The Full Scope Of Dak’s Leverage

ABQCOWBOY said:

Well, I'm a fan and I care what I think. You are laying out what you think it is, not necessarily what the facts really are. Truth is, we don't really know all the moving parts are. You say paying Dak, well, the Cowboys are paying him right now and have been since he's been in the league so that statement "Pay Dak" is obviously true but it's not a revelation. Of course he will get paid but how much, that's what the real question is. You don't know what that number is and neither do I. You speculating on it is fine but it's not a given. You reference Zeke here but the truth is that the team got what they wanted with Zeke and not the other way around so I do hope that it is like Zeke but again, we don't know that.

This is the problem with society today. All too often, they think the people don't matter. Well, hard lessons are learned around that, down through history. I guess it might be time for those kinds of lessons again. It's unfortunate but if the team, as you say, don't care about what the fans think, I guess there is no option.

Bottom line, you don't know anything more then the next guy but hey, neither do I so it's cool.

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Proof said:

gotcha both. He’s not a big time media personality like those guys, but yes he writes for the athletic and USA Today. I’m fairly confident he’s got one with the team, and at worst has a degree of separation via kd Drummond. I’m just saying he’s not an overzealous fan. And that’s not to add credence to his leverage take, just supplying context.

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jaythecowboy said:

Not really. He'll just play under the franchise tag and then get a deal somewhere else the following offseason .

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ABQCOWBOY said:

Because the only hard leverage he really has is to threaten to sit out if he's tagged. So regardless of if you said that or not, the reality is that this is his only real leverage IMO.

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Philmonroe said:

Come on sir smarten up. The poster means leverage he has with this team.

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Verdict said:

While what has happened so far supports your working theory, I wonder if that is reality? The team probably would have increased his salary last year in return for stretching out the cap hit over several years for his upcoming deal.

Unless Dak is planning on making $40m plus, it MAY have been a mistake for him to not to have signed last year. The team would have probably been more inclined to do a shorter extension for Dak then than they are now because another year is in the books.

I don’t have the answers. I am spit balling just like everyone else. I am just not quite sure what Dak plans to do other than break the bank. If he didn’t plan on breaking the bank his waiting made little sense for him.

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jaythecowboy said:

I see the potential threat of going to another team the following year as leverage against the Cowboys. I don't understand how you could not.

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visionary said:

He’s greedy
He’ll hold out for the last dime even if it hurts the team


but what a great “leader”

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ABQCOWBOY said:

In your mind, I'm certain that's exactly how it went but that's not the reality of it. See, here is the problem with speaking to you or anybody with your mind set. You can't take a position that says, yes pay a player but don't do a stupid deal. The deal with Zeke is very team friendly and allows for the team to get out of it in a relatively short period of time. It doesn't break the bank, in terms of guaranteed money and it absolutely is not what Zeke and his representation wanted but sure, believe what you wish. Believe me, my job is definitely not to educate you. Go forward!

The rest of your post is idiotic. You have no idea what I believe or don't believe. This is just your way of trying to defend a indefensible position. It's fine, do whatever you can but it doesn't change the facts. But sure, it's Friday, go ahead and tell your story.

Have a good weekend, I'm off to go snowboard!

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MarcusRock said:

LOL. This is what I get for being nice. If you're going to insert yourself into my discussion only to turn salty when your weaksauce opinions get rightfully slapped around the outfield, perhaps you should stay on the sidelines next time. First you embarrass yourself by stating that Lynch or Cook could have been as successful as Dak with the Cowboys when none of the 32 GMs in the league currently think they're worthy of even being a backup and now you're trying to convince yourself that the team got the better of Zeke in a deal that's the richest for a RB ever and that he got asking out of turn with years left on his rookie deal. You were dead set against him getting a deal, again opining based on your hope that the FO would play hardball with him when I told you then he was going to get a good deal due to his leverage, which you couldn't even admit he had (also due to your deny, deny, deny "feelings"). So of course you have to spin that the FO got the better of the deal to try to save face (this guy disagrees, not that you can prove him wrong anyway). But leverage is leverage and Dak has more than even Zeke did. So guess what's going to happen? Not what you "hope" for, that's what.

