Cowboys done an outstanding job of getting good use out of other team’s 1st round picks

Hardline · Mar 29, 2020

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...good-use-out-of-other-teams-first-round-picks

Aerolithe_Lion · Mar 29, 2020

Seems to be a 2-way street. Terrence Newman, Morris Claiborne, Demarcus Ware, Taco Charlton all immediately improved after leaving Dallas. Watch Byron Jones go get 8 picks this year

TheMarathonContinues · Mar 29, 2020

Solid article...probably a season too early though. Let's see what McCoy, Dix and Poe do.

TheMarathonContinues · Mar 29, 2020

Aerolithe_Lion said:
Seems to be a 2-way street. Terrence Newman, Morris Claiborne, Demarcus Ware, Taco Charlton all immediately improved after leaving Dallas. Watch Byron Jones go get 8 picks this year

That is incorrect. Terrence Newman and Demarcus Ware's best years came in Dallas. Morris Claiborne was the same player he was when he leather. Byron Jones was a All Pro corner.

Taco.....I mean he racked up some DNP's in Miami so it seemed like he was doing the same crap there he was doing here.

Usually when you leave Dallas your career doesn't get better. Maybe you can say Anthony Hitchens did. Martellus Bennett for sure did. A very small list.

Aerolithe_Lion · Mar 29, 2020

rocyaice said:
That is incorrect. Terrence Newman and Demarcus Ware's best years came in Dallas. Morris Claiborne was the same player he was when he leather. Byron Jones was a All Pro corner.

Taco.....I mean he racked up some DNP's in Miami so it seemed like he was doing the same crap there he was doing here.

Usually when you leave Dallas your career doesn't get better. Maybe you can say Anthony Hitchens did. Martellus Bennett for sure did. A very small list.

I agree Newman and Ware were great in Dallas, but not the years they got cut. They noticeably upticked the next year at their new destination.

TheMarathonContinues · Mar 29, 2020

Aerolithe_Lion said:
I agree Newman and Ware were great in Dallas, but not the years they got cut. They noticeably upticked the next year at their new destination.

I don't know how you came to this conclusion. Ware and Newman bodies were both breaking down towards the end here.....it wasn't like they lost skill. They were the same players at their next destinations that they were here.

Aerolithe_Lion · Mar 29, 2020

rocyaice said:
I don't know how you came to this conclusion. Ware and Newman bodies were both breaking down towards the end here.....it wasn't like they lost skill. They were the same players at their next destinations that they were here.

Yes, as per the article, other teams got great use out of your first round picks. Ware was a huge part of that Denver super bowl team, and Newman had a career resurrection in Cincinnati.

erod · Mar 29, 2020

Now if we could just get the best out of our own lately.

Verdict · Mar 29, 2020

Aerolithe_Lion said:
Seems to be a 2-way street. Terrence Newman, Morris Claiborne, Demarcus Ware, Taco Charlton all immediately improved after leaving Dallas. Watch Byron Jones go get 8 picks this year

Jimmy Smith (cough).

big dog cowboy · Mar 29, 2020

Aerolithe_Lion said:
Watch Byron Jones go get 8 picks this year

I'll take that bet. Give me the under.

batman36 · Mar 29, 2020

Aerolithe_Lion said:
Yes, as per the article, other teams got great use out of your first round picks. Ware was a huge part of that Denver super bowl team, and Newman had a career resurrection in Cincinnati.

Resurgence, perhaps? Resurrection; now that is Almight-ly powerful!

Aerolithe_Lion · Mar 30, 2020

batman36 said:
Resurgence, perhaps? Resurrection; now that is Almight-ly powerful!

Hold on, I have some footage of his first game after the cowboys cut him....

Tussinman · Mar 30, 2020

The trade up was more the issue than Mo himself. Claiborne never became an elite corner but he belonged in a starting NFL lineup for almost 90 games

Cowboys coaching at that time didn't do him any favors either (high coaching turnover rates for Rob Ryan, Monte Kiffin, and Rod Marinelli is a good way for your career to regress).

