Video: Dak should take less. Skip and Emmitt are right

cern · Feb 21, 2020

Aviano90 said:
yeah, it's the dishonesty of the posters when debating that is seemingly increasing. I've started to do the same thing to posters who do that.

Watergate gave us specificity and to the best of my recollection. roger Clemens gave us misunderstood. or misremembered.

Hadenough · Feb 21, 2020

DeathMonkey said:
I think most of us want them to draft a QB to develop. Maybe we will now that Garrett and company are out. MM is a QB kinda guy, so it's likely. But it depends on Jerry and what they think they need...but they should ALWAYS be looking for QB's unless we end up in a situation like a Montana/Young or Favre/Rodgers. You should always be grooming a guy that is hungry for the job and has talent....no more crap backups please.

I totally agree! I'm kinda tired of the Cooper Rush Saga. The Cowboys teased us drafting Mike White but he wasn't any good.

KJJ · Feb 21, 2020

kskboys said:
Spin? How in the world did you come to that conclusion. Those are the figures.

Seriously, dude, don't let your agenda color the facts. There was absolutely no spinning here done, none at all, just simple factual amounts. If the facts don't agree w/ your thinking, might be time to adjust your thinking.

In 05, Brady took 10 mil/season. Payton was already making more. Brady was established and had already won 3 super bowls.

Have you ever noticed that when someone accuses you of something(Spinning), it is often the case that they themselves are guilty of the accusation?

You’re the one with the agenda I posted a link that supports me and proves you wrong! You claimed Brady has been taking discounts from the beginning which is not true. Bayless said Dak should take a discount like Brady has been doing but Brady didn’t take a discount on his first contract extension. The link I posted backs it up. Brady signed his first extension in 2002 . The article stated that Brady couldn’t command top contracts until 2005 which was the year he signed his second extension. He collected a lot of money before he started taking discounts. If you believe his first extension was discounted provide a link!

KJJ · Feb 21, 2020

nightrain said:
Just out of curiosity, and not really pertaining to the original subject matter, what is the number that stands between being able to and not being able to afford a discount?

All I can tell you is that if you’ve been collecting NFL contracts and endorsements for the past 20 years and have a rich wife who makes 30 million a year you’re in a position to take a discount. Tom Brady is so loaded he has an exotic car collection including a $3 million Bugatti so the discounts haven’t hurt him.

kskboys · Feb 21, 2020

KJJ said:
You’re the one with the agenda I posted a link that supports me and proves you wrong! You claimed Brady has been taking discounts from the beginning which is not true. Bayless said Dak should take a discount like Brady has been doing but Brady didn’t take a discount on his first contract extension. The link I posted backs it up. Brady signed his first extension in 2002 . The article stated that Brady couldn’t command top contracts until 2005 which was the year he signed his second extension. He collected a lot of money before he started taking discounts. If you believe his first extension was discounted provide a link!

You know, I've noticed that those who ask for a link are generally not all that bright.

Look it up yourself. Are you lazy? I've already proven that you were incorrect, but your answer is "Nuh uh".

Hey, facts aren't facts, right? Spin away, baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KJJ · Feb 21, 2020

kskboys said:
You know, I've noticed that those who ask for a link are generally not all that bright.

Look it up yourself. Are you lazy? I've already proven that you were incorrect, but your answer is "Nuh uh".

Hey, facts aren't facts, right? Spin away, baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I’ve noticed that those who never provide links when asked, either don’t know how to post a link or can’t find one to support their claims. My pilot light is a lot brighter than yours buddy. Yours appears to be flickering and is just about out. All you’ve proved is that you can’t find anything to support your claim. All you provide is hot air! Now that you’ve been dusted off go waste someone else’s time.

Hook'em#11 · Feb 21, 2020

Cowboysheelsreds053 said:
Love Shannon he makes the show.

I guess. Course, I don't watch it all that much.

