News: Yet another Dak thread. So sue me I am bored

TheMarathonContinues · Mar 31, 2020

Aerolithe_Lion said:
You had me fooled, I admit.

You fooled yourself. I'm not getting into those debates I don't care who's better. I'm just glad we got the one we got and you are probably happy you got the one you got.

TheMarathonContinues · Mar 31, 2020

fivetwos said:
Which I still dont understand on several levels.

If Dak signs for say, 5 years, and his 2023 salary is scheduled to be, say 36 million....

If there are other QBs at that time making way more and/or doing way less, Prescott will hold out, leaving Jerry no leverage yet again.

Yet.....if Prescott STILL hasn't won anything by 2023, what leverage would HE have?

A short deal allows the team to move on much more easily in that scenario, so it's really win/win for Jerry on short term.

I have to be missing something because a short deal completely benefits the team.

Prescott wants to bet on himself big time....why not LET him??

I keep asking myself this same thing. Why is the deal being held up on a extra year? Jerry must be in fear that the last year of the deal will look like a bargain.......I don't care about that. A year should not be holding up this deal. That goes against the narrative that they don't have faith in him. They clearly due to want him to sign a long term deal.

GMO415 · Mar 31, 2020

sean10mm said:
I think it's a matter of time. The hate intensified as he aged in spite of his quality of play improving over the same time because a QB with no rings is just a bad person to a certain kind of fan. It's like you've got to call him a bum and talk about him like he's a bad person for the crime of only being good and not being historically great.

True. Tony was a turn over machine at the onset, and eventually became prolific passer.

fivetwos · Mar 31, 2020

rocyaice said:
I keep asking myself this same thing. Why is the deal being held up on a extra year? Jerry must be in fear that the last year of the deal will look like a bargain.......I don't care about that. A year should not be holding up this deal. That goes against the narrative that they don't have faith in him. They clearly due to want him to sign a long term deal.

Yep, but again, Jerry seems to want to lock him up at what would be considered cheap down the road.

All that does is set up a holdout. I'd rather have him playing for that next contract.

Meanwhile, it's becoming more and more clear that Prescott is much more concerned about money and endorsements than actually winning.

Gotta give Jerry credit....barely SNIFFED and NFC title game, nevermind a SB in the last quarter century yet the QB w the star on his hat has plenty of commercial offers.

TheMarathonContinues · Mar 31, 2020

fivetwos said:
Yep, but again, Jerry seems to want to lock him up at what would be considered cheap down the road.

All that does is set up a holdout. I'd rather have him playing for that next contract.

Meanwhile, it's becoming more and more clear that Prescott is much more concerned about money and endorsements than actually winning.

Gotta give Jerry credit....barely SNIFFED and NFC title game, nevermind a SB in the last quarter century yet the QB w the star on his hat has plenty of commercial offers.

It depends how you view it. I think in a perfect world Dak wants to get paid and win. He has a enough confidence in his game to where thinks he can do both.

Like I've said in the threads, people want Dak to take a team friendly deal when Lawrence, Jaylon, Collins, Cooper and Zeke didn't.

fivetwos · Mar 31, 2020

rocyaice said:
It depends how you view it. I think in a perfect world Dak wants to get paid and win. He has a enough confidence in his game to where thinks he can do both.

Like I've said in the threads, people want Dak to take a team friendly deal when Lawrence, Jaylon, Collins, Cooper and Zeke didn't.

Jerry has never been shy with guaranteed money, and I doubt 34 vs 36 million yearly cant be compromised.

By all accounts, credible or not, and logic for that matter....the hangup has to be deal length.

Personally I think Prescott is nuts for not taking the 100+m guaranteed, which wont happen on a shorter deal.

Thats just me. His agents are extremely greedy, because Jerry is historically generous.

CowboysFaninHouston · Mar 31, 2020

kskboys said:
By demanding to be the highest paid player in football when is obviously not the best player in football.

again, he can demand.....he can ask for a $100M/year contract....that's just his demand. how is he holding the cowboys hostage? like I said cowboys have a choice...let him walk! or Tag him....they Tagged him.

just because he is asking for that kind of money, doesn't mean he is holding the team hostage, the cowboys have options...you are a hostage when you have no options....get it?

CowboysFaninHouston · Mar 31, 2020

GMO415 said:
True. Tony was a turn over machine at the onset, and eventually became prolific passer.

that's some craapy pass protection...the guy just waltz up the middle untouched....poor tony

DallasEast · Mar 31, 2020

GMO415 said:
True. Tony was a turn over machine at the onset, and eventually became prolific passer.

