Twitter: Top 5 QB's in Cowboys history according to Brandt, Sham, Laufenberg, etc

starfan1 · Feb 20, 2020

blueblood70 said:
no others do *** do you

w t f DO YOU care who we want call great or not..? when the hate comes down and Romo fans ARE CHALLENGED TRYING TO SHAME US OR CONVINCE US TO CHANGE OUR MINDS, WE ARE ALLOWED TO RESPOND IN KIND..

ITS ROMO HATERS THAT ARE SENSITIVE..

I don’t care so we can get that clear now. I find it laughable the extent some of you Romo over the top guys will go in an effort to make your point

if you think he was great that’s wonderful but you are the one getting all sensitive typing in caps it’s hilarious

gimmesix · Feb 20, 2020

jnday said:
With the current QB friendly rules, Roger, Don, And even Troy would be unbelievable with the numbers that they would put up. Every rule passed in the last decade has been made to make the passing game easier which leads to inflated numbers and it makes it impossible to compare modern QBs with the QBs of the past.

I think that's fair. Just as I think it's fair to say they likely would not have won with the coaches and teams we've had since the mid-1990s.

We can't accurately compare QBs, but we can judge the talent and coaching respective to their eras. Staubach and Aikman were blessed to be on some really good football teams with really good coaching. Even White benefited from those things when he first took over from Staubach, but the team was aging and couldn't make it back over the hump before the talent ran dry.

Irvin88_4life · Feb 20, 2020

gimmesix said:
I think that's fair. Just as I think it's fair to say they likely would not have won with the coaches and teams we've had since the mid-1990s.

We can't accurately compare QBs, but we can judge the talent and coaching respective to their eras. Staubach and Aikman were blessed to be on some really good football teams with really good coaching. Even White benefited from those things when he first took over from Staubach, but the team was aging and couldn't make it back over the hump before the talent ran dry.

I disagree with some of the things you said. I 100 percent believe that Staubach could have done better with the teams that Romo had as he was known to comeback.

Playoff game against Seattle that Romo fumbled game winning field goal........ Staubach wins

Playoff game against the giants where Romo threw a pick....... Staubach wins

Playoff game against the packers with the Dez catch/no catch....... Staubach wins

I think Aikman would have won those games too.

Just for comparison I believe Staubach and Aikman win the playoff game against the packers that Dak lost as well including the Rams game.

garyo1954 · Feb 20, 2020

Irvin88_4life said:
I disagree with some of the things you said. I 100 percent believe that Staubach could have done better with the teams that Romo had as he was known to comeback.

Playoff game against Seattle that Romo fumbled game winning field goal........ Staubach wins

Playoff game against the giants where Romo threw a pick....... Staubach wins

Playoff game against the packers with the Dez catch/no catch....... Staubach wins

I think Aikman would have won those games too.

Just for comparison I believe Staubach and Aikman win the playoff game against the packers that Dak lost as well including the Rams game.

Good point. This might be like pouring a garbage can of rattlesnakes in the middle of the floor, but there is a degree of talent between the top two and the other 3 on the list.

As far as the increased passing and better protections rules, Dak has already completed more passes than Don did in his career. Barring a holdout he should pass Don in pass attempts.

Super_Kazuya · Feb 20, 2020

Irvin88_4life said:
I disagree with some of the things you said. I 100 percent believe that Staubach could have done better with the teams that Romo had as he was known to comeback.

Playoff game against Seattle that Romo fumbled game winning field goal........ Staubach wins

Playoff game against the giants where Romo threw a pick....... Staubach wins

Playoff game against the packers with the Dez catch/no catch....... Staubach wins

I think Aikman would have won those games too.

Just for comparison I believe Staubach and Aikman win the playoff game against the packers that Dak lost as well including the Rams game.

Staubach is “known to comeback”... well gee whiz Boomer, guess who had twice as many comebacks as old Roger Dodger himself?
Just when I think this troll can’t make himself look any more foolish, he strikes back with another drunken post.

Irvin88_4life · Feb 20, 2020

garyo1954 said:
Good point. This might be like pouring a garbage can of rattlesnakes in the middle of the floor, but there is a degree of talent between the top two and the other 3 on the list.

As far as the increased passing and better protections rules, Dak has already completed more passes than Don did in his career. Barring a holdout he should pass Don in pass attempts.

Correct but I'm not sure anybody would say that Dak is better than Don Meredith. I'm a huge Dak supporter, as you know Haha, and I wouldn't say that.

I completely agree with you about Staubach and Aikman....... than the other 3 to 5 come way after no matter what order they are listed.

DFWJC · Feb 20, 2020

Irvin88_4life said:
I disagree with some of the things you said. I 100 percent believe that Staubach could have done better with the teams that Romo had as he was known to comeback.

Playoff game against Seattle that Romo fumbled game winning field goal........ Staubach wins

Playoff game against the giants where Romo threw a pick....... Staubach wins

Playoff game against the packers with the Dez catch/no catch....... Staubach wins

I think Aikman would have won those games too.

Just for comparison I believe Staubach and Aikman win the playoff game against the packers that Dak lost as well including the Rams game.

I think Roger and Troy were better too.
But your three examples are terrible.

As a QB, Romo DID do his job in the Seattle game. The fumble was due to the freak situation that he was playing special teams. He shouldn't have been in and Roger wouldnt either
And in the Giants game.....He DID throw what should've been the game winning pass. Perfect TD pass to Crayton, who broke his route. You know that. I know you do.. So you're actually being dishonest which I assumed was beneath you. The final semi hail mary pass with time up should not have even been necessary
And then Green Bay game...where he had no incomplete passes the whole 2nd half other than the Dez controversy. And one of the highest QB rating in NFL history in a losing cause...you cant possibly put-that on Romo.

