Brees willing to take below market contract

Aviano90 said:

Yeah, it was a good offer. I still don’t blame him for playing hardball.

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Yes asking for something is one thing, expecting to get it is another. Why wouldn't Dak ask for all he thinks JJ will pay? As in most cases, the final amount will probably be in between the $40 mil (if that's what he's asking for) and the $33 mil. Besides, if Dak truly knows that he's not a top 3 or top 5 quarterback, then that will come out in the next couple of years, and if he'd taken less there's no chance he gets $40 mil, or more, in his next contract. And no other team will offer it, either. So this is his one shot to get top dollar.

We don't know what Dak's frame of mind is, he may care not one whit about championships, though I doubt that's the case, and has decided to take whatever JJ's final offer is. Or his agents may have convinced him he's the next great NFL quarterback and can get the $40 mil, or a bit less and he's just going with what he's being told. Or he plans to only play 4 or 5 or 6 more years and retire "fat and sassy".

Interesting to discuss, but we have no say in the matter. For me, whatever he gets, he gets, and I'll just digest it and hope and pray it works out for the good of the DALLAS COWBOYS...

CATCH17 said:

Is he marrying Gisele too?

This gives the Saints such an unfair advantage.. These QB's who take team friendly deals just give their team a much better chance at a Superbowl.

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None of them do it on their 1st big contract...

conner01 said:

Salaries don’t work that way
He’s been in the top paid QB most of his career and since he was drafted higher with no rookie cap his rookie contract was pretty good
The point is a guy on his 4th or so contract taking a team friendly deal is not the same as a guy on his first negotiated contract and Brees didn’t take a team friendly deal on his first contract either

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yet it does because he played so long at high level, you mention his career earnings it breaks down to 12 a year..not bad for Brees..

daboyzruleperiod said:

I'm willing too. You?!

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baaaad girl

But hey, as far as the job market goes, I've taken less several times.
Even with my very first job out of college, I took less to work for the company and location I liked more.

Buzzbait said:

The Cowboys already offered him $33 mil yr. and $105 mil guaranteed for what, 4 years?
If Brees is worth 120 mil at age 42, what's wrong with guaranteeing Dak 105 mil by the age of 30? How old is Dak, 26? That sounds like a perfectly reasonable offer by the Cowboys and Dak is turning up his nose at it!
Apparently greed knows no limits.

Do you REALLY feel that $105 mil guaranteed is an unreasonable offer? Is there ANY amount high enough that you guys would not still argue about it??

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The point is Brees already has it, which puts him in a different position than someone looking to get it. And, we really don’t know the details of what contract terms are on the table. Media rumor designed to hook the consumer doesn’t qualify as facts.

OmerV said:

Bigamy is illegal, even in Louisiana.

What Brees does have though, is a net worth of about $120 million, and a limit on how many years he has left, so a team friendly deal is easier to concede than for a 26 year old player with a net worth of about $2 million.

Once Dak has his contract I would be surprised if he doesn't work with the team to restructure along the way to allow more cap space. That's so much easier to do once a palyer's financial future is secure.

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Pay attention.

Every deal we write is structured for restructuring in the 2nd and often 3rd years. Players aren't doing the team a favor by restructuring - they are getting their money earlier. That nearly always a win financially, particularly when you are talking about millions.

AbeBeta said:

Pay attention.

Every deal we write is structured for restructuring in the 2nd and often 3rd years. Players aren't doing the team a favor by restructuring - they are getting their money earlier. That nearly always a win financially, particularly when you are talking about millions.

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People forget that restructuring a contract doesn't result in less total money, it just changes when they get it, typically from earlier to later...

OmerV said:

Treating a guy with a net worth of $2 million dollars as if he is in the same situation as a guy with a net worth of $120 million is a bogus position to take. They are not in the same situations. If Dak were 42 years old with a net worth of $120 million and was certain to make the Hall of Fame his attitude would be different than it is today.

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His net worth is $52 mil at the very least so you’re way off base.

OmerV said:

The point is Brees already has it, which puts him in a different position than someone looking to get it. And, we really don’t know the details of what contract terms are on the table. Media rumor designed to hook the consumer doesn’t qualify as facts.

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Ranching said:

He's 50 years old and has made his money! Did he take below market when he was younger?

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You also forgot to mention he's not an average player at his position looking for the richest contact in NFL history

bsbellomy said:

You also forgot to mention he's not an average player at his position looking for the richest contact in NFL history

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Neither is Dak. He's not average and I hope he gets his cash. Jealousy is a deadly sin. Fans that can't see he is good are pretty comical. Which are you?

