Twitter: Might the Cowboys be interested in DE Yannick Ngakoue?

This guy was picked in the 3rd round.

Go find the next him in this draft instead of pretending you're a player away.

fivetwos said:

This guy was picked in the 3rd round.

Go find the next him in this draft instead of pretending you're a player away.

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Exactly. We are done looking for starters in FA until we see what the draft brings.

NorthwestDallas40 said:

Exactly. We are done looking for starters in FA until we see what the draft brings.

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Yep.

It's also not just a first for him...its a first PLUS not being able to pay someone else when their time is up.

Its theoretically two starters for one.

Is this the missing piece to a title? If so then sure.

It isnt.

stasheroo said:

Definitely the pass rusher. But we did manage to get one to get us 11.5 sacks last year, right? And for what? A 6th round pick? No 'one size fits all' formula in my book.

And I would ask, do you think that you can draft Chaisson at #17 and he could provide you with that dynamic pass rush you're looking for?

If so, you keep your other picks, and have a cheap contract for four years rather than paying top of the market from day one, right?

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I am a proponent of the draft in providing cheap labor of course. Chiasson is an intriguing prospect. Iirc pass rushers have high bust rates and he is anything but a sure thing. Unfortunately there aren't many sure things in this draft, any sure thing that reaches 17 isn't likely to be a position of great need. We need to be open minded on how to upgrade the talent. Right now the defense is stop gaps and question marks as far as the eye can see.

Risen Star said:

He's 25 and had at least 8 sacks all 4 years of his career. People just want entertainment in the draft. The Cowboys would be lucky to find this kind of pass rusher at 17. I'd do it in a second.

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we dont have the cap room-he's looking for 22 a year

fivetwos said:

Yep.

It's also not just a first for him...its a first PLUS not being able to pay someone else when their time is up.

Its theoretically two starters for one.

Is this the missing piece to a title? If so then sure.

It isnt.

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100 percent. The only possible move is, if we don’t take a DE in draft, and Griffen or Vernon (if CLE cuts him) are willing to take a one year prove it deal for $8m or less, then maybe you sign one and move T Crawford back to DT.

RS12 said:

I am a proponent of the draft in providing cheap labor of course. Chiasson is an intriguing prospect. Iirc pass rushers have high bust rates and he is anything but a sure thing. Unfortunately there aren't many sure things in this draft, any sure thing that reaches 17 isn't likely to be a position of great need. We need to be open minded on how to upgrade the talent. Right now the defense is stop gaps and question marks as far as the eye can see.

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What's your plan for paying this guy top of the market money while you're already doing that with Lawrence? This guy will want Khalil Mack money. Are you good with that?

stasheroo said:

What's your plan for paying this guy top of the market money while you're already doing that with Lawrence? This guy will want Khalil Mack money. Are you good with that?

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You have to be good with paying a good pass rusher who should be in the 8 to 10 sack per year average and is just coming into his prime. I agree with risen's take that you give him Fred's money. I dont trust Gregory at all. Even when available he has had injuries.

RS12 said:

You have to be good with paying a good pass rusher who should be in the 8 to 10 sack per year average and is just coming into his prime. I agree with risen's take that you give him Fred's money.

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This shows people not thinking things through. "Fred's money" is half of what you would have to pay this guy.

I dont trust Gregory at all. Even when available he has had injuries.

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I don't blame you there.

817Gill said:

They (Howie Roseman) also said they feel like their team is super top-heavy roster and cap-wise and they don’t wanna keep going in that direction. They want to hold on to their assets and build depth and youth, while not setting an example for big contracts for outside guys.

These reasons are why they didn’t pursue Hopkins after the initial conversation with Houston.

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Well he says that but then gave Darius Slay big money and traded draft picks for him. He didn't trade for Hopkins because I don't believe he had a chance to. No way you don't give Wentz that for that compensation.

stasheroo said:

This shows people not thinking things through. "Fred's money" is half of what you would have to pay this guy.



I don't blame you there.