Zero for 3

GMO415 · Feb 20, 2020

CouchCoach said:
LMAO, why have 5? So they can get a Romo v Prescott thing going? They can stop at 3 and those are the 3, Meredith had to deal with an expansion franchise in the good old days when they sucked for 3-5 years.

Skillit · Feb 21, 2020

CATCH17 said:
Romo was everything to those teams outside of 07 and 14.

Plus.. Romo just has more skill then Dak will ever have.

Dak is going to play a conservative brand of football and hope the team around him elevates the Cowboys to a victory.

Romo was a 1 man army for most of his career.

I was hot and cold on Romo over the years.....but I can’t recall how many times I thought he’d made the comeback—-got the TD /FG with less than 2 mins for the other team.....and they score in :45 seconds/we lose.

Irvin88_4life · Feb 21, 2020

DFWJC said:
I think Roger and Troy were better too.
But your three examples are terrible.

As a QB, Romo DID do his job in the Seattle game. The fumble was due to the freak situation that he was playing special teams. He shouldn't have been in and Roger wouldnt either

And in the Giants game.....He DID throw what should've been the game winning pass. Perfect TD pass to Crayton, who broke his route. You know that. I know you do.. So you're actually being dishonest which I assumed was beneath you. The final semi hail mary pass with time up should not have even been necessary

And then Green Bay game...where he had no incomplete passes the whole 2nd half other than the Dez controversy. And one of the highest QB rating in NFL history in a losing cause...you cant possibly put-that on Romo.

Zero for 3

All I see is excuses.

I agree Romo shouldn't have been on special teams but he was and fumbled the ball on which would have been a game winning field goal. Nobody else fumbled it, it wasn't a terrible snap, nobody bumped him or touch the ball. He fumbled, game over.

He didn't throw the game winner cause he lost against the giants. You can't speculate that it would have been completed or anything else. Game is more than just 1 or two throws.

Against the packers was a terrible decision to throw a jump ball to Dez on 4th and short with a deep pass down the sideline. Was better either to run it or take the check down with Witten or go to Beasley to pick up the first plus run clock and get a new set of downs. Not a bad decision if 1st, 2nd or 3rd down but terrible on 4th down when you had guys open.

Roger would have scored the TD against Seattle and not needed a FG on the 5 yard line to win it.

I scored it 3-0 me

Super_Kazuya · Feb 21, 2020

Irvin88_4life said:
Roger would have scored the TD against Seattle and not needed a FG on the 5 yard line to win it.

Sure he would have, Boomer. Because you say so. You really need to take those little pills that the nurse brings by every night. They’re important.

SultanOfSix · Feb 21, 2020

I disagree. Romo should be three on that list below Roger and Aikman.

Romo is statistically the best Cowboys QB. He should be on a top 5 list. All of the other QBs, especially Roger and Aikman, had better teams, coaching, and organizational management, in general. Romo had Phillips and "The Politician" for most of his coaching career.

Aviano90 · Feb 21, 2020

Super_Kazuya said:
Sure he would have, Boomer. Because you say so. You really need to take those little pills that the nurse brings by every night. They’re important.

Does “because you say so” also apply to many claims people make about Romo and how losses would turn into wins if only he was playing, or does it only apply to scenarios that aren’t favorable to Romo?

Brax · Feb 21, 2020

The Fonz said:
5. Dak Prescott??? they gotta be kidding?

This is how the media suck up to players, a 4 year guy who has flopped 2 years is in the top 5, Morton took them to a super bowl and isn't on the list. The love Dak gets after 4 average years is just crazy.

Established1971 · Feb 21, 2020

CanadianCowboysFan said:
choking three straight NFC Championships?

yeah Romo and Dak did so much better in NFC Champ..oh wait, never mind

OmerV · Feb 21, 2020

$2.75 billion/year, and then the QB can take $2 billion of that and pay off the players on the opposing teams to throw the games.

percyhoward · Feb 21, 2020

Top 3 are Staubach, Aikman, and Romo.

It gets interesting with the next 3.

DFWJC · Feb 21, 2020

Irvin88_4life said:
All I see is excuses.

I agree Romo shouldn't have been on special teams but he was and fumbled the ball on which would have been a game winning field goal. Nobody else fumbled it, it wasn't a terrible snap, nobody bumped him or touch the ball. He fumbled, game over.

He didn't throw the game winner cause he lost against the giants. You can't speculate that it would have been completed or anything else. Game is more than just 1 or two throws.

Against the packers was a terrible decision to throw a jump ball to Dez on 4th and short with a deep pass down the sideline. Was better either to run it or take the check down with Witten or go to Beasley to pick up the first plus run clock and get a new set of downs. Not a bad decision if 1st, 2nd or 3rd down but terrible on 4th down when you had guys open.

Roger would have scored the TD against Seattle and not needed a FG on the 5 yard line to win it.

I scored it 3-0 me

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BigCatMonaco · Feb 21, 2020

Irvin88_4life said:
6 games with 2 wins........... yep surely that's way better than White that made multiple NFC championship

Oh you mean what the team did, making those championship games.

Or am I mis-remembering ? Was it actually 53 Danny Whites out there?

BigCatMonaco · Feb 21, 2020

Irvin88_4life said:
6 games with 2 wins........... yep surely that's way better than White that made multiple NFC championship

Do you even know what whites playoff win % is?

here’s how it stacks up if we apply his winning percentage in the postseason to romos playoff totals.

White would’ve won 3 games instead of 2 at his win %.

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