Jenky said:

• DREW BREESQB, NEW ORLEANS SAINTS
  
  NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports impending free agent Drew Brees is willing to take a below-market deal with the Saints.
  Brees has already said he is re-signing with the Saints, so it is just a matter of working out the details. Rapsheet expects Brees to settle for somewhere in the neighborhood of what he was making under his recently-expired two-year deal, which was $25 million per season. The Saints always need to get creative with the cap, so this will be a big help as Brees desperately seeks his second Super Bowl title.
  
  SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
  Mar 12, 2020, 3:54 PM ET

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Get err done Jerry!!!!

Ranching said:

Neither is Dak. He's not average and I hope he gets his cash. Jealousy is a deadly sin. Fans that can't see he is good are pretty comical. Which are you?

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Please. Within a year or 2 Dak will be the 3rd best QB in his division, that is unless the Commanders get Joe Burrow. And you lie if you aren't jealous of ANY guy that has the talent to play in the NFL.

bsbellomy said:

Please. Within a year or 2 Dak will be the 3rd best QB in his division, that is unless the Commanders get Joe Burrow. And you lie if you aren't jealous of ANY guy that has the talent to play in the NFL.

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I'm not lying, but I'm not hating either.

bsbellomy said:

Please. Within a year or 2 Dak will be the 3rd best QB in his division, that is unless the Commanders get Joe Burrow. And you lie if you aren't jealous of ANY guy that has the talent to play in the NFL.

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I know this isn't directed at me but no, I am not jealous of any player in the NFL.

At an average of $2.91 million a year, NFL players are much more closely played like NHL players ($2.67) and are way behind MLB ($4.51) and NBA ($7.7) players.

And considering that NFL players have an astronomically higher risk of physical ailments post playing career, to include but not limited to CTE, and that's just absurd.

Then on top for that, NFL careers tend to be much shorter than any other sport. Where every other sport, a decade is the average career length, for the NFL it's only 3.5 years.

And as someone who has served and worked jobs that left me worse off physically, trust me, the pain does not go away any time soon. I separated back in 2003 and I still have issues nearly 20 years later. If I could have gotten more in my 5 year military career, you best believe I would have tried. That's why I fully support NFL players trying to get everything they can while I am less sympathetic towards other professional sports.

So, if I was a physically gifted enough to be a pro athlete, an NFL player would probably be 5th on my list behind NBA, MLB, NHL and maybe even MLS.

And to go back to the QBs in the division, if Dak is the worst QB in the division in a few years, chances are the NFC East would have arguably the best starting QBs in a NFL Division EVER. And those teams will be paying their QBs much more than Dak sooner than later.

JMHO

OmerV said:

The point is Brees already has it, which puts him in a different position than someone looking to get it. And, we really don’t know the details of what contract terms are on the table. Media rumor designed to hook the consumer doesn’t qualify as facts.

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Dak signing for around 30 mil gives him "it" also.

bsbellomy said:

Please. Within a year or 2 Dak will be the 3rd best QB in his division, that is unless the Commanders get Joe Burrow. And you lie if you aren't jealous of ANY guy that has the talent to play in the NFL.

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You have know way of knowing who will be the best quarterback in the NFC East in three years. You can guess or voice your opinion, but you definitely don’t know at this time and if you do then you shouldn’t be here on this forum.

AbeBeta said:

Pay attention.

Every deal we write is structured for restructuring in the 2nd and often 3rd years. Players aren't doing the team a favor by restructuring - they are getting their money earlier. That nearly always a win financially, particularly when you are talking about millions.

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We read all the time about teams going to players and ASKING them to restructure to help with the cap, and about players being willing to restructure. If it were mandated in virtually every contract there would be no asking, and willingness wouldn't be a factor.

KeepinTime said:

His net worth is $52 mil at the very least so you’re way off base.

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We talked about this earlier. Apparent;y then umber quoted online is based on football only, and not other income. But if that's the case, Brees may be worth $250 million or more, so it doesn't change the fact that Dak and Brees are not in the same situation.

kskboys said:

Dak signing for around 30 mil gives him "it" also.

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Signing for 30 gives him 120?

In any case, the point is that Brees didn't have it at one point either. He had to negotiate for it just like Dak is now. And now that he has it, he is in a different situation than a guy that is trying to get it for the first time.