A Jerry Jones kind of rule change

bb721 · Apr 1, 2020

Nav22 said:
Hate it.

The #2 seeds are being punished by losing their bye.

They have to earn their way to the Divisional Round now by pummeling some garbage #7 seed that probably finished 8-8 or 9-7.

Way to water down the playoffs, clowns. Fixing what isn’t broken.

a #2 seed shouldn’t have a bye to begin with, I like the fact that only a #1 gets a bye

The Natural · Apr 1, 2020

Nav22 said:
That might be even worse.

Who the hell wants to see some mediocre 8-8 or 9-7 team - that wouldn’t have even qualified for the playoffs a year ago - advance to a title game?

Why stop there? Why don’t we just allow 8 teams per conference like the NBA and NHL?

You know why? Because what makes the NFL special is how difficult it is just to make the playoffs. It makes each of the 16 (for now) regular-season games THAT much more important.

By expanding the regular season AND postseason, they’ve effectively diminished the importance of each game AND watered down the playoff field. Terrible.

Hard to complain watching this franchise fail miserably year in and year out

RustyBourneHorse · Apr 1, 2020

coogrfan said:
You're not concerned about diluting the product? There aren't enough good qb's now.

I'm concerned about that, yes. But, I also don't like the idea of an odd number of games and I'm not a huge fan of the postseason structure without additional teams. I'm thinking at least expanding 2 teams wouldn't be too bad for that, but makes adding an additional playoff team to each conference a bit more sensible

RustyBourneHorse · Apr 1, 2020

gjkoeppen said:
I get that you think it's possible but from Goodell's interview I got the idea the he doesn't thinks so. There was a constant barrage of complaints to the league office when the divisions were of different sizes. Teams in 5 team divisions complained that 4 team divisions had it easier to win the division title. There was a lot of internal squabbling about that.and was made public during a congressional hearing about the leagues antitrust exemption.
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Oh, I see. Yes, I could see that being an issue with the different number. But, at the same time, I think the NFL really gave themselves a bit more trouble from the playoff rules and soon to be regular season rules. They may as well go 18 games with 2 bye weeks imo.

CATCH17 · Apr 1, 2020

I hate it..

They play 16 games and almost half the teams make the playoffs.

Jipper · Apr 1, 2020

CATCH17 said:
I hate it..

They play 16 games and almost half the teams make the playoffs.

you guys need to stop being dramatic. They added two teams from the league at one per conference. Prior to the rule 12 teams or 37% made the playoffs, after the rule 14 teams or 43% make playoffs....its not like they were at 25% and went to 45%, its a small change.

Its not a big difference and is nowhere like the NBA where a bunch of crappy teams routinely make the playoffs year in and out. This rule is not designed to benefit poor teams but rather teams on the cusp of the wildcard. In reality, we will likely see plenty of examples where the 5-6-7 seeds are better teams than the 4 seed..and that is what this is about.

gjkoeppen · Apr 1, 2020

Furboy said:
Oh, I see. Yes, I could see that being an issue with the different number. But, at the same time, I think the NFL really gave themselves a bit more trouble from the playoff rules and soon to be regular season rules. They may as well go 18 games with 2 bye weeks imo.

What the league will no longer be able to do is proclaim they are for the safety of the NFL players when they expand the season by 1 or 2 games. Forcing player to additional risks of injury by having to play extra games. There was an idea out there when they first started to talk about adding a game making it 17 games each team plays and stating that no player would be allowed to play in more than 16 games. The problem with that is then the league is dictating to coaches how he can field a team that give him the best chance to win the game. What will happen is teams that aren't doing well will then wait until the last couple weeks of the season and then sit their starts to pretty much guarantee they lose those games and get the number draft pick or purposely throwing games and the league would be able to do anything about it because they can just say they were following the rules.

I've been totally against wildcard teams to start out with. Now adding another one in each conference it's almost half of the teams get into the playoffs and is just a little ways away from giving out participation trophies.
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RustyBourneHorse · Apr 1, 2020

gjkoeppen said:
What the league will no longer be able to do is proclaim they are for the safety of the NFL players when they expand the season by 1 or 2 games. Forcing player to additional risks of injury by having to play extra games. There was an idea out there when they first started to talk about adding a game making it 17 games each team plays and stating that no player would be allowed to play in more than 16 games. The problem with that is then the league is dictating to coaches how he can field a team that give him the best chance to win the game. What will happen is teams that aren't doing well will then wait until the last couple weeks of the season and then sit their starts to pretty much guarantee they lose those games and get the number draft pick or purposely throwing games and the league would be able to do anything about it because they can just say they were following the rules.

I've been totally against wildcard teams to start out with. Now adding another one in each conference it's almost half of the teams get into the playoffs and is just a little ways away from giving out participation trophies.
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I'm perfectly fine with the concept of wildcard teams. I just think the system was great the way they had it compared to this new concept. An extra bye week and lowering the preseason to 2 games (and maybe the HOF game) would help the 18 games make more doable. I'd also expand the rosters a bit more to help with that. I wouldn't limit the snaps though. At least that's the way it'd play out in my head.

Zekeats · Apr 1, 2020

They had everything perfect. Even number of games 16 and the right amount of teams in the playoffs. Now there will be half the league in the playoffs. Why not just put everyone in and make a NCAA bracket.

gjkoeppen · Apr 1, 2020

Furboy said:
I'm perfectly fine with the concept of wildcard teams. I just think the system was great the way they had it compared to this new concept. An extra bye week and lowering the preseason to 2 games (and maybe the HOF game) would help the 18 games make more doable. I'd also expand the rosters a bit more to help with that. I wouldn't limit the snaps though. At least that's the way it'd play out in my head.

Coaches are really against cutting preseason games because they feel preseason games are the best way to evaluate their talent. They have to give starters at least a half in preseason to get the rust off and that would leave only 3 halves of preseason football to evaluate about 68 non-starting players. That's not many snaps per player. The coaches will tell their owners that if you need to expand season games do it by extending the end of the season and not taking away an important tool to create the best team they can.
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RustyBourneHorse · Apr 1, 2020

gjkoeppen said:
Coaches are really against cutting preseason games because they feel preseason games are the best way to evaluate their talent. They have to give starters at least a half in preseason to get the rust off and that would leave only 3 halves of preseason football to evaluate about 68 non-starting players. That's not many snaps per player. The coaches will tell their owners that if you need to expand season games do it by extending the end of the season and not taking away an important tool to create the best team they can.
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Fair enough, then in that case, there wasn't any reason other than money to monkey about with any of the changes they made. And I'm not sure that the NFL can claim player safety with the additional game anyway. So, that's why I said if they're going to add a game, then make it 18 and have a second bye week. That way, the teams get 2 chances to rest with the extended season, which could actually benefit player safety.

Diehardblues · Apr 2, 2020

Did Jerry comment on rule change?

Bullet22 · Apr 2, 2020

A Jerry Jones kind of rule change

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