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817Gill said:

This isn’t necessarily a thread arguing for or against his signing, just some interesting info on the leverage Dak’s camp holds in this negotiation. I know it’s not some flashy reporter, but it’s all factual well researched info and the meat of the reasons why this deal is moving so slow

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gjkoeppen said:

First name one thread that regardless what the person starts them says it is or isn't about signing Prescott that hasn't quickly turned into that exact thing. Second there is nothing factual about his tweets. It's all speculation and guessing. Third Prescott has already said if he is tagged that he will sit out. Now we don't know for sure if that is his actual stance or what his agent has drilled into him to say as a negotiating tool. There have been players who after they have signed have admitted that most of the pre-signing statements were what their agent had they say.
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gjkoeppen said:

First name one thread that regardless what the person starts them says it is or isn't about signing Prescott that hasn't quickly turned into that exact thing. Second there is nothing factual about his tweets. It's all speculation and guessing. Third Prescott has already said if he is tagged that he will sit out. Now we don't know for sure if that is his actual stance or what his agent has drilled into him to say as a negotiating tool. There have been players who after they have signed have admitted that most of the pre-signing statements were what their agent had they say.
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ABQCOWBOY said:

Apparently so. I don't care if you are nice or not. Respectful, that's important I think but I don't care about nice. One thing though, what you are suggesting is not truthful. It's your opinion and you let me worry about embarrassing myself. You take care of you, clean up your own mess. Your parents should have taught you this but that's your problem. I didn't want the Cowboys to give in to Zeke early and they will regret it eventually but that's my opinion. However, on the basis of the deal itself, it wasn't terrible. The whole spin BS you are throwing out now is not worth the time it took to type out the letters. Whatever dude. Nobody cares.

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CouchCoach said:

The only true leverage Prescott has is one that he knows will backfire if he uses it, sitting out. New HC with a new offense and he's no showing for 26-33M to play football for one year? How many of those targeted consumers with his endorsements are going to relate to that? And to many, being the DC QB is the ultimate dream job. And the reason he has those endorsements to begin with.

There is a fine line between getting paid and greed and I think he crosses that line by no showing. I think he and his agent know it as well and he risks a real public image situation. The QB is that one player that cannot be a no show, it's never happened, agents and teams have never let that happen for a good reason and his agent isn't about to let him be the first to do it.

Prescott is a feel good story and fans love that. Right now we do not know the hold up, only that 40M has been reported several times and been denied by his camp so the benefit of the doubt for the player is there and this owner spent 250M for a boat, think that doesn't enter into the thinking? It is all about the money after all.

However, let him be tagged and the amount is known and there's no more conjecture or speculation. He has no choice but to take it and show up. It would be the single largest public relations blunder in pro sports history. He becomes the bad guy and those sponsors pull those ads and shag butt as fast as they can.

He's the feel good player now, he's likable and has a good story. Think he couldn't become the most despised player in the history of this franchise? He needs to realize just how much good ole boy territory he's in, the owner had death threats on the other side of this 27 years ago and all it takes is one crazy person.

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MarcusRock said:

Disagree. Dak holding out would have little impact on any endorsements. It's normal NFL business. Advertisers don't care about that. If likability was a thing on Madison Avenue, Aaron Rodgers wouldn't be as big an endorser as he is, much less Baker Mayfield. Their semi-hateability is actually a draw. Different times we live in coach. Serving in the military and the appearance of being a "spotless" family man used to be gold in politics. Not so much (if at all) now. Just different times.

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MarcusRock said:

You cared enough to insert yourself into my conversation with others but now don't when your softball pitches were blasted as a result. Okay. So continue to feign incredulousness and then exit thread left through the escape hatch. Lol.

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