TwoDeep3 · Feb 21, 2020

Frozen700 said:
Skip Bayless makes some real valid points. Say what you want about the guy. He's killing Sharpe in this argument.

#DontpayDak

I think you should walk into your workplace on Monday and tell your boss you wish to take 20% less than what you currently make in salary.

Then come back and do a set of posts revealing how that works out for the better as you go forward. I'd suggest you can make the serial pay per view, but do not want to offend your altruistic sensibilities.

Cmac · Feb 21, 2020

Forget Skip, but Emmitt.....remember, you never talk about another Player's pockets, especially if its to lower the value. Just not a good look even though you're HOF.

dragon_mikal · Feb 21, 2020

Blackrain said:
Dak has earned the money and has every right to take it . What it comes down to is by giving the team a discount so they can acquire more talent and have a better chance of winning a championship do you really serve yourself better in the long run .

Brady thought so he wanted to win more SBs than any other QB and he did it and Im betting after a long successful career he probably has enough money to be comfortable .
But what do the SBs really do for him after football . Would the extra 5 to 10 million a year for ten yrs be more beneficial to him , Couple more houses boat as big as Jerrys or what ever obviously not in his mind .

Brady wanted the distinction of doing what nobody else had done and he got it . Not every player rates their success on championships some look at the money first and if they get the championship all the better .

Depends on the player some look at it as employment and get there satisfaction from making the most they can and providing for their family in the best way possible . We as fans want championships players families want lifetime security .

To give a discount or not is a decision Dak has to make but there is no wrong answer it just depends on what is your priority

Dak Prescott hasn’t earned a damn thing.

gjkoeppen · Feb 21, 2020

Cowboy Lover said:
Yep...how dare what could be a top 5 player in the HISTORY of the game, asked for top dollar of his time. Then tell an average QB of the times (who has won nothing) to take average money, and help keep a good team around him (that will help him succeed). What a moron.

Here's the problem with your little rant. When Emmitt held out it was in his 4th season and at that time he was a long way from becoming the all time rushing leader. Now he did become that and the Cowboys I'm was hoping for that just like I'm sure the Cowboys hope Prescott becomes one of the top 3 or 5 QB consistantly every season. Prescott is there yet just like Emmitt wasn't there yet when he held out and became the highest paid RB in the league.
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SteveTheCowboy · Feb 23, 2020

gjkoeppen said:
Here's the problem with your little rant. When Emmitt held out it was in his 4th season and at that time he was a long way from becoming the all time rushing leader. Now he did become that and the Cowboys I'm was hoping for that just like I'm sure the Cowboys hope Prescott becomes one of the top 3 or 5 QB consistantly every season. Prescott is there yet just like Emmitt wasn't there yet when he held out and became the highest paid RB in the league.
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Okay fine. HE wasn't the best ever YET. Was he the best of his day YET? Had he won anything YET? Did he put games on his shoulders YET?

I;d say yes to all of that. And no for Dak. Yet.

SteveTheCowboy · Feb 23, 2020

kskboys said:
You know, I've noticed that those who ask for a link are generally not all that bright.

Look it up yourself. Are you lazy? I've already proven that you were incorrect, but your answer is "Nuh uh".

Hey, facts aren't facts, right? Spin away, baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Typically, if you make a statement, it's YOUR job to post your sources. You said it you back it up with the facts. You make other people go prove your own point? And then call them dim? That's rich.

Post your source(s) so we all get on the same page together. Don't make someone else search or guess where you got your information from. Not very bright.

kskboys · Feb 23, 2020

Cowboy Lover said:
Typically, if you make a statement, it's YOUR job to post your sources. You said it you back it up with the facts. You make other people go prove your own point? And then call them dim? That's rich.

Post your source(s) so we all get on the same page together. Don't make someone else search or guess where you got your information from. Not very bright.