You could argue we wasted his career, his performance immediately improved the moment he left (same with Newman and Carr, like I said coaches didn't do these players any favors). Unfortuantely for Mo he was only able to keep it up for 2 seasons, injuries started to catch up

Taco is the only one I would classify as a "whiff"

Typhus · Mar 30, 2020

Aerolithe_Lion said:
Seems to be a 2-way street. Terrence Newman, Morris Claiborne, Demarcus Ware, Taco Charlton all immediately improved after leaving Dallas. Watch Byron Jones go get 8 picks this year

Best troll ever!

Johnny23 · Mar 30, 2020

rocyaice said:
That is incorrect. Terrence Newman and Demarcus Ware's best years came in Dallas. Morris Claiborne was the same player he was when he leather. Byron Jones was a All Pro corner.

Taco.....I mean he racked up some DNP's in Miami so it seemed like he was doing the same crap there he was doing here.

Usually when you leave Dallas your career doesn't get better. Maybe you can say Anthony Hitchens did. Martellus Bennett for sure did. A very small list.

Taco had 7.5 sacks in 8 games for Miami and actually played well. He had a season ending injury.

TheMarathonContinues · Mar 30, 2020

Johnny23 said:
Taco had 7.5 sacks in 8 games for Miami and actually played well. He had a season ending injury.

He did not have 7.5 sacks he had 4 with the Dolphins lol.........

Did you just make up all of the above?

One of those players is defensive end Taco Charlton, who was brought in after Week 2 of the 2019 season as a waiver wire addition courtesy of the Dallas Cowboys. The good news? Charlton played 10 games with Miami and ended the season as the team’s leading sack artist with 5 sacks. The bad news? Charlton was a healthy scratch for several late games in the 2019 season and his 5 sacks aren’t fully indicative of how irregular his pass pressure was throughout the course of the season.

Like I said above, seemed like they got the same exact Taco we got rid of regardless of his 4 sacks he got there.

plasticman · Mar 30, 2020

I constructed a formula to compare Cowboys draft the past decade with the other NFL teams.

Points were based on the degree to which each player contributed whether they were All Pros, starter, backup or role player. Then each category was weighted .These points were applied per game played.

For example, An All Pro for that season was worth 7 points per game, regular starters worth 4 points, special teamers 1 point. It didnt matter if they were playing on a different team, ita about the scoutong department recognizing talent.

The Cowboys ranked at #5 overall. Their greatest success was in drafting a large number of perennial All Pros. However, they fell hard to the middle of the pack in drafting role players, backups and special teamers.

I havent posted my findings yet but....Spoiler Alert!.....The top team is Seattle. Worst is the Jets. The real shocker is the high rankings of both Cincinatti and Cleveland.

As far as 1st rounders, yes good job.....completely neutrialized by the results of the pathetic 2nd round.

big dog cowboy · Mar 30, 2020

rocyaice said:
He did not have 7.5 sacks he had 4 with the Dolphins lol.........

Did you just make up all of the above?

One of those players is defensive end Taco Charlton, who was brought in after Week 2 of the 2019 season as a waiver wire addition courtesy of the Dallas Cowboys. The good news? Charlton played 10 games with Miami and ended the season as the team’s leading sack artist with 5 sacks. The bad news? Charlton was a healthy scratch for several late games in the 2019 season and his 5 sacks aren’t fully indicative of how irregular his pass pressure was throughout the course of the season.

Like I said above, seemed like they got the same exact Taco we got rid of regardless of his 4 sacks he got there.

He didn't set the world on fire like some would lead everyone to believe. He's still a soggy Taco.

TheMarathonContinues · Mar 30, 2020

big dog cowboy said:
He didn't set the world on fire like some would lead everyone to believe. He's still a soggy Taco.

Right. And its telling that with the Dolphins who didn't have the pressure of making the playoffs gave him some DNP's.

starfrombirth · Mar 30, 2020

Aerolithe_Lion said:
Seems to be a 2-way street. Terrence Newman, Morris Claiborne, Demarcus Ware, Taco Charlton all immediately improved after leaving Dallas. Watch Byron Jones go get 8 picks this year

Demarcus Ware did not improve Per Se. He just had a much better DL around him so he was able to get cleaner looks at the QB

Cowboys done an outstanding job of getting good use out of other team’s 1st round picks

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