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morat1959

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LOL, I think opposite. The exodus to me only means one thing, influx of new players and it is much needed. The defense has sucked for 10 years. The worst part is they suck at the worst possible time. Why keep that in place?? Try something else and avoid the definition of insanity.
And the best part is the old man is gone with them. May take a couple years to built a great D but this is all positive!
 

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He was around the ball more than anyone we had in the secondary. No great loss but we got some work to do to fix the secondary.

assuming that it was the player's fault yes. However Garrett's teams from 2011-2019 were dead last in INTs. That is 9 full years of ineptitude at taking the ball away. I would argue that it wasn't the player's fault that none of them could take the ball away.
 

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assuming that it was the player's fault yes. However Garrett's teams from 2011-2019 were dead last in INTs. That is 9 full years of ineptitude at taking the ball away. I would argue that it wasn't the player's fault that none of them could take the ball away.

It’s a combination of scheme and player. Players have to be in the right position to make plays on the ball and they also have to be able to catch the ball when it hits them in the hands. We’ve seen a number of drops over the years.
 

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It’s a combination of scheme and player. Players have to be in the right position to make plays on the ball and they also have to be able to catch the ball when it hits them in the hands. We’ve seen a number of drops over the years.

Lots of DBs and LBs drop passes and the sample size of 9 years if just too big to think it's 9 years of bad defensive rosters. Admittedly we've invested close to nothing in the safety position which is the position where most INTs come from.
 

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Darn. That's too bad.

It isn't that he's great. He's not. But now we're down 4 starters on defense?

Clearly, these players are not starters.........thats why they are gone......hopefully mccarthy's fingerprints are on this.......cut the obvious holes in this team.......if only crawford, DLAW. LVE, brown would be next......maybe by next offseason
 

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Clearly, these players are not starters.........thats why they are gone......hopefully mccarthy's fingerprints are on this.......cut the obvious holes in this team.......if only crawford, DLAW. LVE, brown would be next......maybe by next offseason
They were starters on our team. We now don't have starters at those positions. Where will they come from?
 

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We lost the GOAT? Jerry is..https://encrypted-tbn3.***NOT-ALLOWED***/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcQSGWvOIrxOiJ9uMx3UBpvIYu7bYLiLvj9hkW8nGezllwvVeop4DZfxXeGRB-sY7JVawI0kJH_d&usqp=CAc
 

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Lots of DBs and LBs drop passes and the sample size of 9 years if just too big to think it's 9 years of bad defensive rosters. Admittedly we've invested close to nothing in the safety position which is the position where most INTs come from.

We’ve dropped far too many of them. Byron Jones had drops. Lack of ball skills and instincts play a part in it. Regardless of how many times we’ve changed coordinators we see the same problems. No point in investing a high pick on a safety if they’re not close to a sure thing. We’ve drafted safeties but we can’t seem to land a great player at that position.
 

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Best play of his career was that FG. He is a S. That is saying something.
Yeah forget the game winning forced fumble vs. OAK, his INT vs. Rodgers in the playoffs, and his 4th down stop against Ertz to beat Philly in ‘18.

Enough with the nonsense.
 
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