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Yeah this guy is not gonna get Fred's money. Gonna be much more than that.

rocyaice said:

Well he says that but then gave Darius Slay big money and traded draft picks for him. He didn't trade for Hopkins because I don't believe he had a chance to. No way you don't give Wentz that for that compensation.

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The slay move binds them even more. People think since they made the postseason that they were a good team, truth is they were 5-7 then beat the Giants twice, skins, and us. The eagles are old and need depth. They have too many holes to fill via the draft, so one trade like that would make sense, especially because it didn’t cost a 1st like Yannick will and Hopkins should have.

Slay was a good exception to the strategy, relatively low price for probably their biggest need. Can’t see them sending a 1st and paying another guy

Unless the Jags panic, the price will be steep. But don't assume Philly won't make a move for him. They have shown to be aggressive in the past. And adding Ngakoue to that DL would be ridiculous.

The cap implications are interesting as well given how much they have invested in the DL.

The money on this will definitely be massive. On the flipside, they’d have to finally let Crawford go and save 9M towards his deal right off the bat. He’s 25. Has plenty of upside. If this draft was loaded at end I’d say no thanks.

If end is something we want to go with. I’d rather keep our pick. Sign Griffen for a 2-3 year deal.. Try and stock up on an end while we see if Gregory pans out. Griffen is no given though so getting something to secure the line rebuild would have me at peace for the near future. Not sure if losing a pick and massive cap space is the best plan. He’d better be worth it if they go that route.

Sydla said:

Unless the Jags panic, the price will be steep. But don't assume Philly won't make a move for him. They have shown to be aggressive in the past. And adding Ngakoue to that DL would be ridiculous.

The cap implications are interesting as well given how much they have invested in the DL.

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The reason why I don't think that it will be the Eagles is the Jaguars' asking price. They will want at least one 1st rounder and Roseman and the Eagles won't give that up. They fleece teams for draft picks, they don't give them up.

And, like with the Rams, the Jaguars will be able to find another sucker willing to part with that 1st round pick. I'd be very surprised if that 1st rounder came from the Eagles.

If he's looking for 20M plus, we already have one of those BYE!

why doesnt every team just trade all their picks away for proven talent? completely remove the risk of draft busts!

stop trading picks. it is not a smart or sustainable way to build a successful team. maybe there are exceptions but idc...it’s just not good.

I don't suppose the front office is going to do much more before the draft. I think they are putting all their eggs in on a R. Gregory return, which would be foolish in my opinion.

fredp22 said:

we dont have the cap room-he's looking for 22 a year

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We have the cap room.

This is about the cost to acquire him.

He'd easily get his asking price on the open market. Asking price plus a 1st and another high pick? Now that's a different story. Particularly since the Rams and Texans have exhausted their dumb move allowances.

Dude is a flat out baller.

Some of y'all see a name you can't pronounce and look for a reason to hate on a player.

lkelly said:

Ah, the path to success. Trading away cheap 5 year contracts for players asking for top market deals. That appears to be working out great for the Rams.

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This...Going forward we are going to need every damn one of our picks. People will sign our backups and middling FAs to bigger deals. Picking up McCoy and Poe on cheap vet deals to improve our DL is one thing but with an overpriced offense that is signed until the end times we are going to have to rely on the draft to replenish our D every year. We are not going to hit on every draft pick. We are lucky that in the last two years we paid virtually everybody. Maybe we pay LVE if he is healthy but maybe we are paying other guys in a few years. Right now we need a RDE, CB1, and WR3, and FS. If Griffen is available I would do that up to $10M but I am not paying a Clowney. I would focus the top 4 picks on those following areas. Throughout this time, we have been good with the OL but we have to be sure that C is actually covered with the players we have or next year that may be a concern. Letting Cobb, Quinn, and Byron go was the right thing to do for the money. We spent it better and have a chance to replace those players comparably while we got deeper and stronger. If Zeke holds up that won't be the albatross it appears to be with the expanding cap and the sacrifices we made this year.