38 million a year, what can that buy?

Bigdog · Mar 11, 2020

CowboyRoy said:
HE isn't. This is just another pathetic troll spreading a false rumor to try and much up the FanZone.

Cant believe this stuff is allowed to remain on the board.

I don't believe it either. I think the last offer was fair one by the Jones. If he doesn't like it then go draft Tua.

ABQCOWBOY · Mar 11, 2020

Adreme said:
I would assume the logic being used by them is, if I do nothing then you franchise me for 33m then 39m then sign a 43m dollar contract at least so if that is the case (and the new CBA has the cap exploding), why would he settle for a deal that pays on average less than he would get in 2 years just doing nothing and to get him longer why would he not want the money he knows he will get anyway.

Will he? I mean, there is always the concern of injury and always the possibility that the team may just decide to trade him and move on. I don't really see much sign of that later option but, the situation could drive a decision of that type. Of course, the team could also tag him for less money as well.

Reid1boys · Mar 11, 2020

ultron said:
It can buy a bunch of losing seasons and a lot of top 5-10 draft picks that you have to pray will pan out & will buy wasting careers of some amazing talent (ex: Tyron Smith, Zach Martin, Zeke Elliott, TFred, etc..)

Dak Prescott isn’t going anywhere, he’s either signing a massive contract or getting tagged. The threads need to stop.

Stop? with people like you adding to the thread, how could it possibly stop?

OmerV · Mar 11, 2020

ABQCOWBOY said:
What if they end up with say Tom Brady at like 27 to 30 mil a year? What if they draft a young QB at 17 or lower and have him for maybe another million or two? How much would that help to sign a Cooper or Byron or whomever else?

What if they just flat cut Rush and move on? That would be savings as well right? I mean, there are pros and cons to each position.

Problems with Tom Brady are obviously age and how he will fare with a different team, coaches and system. If somehow the circumstances worked out where we couldn't keep Dak Brady would be a good interim option, but he's not someone to build with.

As for having a young QB on a rookie contract, sure that would save money, but unfortunately there are no guarantees he would be as good as Dak, much less better, so it would leave the QB situation more uncertain. There are more Jake Lockers and Blaine Gabbarts that get drafted than there are Pat Mahomes, and not drafting until #17 does not help.

As for Rush, I can't imagine he is making enough to get too worried about his salary.

Reid1boys · Mar 11, 2020

I would trade away what all of you would say is ridiculous picks and move up to get Tua. Id have a QB under contract in a rookie deal and let dak walk after NEXT year. Id tag him this year and then let him walk. Screw Dak... sorry, this is getting ridiculous.

Reid1boys · Mar 11, 2020

Kingofholland said:
Obviously someone other than Rush would be starting. Rookie from early round QB that didn't pan out, aging vet, etc. It's a valid question, but teams with no QB often don't go far.

in other words, teams with no qb go exactly where we went in Daks first 4 seasons.... nowhere.

foofighters · Mar 11, 2020

TwentyOne said:
Who hinders you to draft a new QB ?

It seems just because our FO doesnt value QBs in the draft fans think doing so is no option at all.

When was I talking about the draft?

ABQCOWBOY · Mar 11, 2020

OmerV said:
Problems with Tom Brady are obviously age and how he will fare with a different team, coaches and system. If somehow the circumstances worked out where we couldn't keep Dak Brady would be a good interim option, but he's not someone to build with.

As for having a young QB on a rookie contract, sure that would save money, but unfortunately there are no guarantees he would be as good as Dak, much less better, so it would leave the QB situation more uncertain. There are more Jake Lockers and Blaine Gabbarts that get drafted than there are Pat Mahomes, and not drafting until #17 does not help.

As for Rush, I can't imagine he is making enough to get too worried about his salary.

