Pollard and Eckler Tandem at RB

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Seattle’s QB was also on a rookie contract! I believe JJ and JG really screwed up our super Bowl window with Dak and Zeke on rookie contracts!!
well that is on JJ and SJ aka the jones boys.
They stuck with JG too long, and they dont plan 5 years ahead, they just go adlib , and maybe
a 1 year plan, which they can and do change on a whim.
Trading a first for cooper is a classic example. It achieved very little,and now they have a problem signing him.
I said when it happened, that it would not be like drafting a wr in rd 1 , because he was on last year of a rookie deal, which means he would have to be paid big soon.
Better to wait and draft a top wr, and get the 4 years on the cheap.
They also didnt think long term on drafting EE in first rd, and now have paid him too much, and so far
he hasnt helped the team in playoff games they lost.
 

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We should use Pollard more so Zeke can lose weight since he won’t need to be a “bell cow”. Hopefully he will regain his explosiveness.
both are possible, but I dont see EE ever looking like he did in 16 ever again.
The jones boys will want most run plays going to EE, since they paid him big.
It depends on MM about how much action pollard gets, maybe in passing game.
I dont know it will all be interesting to see if and how different our Off is with MM.
 

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He is paid so nothing we can do now. But that doesn't mean you cant use Pollard more then we have. Offense would be better if they did. Clearly Pollard presents a big play ability that we are sorely lacking from Zeke and the run game.

I very much blame the coaching and conservative play calling up the middle for some of the issues with the run game. Hopefully that will change with McCarthy and Moore.
Well the jones boys like the stars to get the ball and targets, carries etc, and pollard is a low
round pick, so I dont see him being used much more than last year.
MM might use him more, I guess we will find out this coming season.
Pollard does have a better big play ability, but I think the jones boys think elliot still has that too.
 

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If? And how do you know they were unjust? The guy is a drunken women beater. Saw evidence of that on the footage where he pushed over the security guard.

And what did Zeke leading the NFL do for the Cowboys? NADA!!!

And since when do people even care about the rushing title anymore? Its a "who leads the NFL in carries race" and nothing more. Only about 3 or 4 backs that even get the carries Zeke does. Its a sham now.

Total yards is a better indicator if you HAVE to judge by that route. And with all those touches, you would think the great Zeke would lead the NFL in TD's. Which he never has.
I am not a HUGE fan of Zeke "getting paid", after what Jerry did to help him to try and get out of his suspension I though Zeke was trash for holding out. BUT, pushing a security guard is a far cry from being a "drunken women beater"! Zeke's Lawyers had witness after witness ready to testify in that case and Goodell and his henchmen shut them down. RECORDINGS of her saying she was going to ruin his career, proof she was in a bar fight days before accusing Zeke of beating her, HER friends going to testify for ZEKE. THAT story was crap and the "committee" that Godell assembled to "decide Zekes fate"....the leader "A die hard Giants fan", her living room had nothing but Giants gear, 2 season ticket holders for the Eagles and a former Washington Commanders player. Zeke was NOT allowed to bring forth witnesses but the accuser was. Now, I did NOT want to sign Zeke to Big $$$, not just after the 3rd year in his rookie contract but if you believe the whole "he beat me" story....well,I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale CHEAP!.....PS....why do you think it is she never filed a civil suit against Zeke?I will give you a hint....ALL of her friends that were denied testifying by Goodell would not have been denied by the civil courts and she would have been demolished. I just hope no women ever gets so mad at you for something (in Zekes case he dumped her because she was a nut job) that you have to deal with the crap Zeke did!.....I still would not have caved like JJ did!
 

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No I just pointed out that you can get guys like Ekeler for 5 or 6 million and team them with a quality young back like Pollard and have a great backfield and not spend 15 million on one guy. A guy that gets suspended, does dumb things, goes to Cabo, isn't in shape, and is an otherwise poor leader on the team.
Of course, a year ago when we were making a decision on Zeke, Eckler wasn't a free agent, and we didn't yet know how Pollard would turn out. We still really don't know about Pollard in a larger role.
 

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Well the jones boys like the stars to get the ball and targets, carries etc, and pollard is a low
round pick, so I dont see him being used much more than last year.
MM might use him more, I guess we will find out this coming season.
Pollard does have a better big play ability, but I think the jones boys think elliot still has that too.

These type of questions will be answered when analyzing how good of a HC McCarthy is.
 

