Twitter: McCarthy is putting his mark on the Cowboys

Corso · Mar 31, 2020

Idgit said:
Last season the juju was just bad. Yes, there was a lame duck coaching vibe. Though the organization did put together a stacked roster. Zeke’s holdout, I think, was unexpected and was a distraction in camp as much as they didn’t want it to be. LVE took a ste back and then took a seat. That hurt. Things just sort of broke bad after week four, and then there wasn’t that energy there when they needed it. It was just a sucky season overall, especially when we had a really good roster from top to bottom.

Things do happen and you're right.
That was when I started keening into what is the FO going to do now?

Not much. And then the kicker started failing like cray.
And then the punter was falling off a cliff.
The Special Teams was anything, but special: putting this offense in hole after hole and there were solutions out there.
Maybe not great solutions, but alternatives to a glaring problem and they just did not want to do anything until Garrett forced things and by then it was too late.

That unit alone was costing games and nothing was being done to fix it.
Remember that point in the season when Jason said they wanted to look into kickers and Stephen said No they weren't and then a few days later they brought in kickers?

Weird situation that was completely needless to happen. Everyone and their cat knew there were kicking problems and Stevie says no?
And then peeps are brought in a day, or two later?

That's FO sabotage.

Or even worse... FO complete ineptitude.

Idgit · Mar 31, 2020

johneric8 said:
Yes, last year we players, but the overall approach is vastly different. The fact that we went out and got some big heavies for defense is very unlike the cowboys or jason garrett of the past. Remember, these are first wave signings and the whole defensive concept is changing. How could you even entertain the special teams is somehow the biggest difference? The whole teams concept has changed. Look, I didn't mind your post until you ranted the special teams was the only change. I just gave you an example of how that isn't the case. We are signing players in the first wave of free agency! This in itself is a different team concept.

It doesn’t matter how many times you say the word “changed.” If the results are the same, it isn’t really change. We backfilled the loss of a young 3T with a solid veteran signing—a player we considered when he came available last year, too, btw. We gave Poe Bennett’s roster spot. That’s the body-type move I referenced. Like I said: this is business as usual. The only thing that’s changed is you’re more hopeful right now. That’s great. It’s not change.

I didn’t rant about ST at all. I noted we added a legit ST coordinator and a quality FG kicker. There are stories we’re looking to address P, as well. ST was a team weakness on an otherwise good roster last year. We’re going to upgrade it, and we really need to. I’m glad to see it happening, but I have no idea what you’re actually taking issue with. It’s both pretty obvious and fairly important.

Idgit · Mar 31, 2020

Corso said:
Things do happen and you're right.
That was when I started keening into what is the FO going to do now?

Not much. And then the kicker started failing like cray.
And then the punter was falling off a cliff.
The Special Teams was anything, but special: putting this offense in hole after hole and there were solutions out there.
Maybe not great solutions, but alternatives to a glaring problem and they just did not want to do anything until Garrett forced things and by then it was too late.

That unit alone was costing games and nothing was being done to fix it.
Remember that point in the season when Jason said they wanted to look into kickers and Stephen said No they weren't and then a few days later they brought in kickers?

Weird situation that was completely needless to happen. Everyone and their cat knew there were kicking problems and Stevie says no?
And then peeps are brought in a day, or two later?

That's FO sabotage.

Or even worse... FO complete ineptitude.

Yep. I agree. I think they kept Maher an extra week because they wanted touchbacks in the CHI game, but other than that, they sat on their hands.

Forbath was on the NE roster until two or three weeks before we picked him up, btw. I don’t know if there was another upgrade to the guy we had out there or not, but it was frustrating to watch, for sure.

DuncanIso · Mar 31, 2020

rocyaice said:
Ehhh.....I hate to be that guy but all he did was sign 2 30 year old defensive tackles and let 2 of his best defensive players from last season go. Granted, I have no problem with this but those departures and additions probably have more to do with the Cowboys than him.

But I already know what this is. Fluff piece while we are in the honeymoon phase.

plus he hired Nolan.

not a good hire, based on his coaching history.

like the Edwards hire.

blueblood70 · Mar 31, 2020

lkelly said:
"Under Garrett, the usual strategy for NFL free agency was to sit out the first wave -- sometimes even the first two waves -- and instead go bargain shopping in the third and fourth waves, but McCarthy's influence on owner Jerry Jones and the Cowboys front office has seen them depart from the dated blueprint and instead dive right in the pool early and often."

At that point I stopped reading and looked up to see who wrote that gibberish.

Yep, no need to keep reading.

Garett may have had say but in no way was HE responsible for the drafts, Will Mclay and Jerry, Stephen and the scouts, most all of whom are still here..

