Recap: Newton/Holley: Scarred by 10 Years of Bad Coaching

TwentyOne · Feb 23, 2020

Qcard said:
Listen to Nate Newton (3 Time Superbowl Winning Guard) and Jesse Holley (Former Cowboy and Tarheel) @ 34 min mark talk about how we've been scarred by bad coaching over the last 10 years and how it affects our personal opinions as to how we build a Championship team...

#cowboyszone: Hangin' with the Boys: It's Not Marine Biology https://www.dallascowboys.com/audio/hangin-with-the-boys-it-s-not-marine-biology

The only ones i am scrared of are JJ and his son.

Stash · Feb 23, 2020

daboyzruleperiod said:
The Cowboys fanbase is well aware how their favorite team has been scarred by bad coaching. Jerry let it go on far too long.

It's difficult for some people to admit when they're wrong.

Just take a look around this forum.

After ten years, some still can't.

Even after Jerry himself has.

Idgit · Feb 23, 2020

You guys should probably listen to what they actually said. Just a thought.

Miller · Feb 23, 2020

stasheroo said:
Nobody said "completely". But put his career trajectory on a chart and the arrow is pointing down after last year.

I'm sorry if the truth of that hurts you, but it doesn't change the fact that it's true.

For someone who won't "get on the kick Garrett wagon" and "moving on", you sure seem eager to try to defend him.

Not only this but weren’t many in the media claiming he’d be the hottest HC candidate? It’s comical looking at the tweets from early January claiming what a find he’d be. Things switch quickly around here and many discussions become forgotten

Stash · Feb 23, 2020

TexasFrog said:
Not only this but weren’t many in the media claiming he’d be the hottest HC candidate? It’s comical looking at the tweets from early January claiming what a find he’d be. Things switch quickly around here and many discussions become forgotten

Another tactic is to try to blame others for wanting to talk about it. The terms "spilled milk" and "move along" are often used.

Or else they hide.

They know who they are.

I sure do.

The Fonz · Feb 23, 2020

Corso said:
I love Marine Biology. I probably would have gotten into that, if I didn't get into... whatever the Hell I do.

You might end up like George Costanza

Corso · Feb 23, 2020

The Fonz said:
You might end up like George Costanza

Import/Export baby!

kskboys · Feb 23, 2020

stasheroo said:
They're not saying anything that hasn't been said on this forum for most of those "10 years". The Cowboys have continually been at a coaching disadvantage, and not even having close to a "steak on every plate" was enough to overcome that disadvantage. The new coaching staff has a proven track record of success in this league. Most of them have show the ability to develop championship caliber players. And not just one or two guys at a few positions, surrounded by newbies "learning on the job." (does that sound familiar to anyone?)

And like we ultimately were proven right about Garrett not being worthy of the head coaching job that was gifted to him, we will also be proven right about that coaching disadvantage that he continued to burden this team with. The improved results will be stark, and they will force even the very few remaining excuse-making holdouts to acknowledge the truth.

How many times can I like this????????

kskboys · Feb 23, 2020

stasheroo said:
A former head coach demoted to taking a coordinator role.

That's down.

And I sorta think they hired him hoping for some inside info.

Kaiser · Feb 23, 2020

Idgit said:
You guys should probably listen to what they actually said. Just a thought.

JoeKing · Feb 23, 2020

817Gill said:
Lol what did Holley ever do to you

It's not what he did to me, it's what he did to someone I know. I have my reasons.

Stash · Feb 23, 2020

kskboys said:
And I sorta think they hired him hoping for some inside info.

If they did, they're even dumber than I already thought!

kskboys · Feb 23, 2020

stasheroo said:
If they did, they're even dumber than I already thought!

I was very shocked at the hiring, and really don't comprehend the why of it. Looking at silly reasons now!!!!!!

Miller · Feb 23, 2020

stasheroo said:
Another tactic is to try to blame others for wanting to talk about it. The terms "spilled milk" and "move along" are often used.

Or else they hide.

They know who they are.

I sure do.

It’s Stockholm Coaching Syndrome. 10 years and people are feeling for their captor and acting like it was all good despite wasting 10 yrs of talent

Stash · Feb 23, 2020

kskboys said:
I was very shocked at the hiring, and really don't comprehend the why of it. Looking at silly reasons now!!!!!!

I honestly can't figure out a single one of the Giants hiring decisions.

And I won't bother to try for a team that got rid of Tom Coughlin and then proceeded to hire Ben McAdoo, followed by Pat Shurmer. I'll leave it up to the Garrett apologists to try to talk that up as an organization that looks like they know what they're doing.

Stash · Feb 23, 2020

TexasFrog said:
It’s Stockholm Coaching Syndrome. 10 years and people are feeling for their captor and acting like it was all good despite wasting 10 yrs of talent

Oh, but he's a good guy and all...
:laugh:

In Dallas, that's more highly-valued than actually being good at the job you're paid to do. That's why we no longer win anything. It's all about the feels.

The Fonz · Feb 23, 2020

Corso said:
Import/Export baby!

Vandelay industries?

HungryLion · Feb 24, 2020

stasheroo said:
Another tactic is to try to blame others for wanting to talk about it. The terms "spilled milk" and "move along" are often used.

Or else they hide.

They know who they are.

I sure do.

This will be useful information for me. Should Dak ever crash and burn.

CowboysFaninHouston · Feb 24, 2020

Qcard said:
Listen to Nate Newton (3 Time Superbowl Winning Guard) and Jesse Holley (Former Cowboy and Tarheel) @ 34 min mark talk about how we've been scarred by bad coaching over the last 10 years and how it affects our personal opinions as to how we build a Championship team...

#cowboyszone: Hangin' with the Boys: It's Not Marine Biology https://www.dallascowboys.com/audio/hangin-with-the-boys-it-s-not-marine-biology

who is jesse holley? and why does his opinion matter?

Stash · Feb 24, 2020

DakPresgoat said:
This will be useful information for me. Should Dak ever crash and burn.

Just watch how they do it.

They run their mouth like they're experts and know everything and then they "post less" after they totally embarrass themselves and render everything they have to say from that point forward as meaningless and without merit. But even then, they blame it on "negativity" or anyone other than themselves. Zero personal accountability and the complete inability to ever admit that they were wrong. It's becoming a more and more common character defect.

Recap: Newton/Holley: Scarred by 10 Years of Bad Coaching

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