Twitter: Werder: Dak will be NFL's highest-paid player

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Well this is my thing with that. I'm also a Dallas Maverick fan. I saw Dirk Nowitzki take pay cuts after pay cuts that should've been criminal. And for what? So they can sign Chandler freakin' Parsons who STOLE money? And that's in the NBA where you have even less money to spend around and the contracts are guaranteed.

And let's be honest about your scenario. If they need 4 million they can get 4 million by restructuring a contracts. If they need 12 or 16 million they can do the same. They can cut a guy if they need to.

If you need a top 10 DE you need to draft one. You aren't going to get it by free agency anyway because top 10 DE's aren't available. You know who's available? Jadaveon Clowney. That's the type of DE you can get and he's not a guy to push you over to the Super Bowl.

If you need talent draft better. What no one mentions is how these teams keep drafting poorly happen to also be the teams who have spent 35 million on a quarterback. Maybe if you drafted better you could filled a better team like the Seahawks seem to do?

Well if the assumption is that the GM is just going to misuse the money he saves, then sure it doesn't matter. But that is a defeatist attitude.

On a personal level, I don't think any of these guys deserves the money they are making. Playing football is NOT that important in the scheme. So there is that part of it for me.
 

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Ok, well that is laughable. Dalton is not better than Dak in his prime and betting some QB with the 17th pick could be dak is ridiculous. The upside of keeping dak and adding a REAL coach is the better move. By keeping Dak we not only continue to benefit from his upside, but we get to fill in the holes around Dak and become a contender. Your way has many pitfalls and doesnt offer any kind of solution.

How is it laughable?

So you don't think Dalton could drive the bus, throw for 220-250 yards a game and one or two touchdowns a game?

That's all we would need in most games given Zeke will be eating up the yards.

I would sign Dalton and draft a quarterback in the first or second round. Dalton plays for a year with the rookie ready to go in year two.

Titans added a vet QB and beat the Patriots and Ravens in their own backyards in the post season before losing to the SB Champions. Of course they relied on the running game but Tannehill played his part when required. I think we would have a better overall team than the Titans with a similar offense if we don't spunk our junk on a QB not worth the contract. That could be enough to win a Superbowl.
 

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Andy Dalton? So Dak will lead us to 8-8 but Andy Dalton would lead us to what?
Well last season we would have won the division with Andy Dalton.

I would sign Dalton and draft a QB in round one or two. Dalton plays for a year. The rookie starts year two.
 

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I dont think DAK is a SB Caliber QB

That statement doesn't even make sense. Lessor QB's have won SB's and made SB's.

You guys have all been wrong about Dak up to this point. Why would that change now?

Romo could have won a SB.
 

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Well if the assumption is that the GM is just going to misuse the money he saves, then sure it doesn't matter. But that is a defeatist attitude.

On a personal level, I don't think any of these guys deserves the money they are making. Playing football is NOT that important in the scheme. So there is that part of it for me.

That's not a defeatist attitude that is a realistic attitude. This team and organization has treated free agency like a joke. They've admitted that they don't even start negotiations until later on in free agency and the bargain shop. So factor that approach in, the factor in the players they have signed in free agency, then factor in free agency is full of players other teams don't want? Not having money in free agency should force your hand in drafting better and not taking chances on guys like Taco Charlton. They took a shot on Taco because they could. If they felt more pressure to draft better they would've took TJ Watt.


And I believe football players should get what they deserve. If they make billions a year then at the very least they should be compensated for that. These owners make money off their likeness and their last name and they can't. So yeah I'm for them getting all the money they can get.

And in the crisis we are in now....we are asking entertainers to entertain us. Times like these are when they become really important. NFL won't even postpone their draft because they want to cash in on how many people will be sitting at home watching their product.
 

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Well last season we would have won the division with Andy Dalton.

I would sign Dalton and draft a QB in round one or two. Dalton plays for a year. The rookie starts year two.

And I'm curious how you came to this conclusion? What on earth has Andy Dalton done to give you such confidence?
 

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How is it laughable?

So you don't think Dalton could drive the bus, throw for 220-250 yards a game and one or two touchdowns a game?

That's all we would need in most games given Zeke will be eating up the yards.

I would sign Dalton and draft a quarterback in the first or second round. Dalton plays for a year with the rookie ready to go in year two.

Titans added a vet QB and beat the Patriots and Ravens in their own backyards in the post season before losing to the SB Champions. Of course they relied on the running game but Tannehill played his part when required. I think we would have a better overall team than the Titans with a similar offense if we don't spunk our junk on a QB not worth the contract. That could be enough to win a Superbowl.

That's not a reasonable solution. That doesn't make the team better. So your solution is to goto Dalton? LOL

You didn't like Dak at 500k per year, but you are fine with Dalton at 20 million? LOL

Your philosophy wreaks of hatred and lacks common sense.

Titans are a prefect example actually. And how much is Tannehil getting paid now? 30 million per year. That's just what good QB's make. Saving 5 million dollars isn't going to make or break your team.
Dak's upside far outweights what Dalton can provide.
 

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Again, there is such silliness in the logic, "Hey, we can pay him $38MM now because in a year, Mahomes will be making $42MM....."
 

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I'm too lazy to read 7 pages of comments, but trust I'm not the first to cite that just because a player can be considered the NFL's highest paid player does not mean that the contract automatically is not team friendly.

Does "highest paid player" mean... just for 2020?... in terms of total contract value?... in terms of base + bonus, or just base?

And again, there are a number of ways to structure a contract so that it is team friendly. I trust that Stephen has full control of the negotiations from the team's side, and there is reason to expect it will be a fair deal.

Aside... and again, probably something that's already been said, if not multiple times...

This circumstance signals to me that there is someone in free agency they want to go get, but need to get this deal done to allow for that to happen.

i'm lazy too, in trying to read thru all these pages with too much of it the usual Dak rant - when i'm trying to find out the contractual proposed details (or rumors if any)

Fish was recently YouTubing and saying Cowboys have upped their offer of 110 million guarateed...and 35-36 million per year and may have agreed to the 4 year term Dak was really wanting.
and so much has to do with the new upcoming TV contract agreement between the channel studios and the NFL ..and you have to know that Jerry camp will be
the lead negotiator in getting those deals done. And those TV deals also heavily impact the NFL's salary cap ....thus enters Dak's next Free Agency
and new re-negotiation... again. And whatever Pat Mahommes ends up being highest paid in soon time ..Dak will want to top even that !
 

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Well last season we would have won the division with Andy Dalton.

I would sign Dalton and draft a QB in round one or two. Dalton plays for a year. The rookie starts year two.

LOL...…..Dalton wins the division eh? Now that is funny.

So your solution is to give up, use Dalton for a year, tank the season and pray that you draft a QB that quickly develops into a top 10 QB?

How about we just sign the top 10 QB we have?

When you Dak trolls come up with something that makes remote sense, let me know.

But its moot anyway. Dak is our QB for at least the next 4 years. With MM as our coach, we are basically one or two offseasons away from being a legitimate contender.
 

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Heck, we could have been in the SB in 2016 with Dak as a rookie had we had better coaching and a better defense. 2016 pretty much proves your theory wrong in itself.

No. It was partly lost before we even got going in the second quarter due to a stalling offense and the final nail was Prescott needlessly spiking the ball giving the guys off the street gassed Packers defense time to recover, reset and reorganise. Worse still it gave Rodgers enough time to put the Packers in position to win the game. We only had to reach OT as the Pack were gassed. There is a reason why a rookie QB has never won a Superbowl. Inexperience and poor decision making at crucial moment(s).
 
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