I believe even without MM we would have done the same thing, this is a year with over 28 Defensive FAS holes to fill and they had no choice to go after soemof the FAS in those areas..

its not lie last years FAS were bad Cobb And QUINN, add benett late etc all contrubuted,..

people act as if weve never once made a good trade or brought in a good FA under garett not once in 10years..lmao

the proof will be in TC, OS and truly 8 games into the RS..alkl this is virtual narratives based from HOPE..lol MM hasnt done anything yet..

but noce to have hope in the new staff even though they've been on lockdown and cant do anything..tomorrow was supposed to be day one of OTAS or some team meetings and such..not happening..

the true measure of MM and Nolan will be game day coaching..lets see all the adjustments they make that garett allegedly never made..lets see how they fill holes after injures or expose a weakness in an opponent, then we cn talk about change..

plasticman · Mar 31, 2020

So Jerry concedes that it is Mike McCarthy's decision to bring in those guys? Perhaps......they are 0-0 as of now.

___________________________________________

If the Cowboys start out 2-0...

Jerry: " I think MIKE has done an excellent job of determining where we needed the help and then addressing it."

If they are 4-1 after the first 5 games........

Jerry: "Obviously, WE did an outstanding job of identifying our needs and finding the right personnel to fill them"

If they are 7-1 after the first 8 games:

Jerry: "Well I felt very strongly that there were certain positions that needed an upgrade. I'm encouraged by the results so far, relieved that I don't have to second guess myself."

__________________________________________________

TheMarathonContinues · Mar 31, 2020

DuncanIso said:
plus he hired Nolan.

not a good hire, based on his coaching history.

like the Edwards hire.

Yeah I don't understand how Edwards didn't get the DC job. I know Nolan was suppose to have a great impact on the Saints linebackers but that's not enough of a selling point to me but we will see.

johneric8 · Mar 31, 2020

Idgit said:
It doesn’t matter how many times you say the word “changed.” If the results are the same, it isn’t really change. We backfilled the loss of a young 3T with a solid veteran signing—a player we considered when he came available last year, too, btw. We gave Poe Bennett’s roster spot. That’s the body-type move I referenced. Like I said: this is business as usual. The only thing that’s changed is you’re more hopeful right now. That’s great. It’s not change.

I didn’t rant about ST at all. I noted we added a legit ST coordinator and a quality FG kicker. There are stories we’re looking to address P, as well. ST was a team weakness on an otherwise good roster last year. We’re going to upgrade it, and we really need to. I’m glad to see it happening, but I have no idea what you’re actually taking issue with. It’s both pretty obvious and fairly important.

Alright bro, I get there are many sides to a story. The point I'm trying to make and I'm sure if you're objective you'll agree, is that there are sweeping changes going on in the cowboys organization right now compared to what we say the last few years with the freckled puppet. And you did say the biggest change was special teams in your first post, that was the comment that I took exception too.

buybuydandavis · Mar 31, 2020

Rockport said:

Seems like our standard offseason tactics in general terms. Bridge players who we won't have to cry about starting.

There is a change in which positions we went after with decent money. DT. S. We've tended to cheap out exactly there. RDT was largely inevitable, as we had nothing and it's a prime spot, but Poe at LDT is a clear departure in type of player and in how much resource we're putting into the position.

I think the stars have aligned for a little more spending, as McCarthy wants change and I think Jerry is trying to lock players before the CBA balloons the cap.

MaineBoy · Mar 31, 2020

rocyaice said:
Ehhh.....I hate to be that guy but all he did was sign 2 30 year old defensive tackles and let 2 of his best defensive players from last season go. Granted, I have no problem with this but those departures and additions probably have more to do with the Cowboys than him.

But I already know what this is. Fluff piece while we are in the honeymoon phase.

Dude, all he did was sign 2 tackles ? Get real. He completely gutted the Garret coaching staff so only one person survived. God, he went so far as to fire the conditioning staff and bring in new people. All of a sudden we have a defensive approach that cares about tackles and the interior d-line. All of a sudden kicking
matters ? Jerry, Stephen, and everyone else is the same in the front office. The only change was the head coach. And boom, these changes.

TheMarathonContinues · Mar 31, 2020

MaineBoy said:
Dude, all he did was sign 2 tackles ? Get real. He completely gutted the Garret coaching staff so only one person survived. God, he went so far as to fire the conditioning staff and bring in new people. All of a sudden we have a defensive approach that cares about tackles and the interior d-line. All of a sudden kicking
matters ? Jerry, Stephen, and everyone else is the same in the front office. The only change was the head coach. And boom, these changes.

He didn't "gut" anything. Before he was even hired Jason Garrett told his staff to look for work. That's usually what happens when a new head coach comes in. He hires his guys. All they did was sign 2 DT's like I said. You guys are gloating and hyped up because of change. And I'm glad for change too. But I'm not gonna give credit for doing what they were suppose to do.

Rockport · Mar 31, 2020

buybuydandavis said:
Seems like our standard offseason tactics in general terms. Bridge players who we won't have to cry about starting.

