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Ok Dan Bailey didn't have a great 2018 but he was back to his best last season and looks set to be one of the best kickers in the NFL again.

He was 27/29 field goals last season including 3/3 over 50+ yards.
93.1%
Like most of us said at the time, we should have kept him. Brainless to let him go but that's what happens when you overpay other players. Expect more of the same when Prescott gets $35+ million a year.
 

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Ok Dan Bailey didn't have a great 2018 but he was back to his best last season and looks set to be one of the best kickers in the NFL again.

He was 27/29 field goals last season including 3/3 over 50+ yards.
93.1%
Like most of us said at the time, we should have kept him. Brainless to let him go but that's what happens when you overpay other players. Expect more of the same when Prescott gets $35+ million a year.
Or, you could keep a struggling kicker for 2 seasons and not do anything about it.
 

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Sounds like excuse making to me from the resident troll... while he had to go because his inconsistency could cost them future contests, he didn’t actually cost them a single game.

He cost them plenty. In broader terms, Maher has a cannon of a leg and changed the way JG coaches as a result. More specifically, he missed short fg which resulted in losses (Jets), missed a few long ones that Garrett would normally pass on which in turn screwed the Cowboys in field position which was something that plagued them all year.

Missed 57 yd FG in the Vikings game. If that is what Maher is good at, he needs to make that fg. Anyone else, Garrett would with either have punted or went for it. Gives the ball to the Vikings at almost mid field who proceed to walk down the field and score. Dallas lost by four, but were driving inside of one min and would have kicked a short fg to win if Maher makes the fg.

Missed 40yd FG at the Jets. I don't care he made a long fg, that is what he is good at. There were a number of drops as well in that game, but the kicker missed an easy one, short term it flipped the field again and ultimately ended up being the difference in a two point game.

Buffalo. Misses two easy fg, the second one takes it from being a 17-13 game with momentum to 17-6 and Buffalo getting the ball on the 35yd who than walk down the field and score a td to put the game away. Dallas was flat that day no doubt, but the kicker never gave them a chance to find there groove.
 

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Maher contributed to it, but it doesn't all fall on him. He wasn't the reason the team got embarrassed by the Jets or Packers or...
 

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It just puzzled me that Jerry and family went all in because they thought last year was the year. And they went all in with that special teams, safety play and DT play.

Really makes you worry if they are ever going to figure it out. The special teams play was unacceptable and a gross miscalculation of football talent and coaching.
 

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It just puzzled me that Jerry and family went all in because they thought last year was the year. And they went all in with that special teams, safety play and DT play.

Really makes you worry if they are ever going to figure it out. The special teams play was unacceptable and a gross miscalculation of football talent and coaching.

I think at least for DT they were sucked into believing Rod that he knew what he was doing.
Then even Richard voted to take the DT at pick 58 over the safeties there.

So, the coaching staff wasn't exactly telling the FO that safety was a dire need IMO.
 

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He cost them plenty. In broader terms, Maher has a cannon of a leg and changed the way JG coaches as a result. More specifically, he missed short fg which resulted in losses (Jets), missed a few long ones that Garrett would normally pass on which in turn screwed the Cowboys in field position which was something that plagued them all year.

Missed 57 yd FG in the Vikings game. If that is what Maher is good at, he needs to make that fg. Anyone else, Garrett would with either have punted or went for it. Gives the ball to the Vikings at almost mid field who proceed to walk down the field and score. Dallas lost by four, but were driving inside of one min and would have kicked a short fg to win if Maher makes the fg.

Missed 40yd FG at the Jets. I don't care he made a long fg, that is what he is good at. There were a number of drops as well in that game, but the kicker missed an easy one, short term it flipped the field again and ultimately ended up being the difference in a two point game.

Buffalo. Misses two easy fg, the second one takes it from being a 17-13 game with momentum to 17-6 and Buffalo getting the ball on the 35yd who than walk down the field and score a td to put the game away. Dallas was flat that day no doubt, but the kicker never gave them a chance to find there groove.
This is stupid, baseless and full of speculation. It literally proves my point for me... he didn’t cost them a single game. You actually cited a missed 57 yard field goal with more than 3 quarters remaining... lol. Nice try, troll.
 

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@Super_Kazuya , what’s it like getting your mouth slapped all over this thread by several different posters???

