Does Taking Jordan Love At 17 Make Sense If No Dak Deal Is Made By Draft Day

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it depends regarding the 8-8. If the QB shows signs of improvement since they'd be a rookie if that's what was to happen most would be ok. On here it would be the same Dak civil war but most Cowboys fan will be like cool. If the QB doesn't show any signs of being at least on Dak level that's when it will be a real problem IMO.
"Showing signs" is not an option on this team...if you go with Rookie then McCoy and Poe deals are a wash because rookie signals rebuilding.

If Dak deal falls through all other Cowboy FA off-season contracts to date appear dumb.

If you think a journey QB will suffice then Massage Mike better have a Coach of Year type year..
 

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What was the point of tagging dak if they dont sign or trade him this offseason?

The point was to buy time to work out a deal, which is what they're trying to do (even if some don't like it).
 

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"Showing signs" is not an option on this team...if you go with Rookie then McCoy and Poe deals are a wash because rookie signals rebuilding.

If Dak deal falls through all other Cowboy FA off-season contracts to date appear dumb.

If you think a journey QB will suffice then Massage Mike better have a Coach of Year type year..
Showing signs might not be an option for the actual team but for the fans showing signs will work and that's who I was mostly speaking on. After 2016 rookie doesn't necessarily mean rebuilding but I guess I can see until the games start people seeing things that way. We disagree on Dak so I do think a decent QB would suffice but now with its being gone I'm moreso with drafting one. If they're not going to draft one high I'm all for Dak being here next year and trying to draft a QB next year if we are still a fringe playoff team.
 

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i like him better than Herbert,he is a 1 read thrower right now but his arm talent and quick motion throws are what GMs are looking for in a QB.
 

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Showing signs might not be an option for the actual team but for the fans showing signs will work and that's who I was mostly speaking on. After 2016 rookie doesn't necessarily mean rebuilding but I guess I can see until the games start people seeing things that way. We disagree on Dak so I do think a decent QB would suffice but now with its being gone I'm moreso with drafting one. If they're not going to draft one high I'm all for Dak being here next year and trying to draft a QB next year if we are still a fringe playoff team.
Agree to disagree sir

I just think Exclusive Franchise Tag instead of Non-exclusive placed on Dak shows the Cowboys don't think even having Two 1st RD picks is worth Dak let alone a decent QB.

We shall see
 

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Agree to disagree sir

I just think Exclusive Franchise Tag instead of Non-exclusive placed on Dak shows the Cowboys don't think even having Two 1st RD picks is worth Dak let alone a decent QB.

We shall see
What were we agreeing to disagree on? You keep talking about the team and I’ve already said I was talking about what most fans would say. I didn’t mention anything about a tag in our discussion outside of answering your question.
 

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Dak has been franchised. Deal or no deal he is a Cowboy in 2020
Yeah.... But what about the future?
I mean people will complain that a rookie won't be ready.... Well we have Dak this year then next year Love will be ready...

Aside from that, the Cowboys can drop that tag off him and let him go at anytime
 

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It makes sense if you've found a trade partner for Dak.

Keeping dak and drafting love is a bad idea for all parties. If you draft a qb high it has to be because you are prepared to move on from Dak. You cant use a 1st round pick on an insurance policy at qb, not with the 17th pick, and not with the current state of the cowboys. I really think they need to hit in the draft this year to truly contend for a superbowl. Just too many holes at this moment.
What if you think it is hopeless to try and sign Dak? When do you get his replacement?
 

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Yeah.... But what about the future?
I mean people will complain that a rookie won't be ready.... Well we have Dak this year then next year Love will be ready...

Aside from that, the Cowboys can drop that tag off him and let him go at anytime
A QB in the first round wouldnt make much sense if you are trying to win right now. I thought that is why we got MM.
 

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I agree, he’s not the type to do so. But that makes it highly improbable, not impossible. I bet the Steelers boards were having this same discussion about Bell in 2018. “Not possible! He’ll be on the field because he’s my hero! Book it.”
Well I personally think it was good for the Steelers to stick to their guns as well with Bell, yeah Bell might of got his money but it also shows that money is a real thing and teams will not be bullied by one guys who wants the only piece of the pie left. More teams need to hang tough.
That being said, Jones will never go without overpaying for less talent. It's in their blood
 

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Taking a QB at 17 isn't in itself a bad idea. Reaching for a QB when you already have one is. I am not saying Love won't be a good starter in the NFL. He very well may be. But he isn't sure enough of a thing to take at 17 when it isn't a position of need.
 

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Yeah.... But what about the future?
I mean people will complain that a rookie won't be ready.... Well we have Dak this year then next year Love will be ready...

Aside from that, the Cowboys can drop that tag off him and let him go at anytime

Why can't we find a future qb other than using a 1st round pick?
 

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Not a bash Dak thread. But if negotiations don’t go as planned. Isn’t it smart for organization to prepare for the inevitable. Hold outs and bad feelings. MM doesn’t have any connections with Dak. He might want a fresh start.
I would draft a quarterback every single season. You never know what you’re going to get. But I would do it in the later rounds
 

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Not a bash Dak thread. But if negotiations don’t go as planned. Isn’t it smart for organization to prepare for the inevitable. Hold outs and bad feelings. MM doesn’t have any connections with Dak. He might want a fresh start.
It made since when the Giants drafted Daniel Jones because they knew Eli was at the end of his career. Dak's not going anywhere so where is the sense in drafting Jordan Love? This is most certainly a bash Dak thread because the only way the premise makes sense is to assume Dak is on his way out. Stop insulting everyone's intelligence around here by saying it's not a Dak bash thread.
 

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What if you think it is hopeless to try and sign Dak? When do you get his replacement?
Then you draft whoever you like. The big thing in my mind is to not have both guys on the roster this year. If you choose to move on then you've got to rip the bandaid now.

You only split the locker room, have tons of media speculation, etc by starting dak this year with his replacement right behind him on the depth chart.
 

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I would draft a quarterback every single season. You never know what you’re going to get. But I would do it in the later rounds
I agree with your comment but that doesn't answer the question asked. The question was, "does it make sense to draft Jordan Love with no Dak deal being made?". That means a high draft pick is used.
 

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Not a bash Dak thread. But if negotiations don’t go as planned. Isn’t it smart for organization to prepare for the inevitable. Hold outs and bad feelings. MM doesn’t have any connections with Dak. He might want a fresh start.
I think every option needs to be considered. Not sure about Jordan Love but after this upcoming draft there wont be many teams looking for a starting QB and Dak might have to reconsider his worth.
 
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