There is a change in which positions we went after with decent money. DT. S. We've tended to cheap out exactly there. RDT was largely inevitable, as we had nothing and it's a prime spot, but Poe at LDT is a clear departure in type of player and in how much resource we're putting into the position.

I think the stars have aligned for a little more spending, as McCarthy wants change and I think Jerry is trying to lock players before the CBA balloons the cap.

Haters gonna hate and you’ve been one of them.

Jstopper · Mar 31, 2020

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country said:
The middle of our OLine has question marks now. So I'm more worried about the O right now than I am the D.

I just can’t behind you on this one. Frederick missed the entire 2018 season and we still made the playoffs and were in a competitive divisional round game that year. Even last year he wasn’t his same all-pro self, his probowl nod was more off his reputation than his gameplay. Hell even Madden dropped Fred’s overall by almost 10 points by the time the season was over. People are talking like we are missing the 2014 version of Fred. Looney did a fine job filling in 2018 and imo I think he is gonna lose out to McGovern. He played center in college at Penn State, and can step in and give us good play. So like @stasheroo I’m not really worried about the center position at this moment.

Big_D · Mar 31, 2020

rocyaice said:
Ehhh.....I hate to be that guy but all he did was sign 2 30 year old defensive tackles and let 2 of his best defensive players from last season go. Granted, I have no problem with this but those departures and additions probably have more to do with the Cowboys than him.

But I already know what this is. Fluff piece while we are in the honeymoon phase.

How long has the interior DLine been ignored? It's unbelievable! This at least puts an emphasis on getting better and taking the position seriously. Lots of needs, and these are good signings considering. They didn't just go out and get one bargain bin DT then draft a Marinelli special in the 28th round. lol That's been the ongoing treatment of searching for a gem and never actually finding anything. Poe and McCoy. I'll take that. How could it be about the Cowboys when their philosophy has been the complete opposite?

buybuydandavis · Mar 31, 2020

Rockport said:
Haters gonna hate and you’ve been one of them.

Well reasons retort!

TheMarathonContinues · Mar 31, 2020

Big_D said:
How long has the interior DLine been ignored? It's unbelievable! This at least puts an emphasis on getting better and taking the position seriously. Lots of needs, and these are good signings considering. They didn't just go out and get one bargain bin DT then draft a Marinelli special in the 28th round. lol That's been the ongoing treatment of searching for a gem and never actually finding anything. Poe and McCoy. I'll take that. How could it be about the Cowboys when their philosophy has been the complete opposite?

Well they have addressed it in the past. Cedric Thornton, Kerry Hyder, Terrell McClain, Henry Melton, Christian Covington, Stephen Paea............they've addressed it but did it with 3rd tier guys. As of now we don't know what tier McCoy and Poe are. I'd like to think they are 2nd tier guys at best.

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country · Apr 1, 2020

Jstopper said:
I just can’t behind you on this one. Frederick missed the entire 2018 season and we still made the playoffs and were in a competitive divisional round game that year. Even last year he wasn’t his same all-pro self, his probowl nod was more off his reputation than his gameplay. Hell even Madden dropped Fred’s overall by almost 10 points by the time the season was over. People are talking like we are missing the 2014 version of Fred. Looney did a fine job filling in 2018 and imo I think he is gonna lose out to McGovern. He played center in college at Penn State, and can step in and give us good play. So like @stasheroo I’m not really worried about the center position at this moment.

We will see what this FO thinks about their players when the draft comes around. If they take an OLinemen before a DE or DT that would be very telling.

Rockport · Apr 1, 2020

rocyaice said:
Well they have addressed it in the past. Cedric Thornton, Kerry Hyder, Terrell McClain, Henry Melton, Christian Covington, Stephen Paea............they've addressed it but did it with 3rd tier guys. As of now we don't know what tier McCoy and Poe are. I'd like to think they are 2nd tier guys at best.

That wasn’t addressing it. Come on man. And McCoy and Poe both have been 1st tier guys. Just because they’re in their 30’s doesn’t mean they can’t still play that way. Also, their styles complement each other. You’re way off base on this one.

MoistMayonnaise · Apr 1, 2020

leeblair said:
I'm just wondering if it's too little, too late.

Too little, too late for what?

TheMarathonContinues · Apr 1, 2020

Rockport said:
That wasn’t addressing it. Come on man. And McCoy and Poe both have been 1st tier guys. Just because they’re in their 30’s doesn’t mean they can’t still play that way. Also, their styles complement each other. You’re way off base on this one.

Aaron Donald is first tier. McCoy and Poe aren’t first tier.

I’m not off based about anything. I like these moves. I’m just not giving McCarthy credit for moves Stephen and Jerry probably made.

And yes they addressed it in the past. It was bargain shopping no doubt but that was how they decided to address it due to Maranelli being their defensive line coach.

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