You are so ignorant you weren't even smart enough to learn the background before inserting your foot. I informed where it came from. Your complete and utter nonsensical brain forms your subnormal thought pattern. You're simply a slug, prolly a pothead. Stay out of crapp that doesn't concern you.

gjkoeppen · Feb 23, 2020

Cowboy Lover said:
Okay fine. HE wasn't the best ever YET. Was he the best of his day YET? Had he won anything YET? Did he put games on his shoulders YET?

I;d say yes to all of that. And no for Dak. Yet.

At the time Emmitt had just led the league in rushing and Prescott didn't end up leading the league in passing last season but he did until week 16. As great as I think Emmitt was, he did something that many really dislike. He held out while still under contract not living up to the contract that he had already signed, and then holding out until he was the highest paid RB ever yet at the time wasn't anywhere close to being the all time leading RB. As it turned out he did get there, but he hadn't at the time he signed that contract. With Prescott leading the league in passing for most of the year and coupled with the Cowboys scoring 30 or more points in 9 of 16 games it's safe to say that he did a good job carrying the team in those games.
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RonnieT24 · Feb 26, 2020

gjkoeppen said:
At the time Emmitt had just led the league in rushing and Prescott didn't end up leading the league in passing last season but he did until week 16. As great as I think Emmitt was, he did something that many really dislike. He held out while still under contract not living up to the contract that he had already signed, and then holding out until he was the highest paid RB ever yet at the time wasn't anywhere close to being the all time leading RB. As it turned out he did get there, but he hadn't at the time he signed that contract. With Prescott leading the league in passing for most of the year and coupled with the Cowboys scoring 30 or more points in 9 of 16 games it's safe to say that he did a good job carrying the team in those games.
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You do know that this is incorrect right? Emmitt's rookie contract had ended when he "held out." So in fact it was not a holdout it was a contract negotiation. The 4 year rookie contract did not become the norm until the CBA went into effect in 1994 and the 5th year option didn't show up until I wanna say mid 2000's. So at the time Emmitt was not under contract to the Cowboys anymore and was free to do what he wanted in terms of negotiating. He would have been stupid to play without a contract because if he got hurt the team owed him nothing. The Cowboys were stupid to play hardball with the guy who was the engine that made the team go but at least they learned from that and never did so again.

eromeopolk · Feb 26, 2020

Frozen700 said:
Skip Bayless makes some real valid points. Say what you want about the guy. He's killing Sharpe in this argument.

#DontpayDak

Jerry Jones did nothing to take advantage of Dak 4 year discount. In fact he did more to line his billion dollar pocket (no impact free agents, no no.1 WR, no. no.1 TE, let 6 defensive starters go from 2016 team). So go get your money Lil Duffle bag boy!

CowboyFanInLexKy · Feb 26, 2020

DeathMonkey said:
And we still don't know for sure the bone of contention between the two camps. Might not be the salary at all, but guaranteed money, duration of contract, etc.

Should Dak get top money? Heck no. But these guys are saying he should take a discount when they don't know what he's for sure asking for. The 33 million he turned down might have been for other reasons. We just don't know.

Now if it does come out for sure that he's asking for top money, then yeah, he's hurting the team for his own gain....but he may just be doing it for security. Maybe he wants a no trade clause. Maybe he wants a 5 or 6 year and they won't go that far.

The understanding I had (and I can be totally wrong in this) is the Cowboys want to extend him to 5 years and Dak only wants to do a 3 year contract so he can see what top pay is at that time... And the guarantee money is off too (again from the understanding I have).

mattjames2010 · Feb 26, 2020

eromeopolk said:
Jerry Jones did nothing to take advantage of Dak 4 year discount. In fact he did more to line his billion dollar pocket (no impact free agents, no no.1 WR, no. no.1 TE, let 6 defensive starters go from 2016 team). So go get your money Lil Duffle bag boy!

Jones did everything possible to get the most out of Dak. You know, like trade away a first for Cooper mid-season.

Starforever · Feb 26, 2020

StuckMojo said:
Emmitt had proved he deserved top pay

Was that the only name you saw?
What about the others?

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