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I am not a HUGE fan of Zeke "getting paid", after what Jerry did to help him to try and get out of his suspension I though Zeke was trash for holding out. BUT, pushing a security guard is a far cry from being a "drunken women beater"! Zeke's Lawyers had witness after witness ready to testify in that case and Goodell and his henchmen shut them down. RECORDINGS of her saying she was going to ruin his career, proof she was in a bar fight days before accusing Zeke of beating her, HER friends going to testify for ZEKE. THAT story was crap and the "committee" that Godell assembled to "decide Zekes fate"....the leader "A die hard Giants fan", her living room had nothing but Giants gear, 2 season ticket holders for the Eagles and a former Washington Commanders player. Zeke was NOT allowed to bring forth witnesses but the accuser was. Now, I did NOT want to sign Zeke to Big $$$, not just after the 3rd year in his rookie contract but if you believe the whole "he beat me" story....well,I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale CHEAP!.....PS....why do you think it is she never filed a civil suit against Zeke?I will give you a hint....ALL of her friends that were denied testifying by Goodell would not have been denied by the civil courts and she would have been demolished. I just hope no women ever gets so mad at you for something (in Zekes case he dumped her because she was a nut job) that you have to deal with the crap Zeke did!.....I still would not have caved like JJ did!

I don't believe in conspiracy theories like that. And I saw Zeke getting in the face of his girl and nudging her around when he was doing it. Not to mention the chick was complete trash. If that's the type of chicks he hangs out with, then I can understand why he beats them. We already know he is a drunk.
 

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I don't like his salary and I don't like his off the field or leadership qualities. For some reason, everyone has to like Zeke or you get offended.

Zeke was fine until we signed him to a 15 million dollar contract. Now he will have to live up to it, which he didn't this past year.

No different than Dak. He will have to live up to the big contract, just like Lawrence hasn't so far.

he was second in the league in scrimmage yards.


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It was a mistake , but the deal is done Roy.
Most SB winners dont have a high paid top 5 RB, they usually have 1 or 2 good RB's.
That means the money dallas is spending on zeke SB teams can spend that elsewhere to make the TEAM better.
The year Seattle won, lynch was pretty good, not sure where he ranked or what his pay was, I think he got more money after that win.

The other thing is even with our OL and EE, our run game is often shut down to the tune of 50 yds in a game, so that is a problem too.
They blame dak, but either you can run or you cant. There are other issues I see , like the blocking schemes, which I hope MM changes.
But EE is the main back, and they have to pay him, no going back now, so make the best of it and run him a lot, which the jones boys
might not want to do,for various reasons.
Pay him then dont use him lol.



7 of 59 games Zeke finished with less than 50 rushing yards.


Saquon has less than 50 in 10 of 29 games.
Cmc has less than 50 in 23 of 49 games.
 

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7 of 59 games Zeke finished with less than 50 rushing yards.


Saquon has less than 50 in 10 of 29 games.
Cmc has less than 50 in 23 of 49 games.

Barkley has played for a bad offense with a bad Oline. As to combat that, they throw the ball to Barkley a lot instead of give him carries. You do know that RB's also catch passes these days right?

In contrast, Zeke has played behind on of the best Olines in football and last year played for the #1 rated offense in football.
Your biased is showing with your selective stats.

Barkley also didn't just get 50 million signing bonus.
 

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7 of 59 games Zeke finished with less than 50 rushing yards.


Saquon has less than 50 in 10 of 29 games.
Cmc has less than 50 in 23 of 49 games.
2 or more of those 7 games were big games, 1 a div playoff game.
I am not saying it is ee's fault, it is partly the blocking schemes and other factors.
But he isnt worth paying 15 mil a year.
Add to all that the off field issues, not staying in good shape , or hey what about getting
in even better condition??
Now he is like some old man and has to take breaks on sidelines breathing hard lol even
on some 3rd and 4th down plays.
he looked great in 2016, but has gone downhill each year condition wise.
 

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I don't believe in conspiracy theories like that. And I saw Zeke getting in the face of his girl and nudging her around when he was doing it. Not to mention the chick was complete trash. If that's the type of chicks he hangs out with, then I can understand why he beats them. We already know he is a drunk.
Proven facts are not "conspiracy theories",it was all over the news when the crap "committee" was delegating, Zeke was not allowed ONE witness on his behalf, Goodell picked who he wanted to testify and it was only people talking against Zeke. Just because you do not like the guy (I am not a big fan after the hold out) does not make him a woman beater.
 

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Proven facts are not "conspiracy theories",it was all over the news when the crap "committee" was delegating, Zeke was not allowed ONE witness on his behalf, Goodell picked who he wanted to testify and it was only people talking against Zeke. Just because you do not like the guy (I am not a big fan after the hold out) does not make him a woman beater.

Ah so you were there and know all the evidence? Again, I dont believe that Goodell is after Zeke or the Cowboys. They obviously thought he did it and for sure he did the other 2 or 3 other stupid things that I am sure factored into the suspension whether they admit it or not. The film of him getting drunk in public with a trash girl getting in her face and the security guard only made it seem more believable to me.

Women beater is tongue and cheek. But the guy has issues. Maturity and drinking obviously. Poor leader. And yah, I dont like him.
 
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