Garrett should of been fired after Rams vs Cowboys Divisional Round

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Say it as many times as you feel the need. I'm glad that it ruffles the feathers of the sensitives. It shows a person's true colors whent they can't deal with adversity, or even talking about it.

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Seems you are having the difficulty dealing with adversity. Garrett sucked, but saying it 5,000 times doesn’t make it any more true than saying it 4,000 times. I pointed that out, and you don’t like it. It seems only you can express your view though.
 

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Say it as many times as you feel the need. I'm glad that it ruffles the feathers of the sensitives. It shows a person's true colors whent they can't deal with adversity, or even talking about it.

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LOL, honestly though, my intentions were more bent on just having a fun discussion if anyone else wanted to rejoice in the fact that Garrett was gone they could. The thought of ruffling anyone's feathers never even crossed my mind.

Lets be honest, there is nothing wrong for us to still be in a celebratory mood when it comes to Jerry finally coming to his senses! After all, many on this forum said it would never happen so what has transpired over the last few months is a Cowboys miracle!
 

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Reminiscing is understandable, even if it’s focused on things that went wrong. But time has to pass for it to be reminiscing. In my mind, this isn’t looking back at something, it’s clinging to something. We all wanted Garrett gone, and to move ahead with a new coach, but this thread isn’t one iota different than if Garrett were retained as the coach. This is creating exactly the same thread and discussion as if Garrett was still the coach.

You've missed the point.. I'm still giddy about Garrett being gone!
 

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..tried and true. But Jerry injected a "Eight is Enough" mentality to Dallas football. Forget business, these are friends were dealing with. ;)..
 

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Seems you are having the difficulty dealing with adversity.

I'm not you, crying because people still want to talk about Garrett.

Garrett sucked, but saying it 5,000 times doesn’t make it any more true than saying it 4,000 times. I pointed that out, and you don’t like it. It seems only you can express your view though.

My view is about the subject matter, and exposing people like you trying to control the narrative and censor the forum.

I'm not the guy asking for this thread to go away, you are.

You want to try to 'chastise' people for 'dwelling in the past' because it hurts you to see the truth in front of you again.

This isn't the first time you've shown this tendency and I'm sure it won't be the last.

It's always where our arguments occur. You don't like it when people talk about bad news.

Like I said, the people who 'don't want to talk about it' are the same people who were wrong about it. And it hurts you.

Chaz Green, Taco, Jason Garrett, on and on and on. The excuse makers don't like being reminded that they were wrong.
 

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LOL, honestly though, my intentions were more bent on just having a fun discussion if anyone else wanted to rejoice in the fact that Garrett was gone they could. The thought of ruffling anyone's feathers never even crossed my mind.

Lets be honest, there is nothing wrong for us to still be in a celebratory mood when it comes to Jerry finally coming to his senses! After all, many on this forum said it would never happen so what has transpired over the last few months is a Cowboys miracle!

There is absolutely is not. I had to deal with that clown and fans making excuses for him for over a decade. I'm not about to suddenly forget it happened. If the sensitives can't bear to see it being talked about, they can simply avoid the thread with "Garrett" in the title. It's not hard.
 

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I'm not you, crying because people still want to talk about Garrett.



My view is about the subject matter, and exposing people like you trying to control the narrative and censor the forum.

I'm not the guy asking for this thread to go away, you are.

You want to try to 'chastise' people for 'dwelling in the past' because it hurts you to see the truth in front of you again.

This isn't the first time you've shown this tendency and I'm sure it won't be the last.

It's always where our arguments occur. You don't like it when people talk about bad news.

Like I said, the people who 'don't want to talk about it' are the same people who were wrong about it. And it hurts you.

Chaz Green, Taco, Jason Garrett, on and on and on. The excuse makers don't like being reminded that they were wrong.

yeah, crying ... yet that doesn’t apply to people whining about exactly the same thing they were even after they got the solution to the problem they said they wanted.

And, the thing is, my entire post was designed to say we should quit crying - we got what we wanted!

