Why I don’t think we should sign Cooper

Diehardblues said:

You obviously weren’t aware of my history or you’d of known I was a season ticket for most of 4 decades at Texas Stadium but refused to go to new stadium like most of the old Diehards.

You are right there’s a new breed of fans at new stadium. Most of which wouldn’t interest me.

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I see.

No prob.

So we sort of understand each other then.

And BTW..I thought that was your pic in your avatar. Thought you were younger.

Also that you looked like the lead singer from the Doors.

Sorry..my mistake.

ondaedg said:

Gallup is not a #1 type of receiver. Love him and he's playing well for us and glad he's on our team but he is benefiting from Amari. Take Amari away and Gallup's y/c drops significantly. His volume goes up but he won't necessarily be more productive.

Amari re-signs with us or we need to bring in another top tier WR.

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That's conjecture, and I'm not sure it's true.

fivetwos said:

Thanks for saying this, but you forgot that the guy couldnt care less if he wins or not, and has a chronic foot problem.....

I do realize he loves being in Dallas, but he takes that a bit too far for my taste as he refuses to join the team for road trips.

Another good, not great, player who will be paid as great....who doesnt think winning is all that important, and doesnt care if he is removed from the field with the season on the line.

Just because you made a mistake and traded a 1st for a player, doesnt mean the remedy is to compound the mistake and give him a big contract.....especially with the deepest WR draft in some time staring you in the face.

Take this money and spend it on defense.

But no, our top 5 paid QB also needs a top supporting cast around him, so we have to bring this guy back. We can look forward to him living up to this deal at home against weak opponents I suppose, because you wont find him on the road against tough ones.

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My sentiments exactly. We can continue to pour money into an underachieving offense and shop the dollar store for defense, or, actually make an effort to build a defense that will make stops against good teams when it counts.
But Cooper will get paid and Jerry will stifle any attempt at the new coaching staff to build a defense.

My hope is that AC has a resurgence of sorts in a MM offense. He seemed disinterested last year at times to me which effected his performance. Unfortunately, I think Dak NEEDS AC. We saw what happened without him and it wasn't pretty. Plus given the fact they gave a 1rst rounder for him I think they've backed themselves into a corner here. I agree with you that the cap money could be spent elsewhere, all over the roater... but I don't think this team is successful without him right now.

Bobhaze said:

• Michael Gallup will be in his third season, and I believe he’s ready to emerge even more as a go to receiver. Draft a WR in rounds 3-5, and/or sign a cheaper FA with some upside. (Side note: It’s an outdated idea to think you must always have a clear “#1 receiver”. All you need today are multiple receivers that are legit threats)

• We might be able to afford bringing Randall Cobb back plus a good rookie receiver. (This is a deep draft for receivers) Thus giving us more options and flexibility on a roster that needs a ton of help on the other side of the ball.

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There are multiple problems with this. First, it assumes that Gallup can be a go-to receiver, when the evidence that we have right now is that he's a good No. 2 option opposition a true No. 1.

Second, drafting a WR in rounds 3-5 doesn't guarantee that you can find a guy who even contributes. You hope so, but the hit rate isn't that high. You can go with a cheaper vet, but cheaper for us has often meant inferior. The idea that we're going to get a good rookie receiver taking one in the third-fifth rounds and a good cheap vet are what leads to a receiving corps like the one we had that forced us to trade for Cooper. Plus, you end up spending a draft pick on a position that you made a need instead of addressing one that already is a need.

Cobb is a good third receiver to bring back, but we shouldn't expect or put any more on him than that role.

I think Cooper's effect on our passing game is being undervalued here. If we can find someone who can have an equal effect at a lower price, I'm all for it, but I'm not sure it's realistic.

Eightneight said:

My hope is that AC has a resurgence of sorts in a MM offense. He seemed disinterested last year at times to me which effected his performance. Unfortunately, I think Dak NEEDS AC. We saw what happened without him and it wasn't pretty. Plus given the fact they gave a 1rst rounder for him I think they've backed themselves into a corner here. I agree with you that the cap money could be spent elsewhere, all over the roater... but I don't think this team is successful without him right now.

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He was hurt all year and played through it. That's what affected his performance, and he still ended up having a very good season.

I do have concerns about his leg/foot issues being chronic.

kskboys said:

That's conjecture, and I'm not sure it's true.

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Purely conjecture. I don't think he has that quality that allows him to create separation like an Amari or another #1 does. Just saying it like I see it.

gimmesix said:

There are multiple problems with this. First, it assumes that Gallup can be a go-to receiver, when the evidence that we have right now is that he's a good No. 2 option opposition a true No. 1.

Second, drafting a WR in rounds 3-5 doesn't guarantee that you can find a guy who even contributes. You hope so, but the hit rate isn't that high. You can go with a cheaper vet, but cheaper for us has often meant inferior. The idea that we're going to get a good rookie receiver taking one in the third-fifth rounds and a good cheap vet are what leads to a receiving corps like the one we had that forced us to trade for Cooper. Plus, you end up spending a draft pick on a position that you made a need instead of addressing one that already is a need.