Age is an issue but honestly, I am not sure that it would factor into a deal with the Cowboys. I mean, if you gave him a two year deal with a one year club option, I see him easily seeing the end of that deal and what's more, that kinda gives you time to develop your young guy. I don't see him having issues with a new team though. I mean, when Brady had somebody to through to, he was lighting it up. He kinda went in the toilet when he lost all of his receivers so it's really hard to sell the idea that he would not be able to produce in our offense. Brady still has a quick release, he still knows how to throw guys open and he can still read a defense better then anybody in the game.

Young QBs, IMO, are effected much more by the circumstances they get drafted into, then anything else IMO. Yeah, there are Gabbarts and Lockers but there are examples of Brady's and Dak's as well. I mean, we've already shown that we can take a young QB and develop them into a successful product. We are actually built for that IMO. We just hired a Coach who is supposed to be one of the games very best at developing Young QBs in McCarthy. I think the chances are pretty decent that if we draft a good prospect, we can develop them and turn them into a successful player. I'm not nearly as afraid of that as others.

JMO

Rockport · Mar 11, 2020

Jarv said:
So with Dak's new request of 40 million per year vs 2 million a year for Rush, what can that buy in FA?

2 top tier DT's and a safety?

1 top tier DT, safety and TE?

Basically 3 top tier players (~12.5 million per player).

What would your formula be?

There is no new request for 40 mil. Some bozo posts a lie and all the other bozos take it for the truth and then spread the lie. Close your mouth and think for yourself.

OmerV · Mar 11, 2020

ABQCOWBOY said:
Age is an issue but honestly, I am not sure that it would factor into a deal with the Cowboys. I mean, if you gave him a two year deal with a one year club option, I see him easily seeing the end of that deal and what's more, that kinda gives you time to develop your young guy. I don't see him having issues with a new team though. I mean, when Brady had somebody to through to, he was lighting it up. He kinda went in the toilet when he lost all of his receivers so it's really hard to sell the idea that he would not be able to produce in our offense. Brady still has a quick release, he still knows how to throw guys open and he can still read a defense better then anybody in the game.

Young QBs, IMO, are effected much more by the circumstances they get drafted into, then anything else IMO. Yeah, there are Gabbarts and Lockers but there are examples of Brady's and Dak's as well. I mean, we've already shown that we can take a young QB and develop them into a successful product. We are actually built for that IMO. We just hired a Coach who is supposed to be one of the games very best at developing Young QBs in McCarthy. I think the chances are pretty decent that if we draft a good prospect, we can develop them and turn them into a successful player. I'm not nearly as afraid of that as others.

JMO

I wasn't saying Brady couldn't get you by a year or two, was just saying he is a fading player rather than one a team can build and grow with. You have a fair point about young QB's being affected by the circumstances they are drafted into, but keep in mind that Dak was drafted into a circumstance that resulted in a 4-12 record the year before because Romo went down, and when Romo went down in 2016 Dak took over and the team went 13-3. Obviously Dak doesn't get all the credit for that, but neither does any QB deserve all credit or blame for their teams.

Redball Express · Mar 11, 2020

Jarv said:
So with Dak's new request of 40 million per year vs 2 million a year for Rush, what can that buy in FA?

2 top tier DT's and a safety?

1 top tier DT, safety and TE?

Basically 3 top tier players (~12.5 million per player).

What would your formula be?

3 Beyonce dates after her Concerts and a Lamborghini to drive her around in.

And there will be no change left after we stop at the jewelery store.

Adreme · Mar 11, 2020

ABQCOWBOY said:
Will he? I mean, there is always the concern of injury and always the possibility that the team may just decide to trade him and move on. I don't really see much sign of that later option but, the situation could drive a decision of that type. Of course, the team could also tag him for less money as well.

The thing about the latter is he has veto power over any trade until the season starts because he does not have to sign the tag and then once he does sign the tag the other team has to know that he may or may not sign an extension with them. So again he basically is in a position where trading him is not really practical unless he is okay with it. So 33 then 39 then big money extension because he will be a young QB likely coming off putting up more big numbers in a market where players like that do not often hit free agency.