Your bottom lip’s quivering, Laughingstock.
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I know 66% is not going to cut it and 20% from 40 to 49 yards was not cutting it. You can't have long drives and then turn around and get nothing on the board. Yes his play was costly, when every point count. I would not put the season on Maher, there was enough mistakes and poor play to go around but he was sure as hell not helping matters.
 

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If the offense does it's job you don't need to rely on kickers to make field goals. Then they just need to make extra points. Or maybe the defense could have made some stops along the way. PLENTY of blame to go around.
 

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The Jets? You mean the game he kicked a 62 yarder and a 50 yarder in to make the score what it was? You’re on so many drugs these days you don’t even remember that you don’t actually watch the games. Reminder: you’re a joke, everyone is either laughing at you or has you on ignore.

Maher had a big leg but he did have an accuracy problem that Garrett let go to long. He missed to many shorter kicks that other kickers hit more consistently. Other coaches don't let that kinda of short inaccuracy go for as long. Example last season when Gostkowski got hurt and went on IR the patriots signed Mike Nugent and he missed a 34 yard field goal he was released. They then signed Nick Folk and when he missed a 43 field goal they released him. Then they signed Forbath and when for the patriots his kickoffs were short they released him and resigned Foles. Now that may have been to excessive but Belicheat has a very short leash when it comes to kickers.
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Sounds like excuse making to me from the resident troll... while he had to go because his inconsistency could cost them future contests, he didn’t actually cost them a single game.
It was far from the biggest issue last season
And I sure don’t think even jerry thought it was
It’s hard to say if it cost you a game because a miss in first qtr means you had 3 qtrs to over come it. But a miss that didn’t appear to matter can hurt momentum
To me the biggest problem with last years team is they accepted loss
 

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Field goals and extra points, are part of the game. If missed, at anytime during the game; it changes strategy. The Cowboys, did not have the coaching nor player intelligence, to work around bad kicking (Punting/Field Goals). Making some kicks, is likened to completing some passes; catching some balls, or making some tackles.
 

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Brett Maher Appreciation Thread :clap:
Thanks to you there will be no more Clapper roaming the sidelines, and no DC that believes you can survive with 290 lb nose tackles, or a secondary coach that tells you to play the hands of the receiver and not the ball:laugh:
I am relieved that we have a new coaching staff, even at the cost of losing a chance at the playoffs.
Some things are just bad karma with no rabbit's foot in sight. So, out with the old, and in with the new.
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Maher had a big leg but he did have an accuracy problem that Garrett let go to long. He missed to many shorter kicks that other kickers hit more consistently. Other coaches don't let that kinda of short inaccuracy go for as long. Example last season when Gostkowski got hurt and went on IR the patriots signed Mike Nugent and he missed a 34 yard field goal he was released. They then signed Nick Folk and when he missed a 43 field goal they released him. Then they signed Forbath and when for the patriots his kickoffs were short they released him and resigned Foles. Now that may have been to excessive but Belicheat has a very short leash when it comes to kickers.
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Maher was released (too late obviously) because he wasn't very good. Doesn't mean he cost us any games though. The absurdly stupid original post makes it sound like for 100% certain we would have been 11-5 with a different kicker. At worst I would say, as some others have, that he certainly didn't help their cause at times and missed some really deflating kicks.
 

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Don't believe me? Look at these terrible numbers by ex-kicker Brett Maher...



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Well, arguably, Jason Garrett was responsible for keeping Maher this long into the 2019 season when it was clear Maher had struggles being accurate since the 2018 season. How many games were lost by the foot of Brett Maher? It cost both Maher and Garrett their jobs, but no other facet of the team cost the Cowboys the 2019 season more.

Just look at Kai Forbath's last 5 teams stats (came to Dallas at the end of the 2019 season). He was 10 for 10 (100% accurate) for the Cowboys last year at the end of the season.

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Regardless of other issues that happened on the field, none were more costly than so many missed FGs. What could have been if the Cowboys FG kicking game had been much better? This facet of the game most cost the Cowboys the 2019 season.

What say you?


If we were a better offensve team at scoring redzone TD's we wouldn't have had to be kicking as many FG's. For a team with the # 1 ranked offense we were only 16th in redzone scoring TD's. Just one question. Was Maher our Kicker in the biggest game of the season when a "win and your in" scenario was in play against the Eagles? Oh wait our kicker was all of our offense in that game as we lost 17-9 cause our vaunted # 1 offense couldn't put the ball into the endzone.....just saying that happened a couple of times last season also

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/red-zone-scoring-pct
 
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