News: Cowboys offer Dak 33m / 105 guaranteed

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KJJ said:
It’s evident that you’re a Dak homer by your username, which makes this argument a waste of time. Goff has an NFC title game win under his belt in a game he played solid in. That win has helped him out perform Dak in the playoffs. Winning a Conference title game is a major skin on a QBs wall. Goff has a better playoff record than Dak. Ultimately QBs are judged by their playoff record, not their stats. At the end of the day it’s not going matter which QB statistically outperformed the other, it’s who got the win. That’s what matters!
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I’m not a Dak homer. And you’re not the one who gets to determine how players are judged. I prefer to judge players by how they actually play. Not by simplistically looking at which team won the game.

If you actually watched Goff play most of his playoff games you would have seen he was mediocre to bad in just about all 4 of them so far. His passer rating in 4 playoff games is 78 for crying out loud. It’s terrible.

By your definitions Terry Bradshaw was a better QB than Roger Staubach.

Trent Dilfer was a better QB than Dan Marino

it’s laughable.
 
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DakPresgoat said:
I’m not a Dak homer. And you’re not the one who gets to determine how players are judged. I prefer to judge players by how they actually play. Not by simplistically looking at which team won the game.

If you actually watched Goff play most of his playoff games you would have seen he was mediocre to bad in just about all 4 of them so far. His passer rating in 4 playoff games is 78 for crying out loud. It’s terrible.

By your definitions Terry Bradshaw was a better QB than Roger Staubach.

Trent Dilfer was a better QB than Dan Marino

it’s laughable.
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I’m not determining how QBs are judged, I’m telling you how the league and the Hall of Fame judges them. You have your own way of judging QBs. You don’t seem to care who wins, it’s what QB outperforms the other statistically. Most times the QB who outperforms the other, their team wins the game. As for Terry Bradshaw he outplayed Staubach in those two Super Bowls. Bradshaw won the stat battle and his team won those games. Some have Bradshaw ranked ahead of Staubach because of those two Super Bowl wins and his other two Super Bowl wins. I put Staubach ahead of Bradshaw based on his great comebacks and his ability to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.

His losses to Bradshaw in those Super Bowls were clearly a result of the Steelers having the better team. Even Landry in an interview admitted the Steelers were the better team both years As for Dilfer he had one of the all-time great defenses which carried that 2000 Ravens team to a championship. Dan Marino carried his Miami teams. If you want to keep going feel free! lol
 
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MetalMike said:
What I find insulting is the possibility that he turns down $33M/yr. ($105M guaranteed), to occasionally throw a ball one day a week for 16 weeks. He could turn out to be a complete dud from this point forward and still have a great life. The only way I'd guarantee him or any other player that much money is if that player guaranteed me a SB championship. No one is worth that much money. I don't care what they do.
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Hennessy_King said:
NO ITS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. Goff and wentz are getting $34m a year and made almost $15m more just from their initial 1st round contracts compared to what dak has been paid. Dak's numbers are better than Wentz's and Goff's. Why should he take less money? It's not Dak's fault this team had terrible contracts in Romo and Dez that they had to eat so they couldn't sign any big free agents to make the team better on his rookie cheap labor deal.
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It's a fair deal. He's about at Goff level but he's not as good as Wentz. If he turns that down then he's got 2 more season to play here and we start long at the next guy.
 
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Hennessy_King said:
You just dont understand business and finance. The big boys make decisions based on market values and statistical facts.
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Not withstanding your ignorant reply and asinine misunderstanding of my post, in the end a man's worth is whatever he agrees to. If Dak accepted 33mil per year with 105m guaranteed, would you be upset? It is only the teams early offer purposely low-balled knowing Dak will go higher hop in it is agreed where they anticipate it to be.

Patience
 
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Seems a fair offer if the bar is Russell wilson.
 
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BrassCowboy said:
Not withstanding your ignorant reply and asinine misunderstanding of my post, in the end a man's worth is whatever he agrees to. If Dak accepted 33mil per year with 105m guaranteed, would you be upset? It is only the teams early offer purposely low-balled knowing Dak will go higher hop in it is agreed where they anticipate it to be.

Patience
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It's not their early offer though. This is their latest offer after talking about this contract for a year now. This should have been the first offer a year ago.
 
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bsbellomy said:
It's a fair deal. He's about at Goff level but he's not as good as Wentz. If he turns that down then he's got 2 more season to play here and we start long at the next guy.
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He’s outproduced Wentz at every turn, and is signing a year later. He’s getting more than Wentz got.
 

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nightrain said:
Facilities, talent, willingness to spend, coaching staff, geo location; there are a lot of things that one would consider before signing a multi year deal with a professional sports franchise. For me, making $30M/Year in Los Angeles would be a hell of a lot more appealing than $35M/Year in Buffalo.
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CT Dal Fan said:
Dak haters will always cling to the first three games he played while Zeke was suspended in November 2017 as proof he can't carry a team, and nothing will change their opinion of him.

Now, I'm under no grand illusion Prescott is elite, but nobody here can say they know he never will be. The Cowboys have themselves a winner at the most difficult position to fill in all of professional sports yet too many fans want them to throw it all away and start over.
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That's not true. I know he never will be. If you don't believe me, go ask pappy
 
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DakPresgoat said:
I’m not a Dak homer. And you’re not the one who gets to determine how players are judged. I prefer to judge players by how they actually play. Not by simplistically looking at which team won the game.

If you actually watched Goff play most of his playoff games you would have seen he was mediocre to bad in just about all 4 of them so far. His passer rating in 4 playoff games is 78 for crying out loud. It’s terrible.

By your definitions Terry Bradshaw was a better QB than Roger Staubach.

Trent Dilfer was a better QB than Dan Marino

it’s laughable.
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I agree with you. And even though I would let Dak walk, I would take him over Goff in a heartbeat. It still puzzles me as to why they paid him. Anyone could have ran that offense. That offensive scheme with the 11 personnel with QB under center and that RB was absolute genius. I wish the Cowboys ran that. We have the perfect roster to do it. Goff's success stems from the Rams gameplan being much better than the Cowboys. I think of Goff like an airline pilot where the plane does most of the work.
 
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blindzebra said:
Then again, how did he outperform Dak? Dak has better stats, more wins, more playoff appearances, and played better head to head in the playoff game.
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The dirty little secret in that game that the untrained eye doesnt see is that Goff may of missed a lot of throws on 1st and 2nd down but converted those big 3rd down throws to keep the Dallas defense on the field. Dak on the other hand went cold and missed way too many 3rd down conversion throws. Yeah Dak came to life in his usual garbage time in the 4th quarter after the Rams took their foot off his throat. But Goff was the better QB on the more important throws to maintain possession for his team. Goff is more accurate and a better passer than Dak.
 
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Flamma said:
I agree with you. And even though I would let Dak walk, I would take him over Goff in a heartbeat. It still puzzles me as to why they paid him. Anyone could have ran that offense. That offensive scheme with the 11 personnel with QB under center and that RB was absolute genius. I wish the Cowboys ran that. We have the perfect roster to do it. Goff's success stems from the Rams gameplan being much better than the Cowboys. I think of Goff like an airline pilot where the plane does most of the work.
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I tend to agree but the thing about Goff is he is physically a better passer than Dak and is more accurate. I wouldnt of paid Goff the kind of money he was paid though.
 
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This is the start of negotiations so they roll this out. Once all the back and forth ceases, he’ll be in the 37-38 range.
 
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