News: PFT: Dak Prescott should not "take less"

CATCH17 · Feb 21, 2020

I just can’t believe that the NFL has decided that the next QB up to get paid will get the most money or near it..

If you’re good enough to be an NFL starter and you stay with your current team then you get top tier money.

It’s ridiculous and it hurts the team.m

Especially a team like us who has no playoff success and we are matching contracts of QBs that had teams that went to Superbowls.

CowboysFaninHouston · Feb 21, 2020

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Dak Prescott should not "take less" - ProFootballTalk

For much of the past year, quarterback Dak Prescott has refused to bow to a campaign by the Cowboys to get him to take less. It has culminated most recently in Hall of Fame running back Emmitt Smith -- who held out for two regular-season games in order to get paid in 1993 -- joining [more]

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are we surprised of all the Dak talk, after all we are the cowboys. but at this point, do the cowboys have many other options. We are not in the middle of rebuilding, specially that we have handed out several large contracts to OL, DE, RB and probably Cooper soon. so what are our options? draft? that's a gamble. there are no sure bets in this year's draft like a Manning, Luck. Burrow is pretty sure bet, although full analysis hasn't been done on him. any other QB worth a risk, would require move up in the draft and requires draft capital that we shouldn't throw away to gamble. no other QB in the market is worth the money nor guarantee us anything in the next couple of years.

with that said, stories/rumors are over the years of the contract where the cowboys want more years and Dak wants essentially a 3 year deal. IMO, that may not be a bad thing, perhaps it will give us negotiation power over the money. less year, take a little less. more years, we will give you more (since it would give us cap flexibility). but if we are serious about making a run over the next couple of years, then Dak is the best option.

CowboysFaninHouston · Feb 21, 2020

CATCH17 said:
I just can’t believe that the NFL has decided that the next QB up to get paid will get the most money or near it..

If you’re good enough to be an NFL starter and you stay with your current team then you get top tier money.

It’s ridiculous and it hurts the team.m

Especially a team like us who has no playoff success and we are matching contracts of QBs that had teams that went to Superbowls.

its the way the NFL and cap supposed to work, which has put a lot of pressure and onus on teams to draft well and make a run in the first 4 or 5 years of their rookie contracts for players in key positions. that's why we are in a bit of a hole, given our past two drafts have amounted to craap. we have nothing to show for it and its cornered us.

Sydla · Feb 21, 2020

AbeBeta said:
I'm getting tired of people not wanting to pay market value and pushing BS "he gets endorsements!" arguments.

Like freaking Chunky Soup money should make you agree to less money.

Wentz signed for $32MM AAV a year ago. Wilson signed for $35MM AAV less than a year ago.

You can argue he's better than Wentz but he's not better than Wilson. So there's the market.

OmerV · Feb 21, 2020

CowboysFaninHouston said:
its the way the NFL and cap supposed to work, which has put a lot of pressure and onus on teams to draft well and make a run in the first 4 or 5 years of their rookie contracts for players in key positions. that's why we are in a bit of a hole, given our past two drafts have amounted to craap. we have nothing to show for it and its cornered us.

2018 wasn't a crap draft. LVE was a solid first rounder (hopefully his neck injury doesn't cut his career short, Conner Williams may not be the starter that we hoped for, but he will at least be a quality depth player who can stand in when needed, Gallup was a big plus with the 3rd rounder, and Schultz and Wilson at least fill a role. Not a home run, but a double at a minimum, with the pontential to stretch into a triple if LVE fully recovers and lives up to his potential.

As for last year, it doesn't look great, but it's still too early for a definitive judgement. Pollard was a nice get in the 3rd, and McGovern and Wilson are still unknown. Hill is too for that matter, although admittedly I'm skeptical at this point.

OmerV · Feb 21, 2020

Sydla said:
Wentz signed for $32MM AAV a year ago. Wilson signed for $35MM AAV less than a year ago.

You can argue he's better than Wentz but he's not better than Wilson. So there's the market.

The market is whatever a team is willing to pay, and it doesn't stay stagnant from the previous year, but sure, that's the ball park range that seems to make sense.

Sydla · Feb 21, 2020

OmerV said:
The market is whatever a team is willing to pay, and it doesn't stay stagnant from the previous year, but sure, that's the ball park range that seems to make sense.

Semantics. The "market" is often dictated by previous contracts. That's how it has always worked.

OmerV · Feb 21, 2020

Sydla said:
Semantics. The "market" is often dictated by previous contracts. That's how it has always worked.

Buyers hope to limit what they have to pay to no more than previous contracts called for, but clearly contracts don't just freeze in time - they keep going up. It still comes down to what a team is willing to pay.

Sydla · Feb 21, 2020

OmerV said:
Buyers hope to limit what they have to pay to no more than previous contracts called for, but clearly contracts don't just freeze in time - they keep going up. It still comes down to what a team is willing to pay.

Contracts aren't stagnant but in short windows, just because guys come to FA doesn't mean their contracts have to go up and set new standards. Wentz signed his deal AFTER Wilson, for example. Wilson did not set a new standard that Wentz then took advantage of as the next. Goff signed after Wilson as well and he got less than Wilson on a AAV average as well.

If Dak wants more than Wilson and the Cowboys aren't willing to do that, I agree with the Cowboys. If the Cowboys are low balling him trying to pay him was less than what Wentz/Wilson got, for example, then the Cowboys need to wake up to a bit of reality.