Cobb is a good third receiver to bring back, but we shouldn't expect or put any more on him than that role.

I think Cooper's effect on our passing game is being undervalued here. If we can find someone who can have an equal effect at a lower price, I'm all for it, but I'm not sure it's realistic.

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I agree with a lot here but I think if you don’t keep Cooper, you sign Dak and Jones, you have to go WR Rd 1.

The real bottom line is that other teams turn wide receivers not drafted in the first round into stars. We don't do enough of that.

Bobhaze said:

Hot sports opinion here: I don’t think the Cowboys need to sign Amari Cooper. Yes, I know I will take missiles for this but hear me out.

Yes, Cooper is an excellent receiver, I get that. Yes, he has played very well here and has had great chemistry with Dak most of the time. Yes, Jerry gave up a first rounder to get him. Understood. Yes, he’s a hard worker and good person off the field...I get that too. But here are my reasons why I don’t think it’s in the best interest of this team to sign Amari Cooper:

• First of all, having a big contract WR AND big dollar RB is not usually a common formula for a championship roster. In fact, I think the Zeke contract was a mistake but that’s another argument.

• I think saving that cap space to invest in other areas of the team would be smarter and have a bigger impact in both the short and long term. Having a deeper roster at multiple positions is how you get better! (Look at the niners last year- they were good at many positions very quickly) We need help at so many positions and we are sinking a fortune in positions that are easier to find talent (RB and WR)
  
  
• Michael Gallup will be in his third season, and I believe he’s ready to emerge even more as a go to receiver. Draft a WR in rounds 3-5, and/or sign a cheaper FA with some upside. (Side note: It’s an outdated idea to think you must always have a clear “#1 receiver”. All you need today are multiple receivers that are legit threats)

• We might be able to afford bringing Randall Cobb back plus a good rookie receiver. (This is a deep draft for receivers) Thus giving us more options and flexibility on a roster that needs a ton of help on the other side of the ball.

Honestly, I think this ship has sailed and I will be surprised if Cooper isn’t signed to a big contract. I like Amari Cooper and I know he will continue to be a great player. And I will certainly be thrilled if keeping him proves we wrong, which could easily happen.

But....I don’t think keeping Amari Cooper is a cornerstone to a championship. Just my opinion.

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So, your plan is to downgrade at WR.

got it.

TexasFrog said:

I agree with a lot here but I think if you don’t keep Cooper, you sign Dak and Jones, you have to go WR Rd 1.

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If this team goes offense in the first round, they’re in trouble.

our defense can barely field an entire squad without some free agency miracles.

we need to find four defensive starters in the draft and that might not be enough unless we keep Heath.

I mean, I'm not sure they *need* to re-sign him. If Gallup continues his progression, and we re-sign Cobb, and we add another nice WR in the middle rounds of the draft? That's not the embarrassment of riches we had in 2019 but it's not the end of the world either.

But: rather than ask our passing game to stay prolific and as dangerous and as productive as it was in 2019, why not just shift gears and do a 2014-style dramatic shift towards featuring the passing game less and riding the RB crazy-hard? I think that would suit our roster just fine.

First of all, chewing up clock and keeping our defense hidden on the sideline makes the defense less of a problem.

Second of all, our 2014 passing game weapons weren't that amazing either outside of Dez. Dez was a legit #1 posting 1300 yards and 16 TDs, and I don't think even the wildest Gallup fan thinks Gallup posts those numbers in a run-heavy offense or a pass-happy one. But Witten was nothing special by that point. Terence was a nice, but flaky, deep threat complementary piece (worse than Cobb, I'd say). Beasley wasn't yet a very productive player -- we could throw a rock and hit a WR capable of giving us the 420 yards and 4 TDs Beasley chipped in in 2014.

Literally the only thing we couldn't realistically hope to match from the 2014 team is Dez's touchdown total. But we don't have to, because the running game will make up for the lost passing touchdowns.

Murray needed 392 carries to hit that career-best total of 13 TDs in 2014. Zeke has already had seasons with 15 TDs and 12 TDs and he did it with 70-90 fewer carries than Murray needed in his one double-digit TD season. Give Zeke almost 400 carries and he scores more than 13 TDs. Add a handful of Dak TD runs to that, and it makes up for having fewer passing touchdowns than our 2014 version of offense.

So, yeah, we can weather the storm of losing Cooper if we want. Which means we don't *need* to sign him.

But does Jerry want to face the criticism of burning that 1st rounder on a rental?

On top of that, McCarthy made his bones in Green Bay with inordinately receiver-rich teams. Do we really want to hire a coach who has been very dependent on rich WR depth charts and risk kneecapping him right out of the gates by making it so that WR is no longer a strength for us? And possibly risk making WR a full-on weakness)? I dunno. That feels a little like the offensive version of hiring Tampa 2 coaches and asking them to do their thing while saddling them with a d-line and a secondary that make their thing functionally impossible.

We should sign Cooper. The mistake was signing Zeke. . . . .02.