~~lol. Five-step drop. Guy in your face before you plant your foot.~~

[Wait. This is the usual Prescott slash Romo bash thread. Better strike that out and re-post something more agreeable.]

aw! Dang it Romo!

TheMarathonContinues · Mar 31, 2020

fivetwos said:
Jerry has never been shy with guaranteed money, and I doubt 34 vs 36 million yearly cant be compromised.

By all accounts, credible or not, and logic for that matter....the hangup has to be deal length.

Personally I think Prescott is nuts for not taking the 100+m guaranteed, which wont happen on a shorter deal.

Thats just me. His agents are extremely greedy, because Jerry is historically generous.

Yeah but the hang up here is years. Not the guaranteed. He gets guaranteed more money with more years.

fivetwos · Mar 31, 2020

rocyaice said:
Yeah but the hang up here is years. Not the guaranteed. He gets guaranteed more money with more years.

Exactly!!

If I'm him I take that. The ONLY way Prescott comes out ahead is if he wins at least one Super Bowl. Not easy to do.

I personally would let him bet on himself that way, then its win/win for Jerry.

Really, if they win even ONE title, Jerry wont care if it blows up the cap for a few years. He shouldn't anyway.

Meaning, if it costs the team a few extra million on the backend because his contract was up.

He will be pushing 30, and they have time to draft another. I see short term as a complete win/win for the team and I have to be missing something.

egn22 · Mar 31, 2020

kskboys said:
WE TRIED.

Geez, how many people keep overlooking our 33 mil/season contract offer before the season started? Dak and his agent turned it down.

It was the years, not just the numbers. It’s a negotiation. We could’ve had him for a BARGAIN already. This ain’t a one way road

Buzzbait · Apr 1, 2020

kskboys said:
The hangup is Dak wants more than he's proven that he's worth, and is holding the team hostage trying to get more pay than he's earned.
There's a ton wrong w/ doing that. Paying Dak elite money if he doesn't progress to elite would be a huge factor in keeping us from super bowl contention.

"Earned". Now there's an interesting concept. Paying elite money to elite QBs, and less than elite money to less than elite QBs. :bow:

Buzzbait · Apr 1, 2020

egn22 said:
It was the years, not just the numbers. It’s a negotiation. We could’ve had him for a BARGAIN already. This ain’t a one way road

That might be true, but those "years" are for the purpose of increasing the "numbers".
Example:
Lets assume you buy a car this year and your payment is $300 per month. Next year you get a raise at your job, so the car dealer sends you a letter saying your car payment is going up to $400 per month because you just got a pay raise.
Would that seem right to you? Think about that. :omg:

That's what Dak wants to do with that short contract so he can be sure to cash in with a new contract.
He wants Jerry to mortgage the Cowboy's possible future earnings, and he's already turned down $105 million guaranteed.

Buzzbait · Apr 1, 2020

rocyaice said:
If he ain't worth it then why doesJerry not move on? You can't hold someone hostage if they allow you to do it lol.

How many choices does Jerry Have? Dak's shooting for the stars because they know Jerry will cave. That's not rocket science.

TheMarathonContinues · Apr 1, 2020

Buzzbait said:
How many choices does Jerry Have? Dak's shooting for the stars because they know Jerry will cave. That's not rocket science.

Jerry has plenty of choices. Jameis, Cam, etc.

StarBoyz83 · Apr 1, 2020

Sign or trade dak this offseason or the tag is pointless

Buzzbait · Apr 1, 2020

rocyaice said:
Jerry has plenty of choices. Jameis, Cam, etc.

Would you want Jameis or Cam? I'd take Cam over Jameis, but I don't want either one. Nevertheless, Jerry will cave. He caved with Dlaw, he caved with Zeke, he'll cave with Dak. Jerry's a caveman and Dak knows it.

TheMarathonContinues · Apr 1, 2020

Buzzbait said:
Would you want Jameis or Cam? I'd take Cam over Jameis, but I don't want either one. Nevertheless, Jerry will cave. He caved with Dlaw, he caved with Zeke, he'll cave with Dak. Jerry's a caveman and Dak knows it.

I wouldn’t if I had Dak. But if you are somebody who didn’t like Dak then you have options.

Buzzbait · Apr 1, 2020

rocyaice said:
I wouldn’t if I had Dak. But if you are somebody who didn’t like Dak then you have options.

I do like Dak and I'm fine with him being our QB. But I didn't like overpaying Dlaw or Zeke, and I don't like the prospect of overpaying Dak.
Overpaying players is not smart and it hurts the team in the long run.

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