OmerV · Feb 21, 2020

Sydla said:
Contracts aren't stagnant but in short windows, just because guys come to FA doesn't mean their contracts have to go up and set new standards. Wentz signed his deal AFTER Wilson, for example. Wilson did not set a new standard that Wentz then took advantage of as the next. Goff signed after Wilson as well and he got less than Wilson on a AAV average as well.

If Dak wants more than Wilson and the Cowboys aren't willing to do that, I agree with the Cowboys. If the Cowboys are low balling him trying to pay him was less than what Wentz/Wilson got, for example, then the Cowboys need to wake up to a bit of reality.

No, it doesn't mean contracts have to go up, nor does it mean they have to stay stagnant or go down. Past contracts are merely a guideline, but it still comes down to what a team is willing to pay.

glimmerman · Feb 21, 2020

Sydla said:
Wentz signed for $32MM AAV a year ago. Wilson signed for $35MM AAV less than a year ago.

You can argue he's better than Wentz but he's not better than Wilson. So there's the market.

I see a 34 or 35 million. A few dollars more than Wilson at the most. If he indeed turned away 33 million then they must be close.

bsbellomy · Feb 21, 2020

daboyzruleperiod said:
Wonder how many of those saying Dak should take less would be ok with someone telling them they should take less at their job because they're just not good enough and should test the market.

Yes apply your logic to a guy asking for 40M per year to a guy making 60k a year. That makes complete sense.

Sydla · Feb 21, 2020

glimmerman said:
I see a 34 or 35 million. A few dollars more than Wilson at the most. If he indeed turned away 33 million then they must be close.

I kind of think if something gets done, that's where it's going to be too.

Wentz got $32MM AAV. Goff then got $33.5MM AAV. So $34MM to $35MM seems the right range.

glimmerman · Feb 21, 2020

Sydla said:
I kind of think if something gets done, that's where it's going to be too.

Wentz got $32MM AAV. Goff then got $33.5MM AAV. So $34MM to $35MM seems the right range.

That’s my thinking on a short term deal. Good for both sides. If he helps lead us to a SB then pay him the big bucks. But if he is seriously asking for 38-40 right now then I would have to let him go.

MrPhil · Feb 21, 2020

CouchCoach said:
Love all the experts on what the man should do with his life. It is his career and he doesn't need advice from people who have nothing vested but the need to comment on this already run into the ground subject.

Do they even realize how lazy and pathetic that are to keep discussing it?

I don't care what they do. Sign him, trade him, let him walk just stop milking the media with this horse****.

I certainly wouldn't tell Dak what to do with his life, that is his business. That said, I don't want to hear about how he cares about winning after signing a mega-contract that will constrain the ability of the team to build around him. At least be honest and say that you care about maximizing your earnings first and foremost.

CouchCoach · Feb 21, 2020

MrPhil said:
I certainly wouldn't tell Dak what to do with his life, that is his business. That said, I don't want to hear about how he cares about winning after signing a mega-contract that will constrain the ability of the team to build around him. At least be honest and say that you care about maximizing your earnings first and foremost.

I agree, he should have never made that comment "everybody can get paid". That's just not the truth. He looks as stupid as Flacco making that comment about not wanting his contract to affect other players, mainly the ones they had to let walk.

Man, if you are going for the money, be a man about it. It is a mercenary league and everyone is in it for the money and there is no need to be ashamed about it or make up BS when he's hardly qualified to manage a cap. And I do not consider him greedy, he's just after what his agent said he's worth. Same as I would be and I love these posters that would take less to take care of other players. What a load.

However, when you do go for the gold, be aware that there is a price to pay for that. Notice how they booed Flacco out of BAL? At 35M, every little mistake gets magnified and we will quickly forget that 4th rounder deal we've been getting. You get big boy money, you better deliver.

morat1959 · Feb 21, 2020

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country said:
I'm getting tired of all of the Dak talk. A part of me is now hoping that Jerry just comes out and let the world know we're moving on without him.

Please let this happen!

blueblood70 · Feb 21, 2020

morat1959 said:
Please let this happen!

doesnt need to happen, its easier looking at it it as Dak wants too much Jerry wont pay it because he also wants short years,,SO Non Exclusive FT he gets maybe 30 on the tag, seeks offers noone bites on but Dak may hold out , We replace Rush with Keenum, Fitz, or Maroitta, then we draft Fromm/Hurts in the 4th..

Dak holds out we are covered, if he doesnt we have better backup and our draft pick starts learning the system and working with this new staff..2021 we trade dak for whatever we can get IE Tag him let him seek deals but make a less then the 2 firsts and get a 1 and 3 for him and let the QB we drafted start and if need be and we choke up 2020 we go after a top 10 QB next draft..

you dont just let a starter WALK FREE..have plan execute it..this staff is supposed to be better right? let them figure out a new process to ease out from Dak and 35mil for above average..build team with the new QB in mind starting this off season.. HAVE A PLAN..

cowboy_ron · Feb 21, 2020

Mahomes who?

Holdout for 100M a year Dak.

leeblair · Feb 21, 2020

I agree; Dak shouldn't take less.
He should hold out until he finds another team who will pay him what he thinks he's worth.
The Cowboys should tag him with the non-exclusive tag and move on with their two number one picks, because they will probably be very good number ones with Dak playing quarterback for that team.

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