MetalMike · Mar 11, 2020

Regardless of how much he wants, we haven't heard from Dak or his agent regarding the offers so far. My feeling is he wants more than the latest offer and if I was in the FO of the Cowboys I'd say "no" and tag him. When he and his agent see no other teams clamoring to trade for him they might wake up and understand the difference between 'deserving' and 'wanting.'

Redball Express · Mar 11, 2020

BigCatMonaco said:
it’s never been confirmed except by internet losers

And those same losers have never confirmed it, either.

Sneaky tactics.

You can't trust any of us.

JoeKing · Mar 11, 2020

foofighters said:
You really wanna roll the dice with Rush? Dak isn't elite but he wins games. Can Rush?

The Cowboys win and lose games as a team. If the rest of the team does their job, we can win with Rush at QB. We need the defense and ST to drastically improve. Not paying Dak can afford us an opportunity to get that fixed.

Redball Express · Mar 11, 2020

Adreme said:
The thing about the latter is he has veto power over any trade until the season starts because he does not have to sign the tag and then once he does sign the tag the other team has to know that he may or may not sign an extension with them. So again he basically is in a position where trading him is not really practical unless he is okay with it. So 33 then 39 then big money extension because he will be a young QB likely coming off putting up more big numbers in a market where players like that do not often hit free agency.

Dak negotiations remind my of the old nursery rhyme..

" If its and buts were candy and nuts", etc.

"If you will pay me, I will win..", etc.

I am reminded of my younger days when I was getting ready to head off to college and I asked for a new car.

My father said sure. You bring a 4.0 GP home 1st year and we will go shopping.

This is 1972 and I am driving a 1967 6 cyl Mustang at the time.

I never got that new car until I graduated with a 3.15 GP in business in 1976 from SMU.

I missed what my Dad asked for but we reached a deal we both liked.

Dak needs to earn it first than bank it.

Adreme · Mar 11, 2020

Redball Express said:
Dak negotiations remind my of the old nursery rhyme..

" If its and buts were candy and nuts", etc.

"If you will pay me, I will win..", etc.

I am reminded of my younger days when I was getting ready to head off to college and I asked for a new car.

My father said sure. You bring a 4.0 GP home 1st year and we will go shopping.

This is 1972 and I am driving a 1967 6 cyl Mustang at the time.

I never got that new car until I graduated with a 3.15 GP in business in 1976 from SMU.

I missed what my Dad asked for but we reached a deal we both liked.

Dak needs to earn it first than bank it.

What is the definition of "earning" it though? Statistics? He crushed those this year with almost 5k yards passing and plenty of points leading one of the top offenses in footall. Wins? He is among leaders since he entered the league (and that is a team stat). The problem is the numbers say pay the man, the situation says pay the man, so the question is how can they manage to afford to pay the man.

Flamma · Mar 11, 2020

Jarv said:
All I can quote is from the Facebook fan page...

Dude, all of this is ridiculous. The worst is when people say he's our best option now. Yeah, I understand that. But if I have to go to work and I have a choice between a beat up old '93 Chevy and a bicycle, my best option is the car. That doesn't mean I want to pay 30k for the thing. Move on. Let him play for some mythical team he thinks will pay him that much.

Jarv · Mar 11, 2020

Flamma said:
Dude, all of this is ridiculous. The worst is when people say he's our best option now. Yeah, I understand that. But if I have to go to work and I have a choice between a beat up old '93 Chevy and a bicycle, my best option is the car. That doesn't mean I want to pay 30k for the thing. Move on. Let him play for some mythical team he thinks will pay him that much.

I agree.

ultron · Mar 11, 2020

Reid1boys said:
Stop? with people like you adding to the thread, how could it possibly stop?

People like me? I’m sorry, have we met?

38 million a year, what can that buy?

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