That guy is a possibility for what would probably be a reasonable trade scenario, just to take the cap load off the Lions and if they decide to Draft another QB, they are there. Hell, you throw in Dak as a trade option and they might give us picks back. Think about that now, regardless of if you think Stafford is better or if you believe Dak is the better QB, you can't get past the financials of a potential deal like that, if you are negotiating a new deal. This is a bad year for Dak to try and demand a record deal IMO. He's better off signing a short term, reasonable deal and then going back to the well in a few, IMO.

zerofill said:

I don't know I if I have ever seen such a sure statement like, "Dak literally has ALL the leverage."

Contain so many "IFs" lol

How do you make a claim, that is stated as fact... and back it up with if...if...if...if... ?

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Lol he’s just going through the scenarios man,

If the cowboys do this Dak can do that and etc. At the end of the day he holds the leverage as the roster is currently constructed.

They allegedly offered Dak 33 million, so apparently they'd like to have him back. But if he continues to play hard to get they just might lose interest. Quit acting like a stuck up POS Dak.

Philmonroe said:

Yep. Jerry and most of these owners don't have the guts to put it nicely to treat QB like any other position and let them go when they know they asking for too much and or aren't as good as the money they are asking for.

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Right on queue with the hate.

Right now if Dak were a unrestricted FA there isnt a team in the league that would pay him 30 mil. The bottom feeders like the Bengals, Dolphins are going to get a very good rookie QB on the cheap for 4 years. If the Cowboys tag Dak and he holds out they play Cooper Rush one season and end up drafting Trevor Lawrence. That's winning situation Dallas. Sometimes sacrifices have to be made for the good of the organization. I like the way Joey says worst case scenario Dak gets tagged for 2 years. THAT S NOT TRUE! The worst case scenario for Dak would be he tests the open market and doesnt get any offers over 23 mil.

Or by some miracle Tua falls to the Cowboys and they pick him then Dak will only make what the franchise tag is this year at 27 mil I believe. And if Tua beats him out than he is screwed. I know Tua is not making it to us though so it is basically moot but you never know.