I wanted Garrett gone too, and I don’t have a problem with anyone complaining when something isn’t being done that almost everyone believes should be. But, again, fans got what they wanted. Shouldn’t a little optimism shine through, or is it that important to always search out the negative? Or is crying really the attraction to being on this site?
 

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yeah, crying ... yet that doesn’t apply to people whining about exactly the same thing they were even after they got the solution to the problem they said they wanted.

I saw people talking about it. Talking about being happy that they were final;ly rid of the burden. And frankly saying they rightfully should have dumped that burden much sooner.

You brought the 'crying' with you when you thought it a good idea to try to tell others what they should and shouldn't talk about. That's the "crying".

And, the thing is, my entire post was designed to say we should quit crying - we got what we wanted!

Save the advice and if you don;t want to talk about Garrett anymore, don't. Control your actions, don;t try to control what anyone else talks about. If you do, we get this.

I wanted Garrett gone too, and I don’t have a problem with anyone complaining when something isn’t being done that almost everyone believes should be. But, again, fans got what they wanted. Shouldn’t a little optimism shine through, or is it that important to always search out the negative? Or is crying really the attraction to being on this site?

Like I said, you brought the 'crying' with you when you showed you couldn't handle people talking about the subject. That's on you.

And in case you're unsure, Garrett's lasting negative impact didn't leave town the second he did.

Again, if you don't want to talk about it. don't. It's real simple. Just don't try to tell anyone else what to do. That's when we have issues.
 

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I saw people talking about it. Talking about being happy that they were final;ly rid of the burden. And frankly saying they rightfully should have dumped that burden much sooner.

You brought the 'crying' with you when you thought it a good idea to try to tell others what they should and shouldn't talk about. That's the "crying".



Save the advice and if you don;t want to talk about Garrett anymore, don't. Control your actions, don;t try to control what anyone else talks about. If you do, we get this.



Like I said, you brought the 'crying' with you when you showed you couldn't handle people talking about the subject. That's on you.

And in case you're unsure, Garrett's lasting negative impact didn't leave town the second he did.

Again, if you don't want to talk about it. don't. It's real simple. Just don't try to tell anyone else what to do. That's when we have issues.
 

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Of course some talked positively, about being gone, but some don’t practice what they preach. If a person talks about how happy they are to be divorced but can’t stop talking about how terrible their ex was, they really aren’t happy. And, of course Garrett’s impact is still present for now, but never wanting to let go of it doesn’t help that.

As fans, would we want the players focused on what could have been better last year or the year before without Garrett, or would we want them focused on how to make things the best the can be now? Obviously the answer for any reasonable person is the latter, but why is that the answer?

It’s because the former not only doesn’t accomplish anything, but it’s also counterproductive.

The same applies to almost anything, even an online discussion forum.
 

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Of course some talked positively, about being gone, but some don’t practice what they preach. If a person talks about how happy they are to be divorced but can’t stop talking about how terrible their ex was, they really aren’t happy. And, of course Garrett’s impact is still present for now, but never wanting to let go of it doesn’t help that.

You let it go. It's clear you're not mature enough top talk about him. But save the unsolicited advice. Other people do want to talk about it and this place doesn't need you trying to censor threads.

As fans, would we want the players focused on what could have been better last year or the year before without Garrett, or would we want them focused on how to make things the best the can be now? Obviously the answer for any reasonable person is the latter, but why is that the answer?

It’s because the former not only doesn’t accomplish anything, but it’s also counterproductive.

The same applies to almost anything, even an online discussion forum.

Yeah, because that's exactly how successes occur, by forgetting all of the mistakes made in the past...
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Why do those same NFL players watch film from prior games? By your standards, they should just burn it and forget they ever made any mistakes at all. Learn nothing, forget it ever happened, here's a cookie.
 

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You let it go. It's clear you're not mature enough top talk about him. But save the unsolicited advice. Other people do want to talk about it and this place doesn't need you trying to censor threads.



Yeah, because that's exactly how successes occur, by forgetting all of the mistakes made in the past...
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Why do those same NFL players watch film from prior games? By your standards, they should just burn it and forget they ever made any mistakes at all. Learn nothing, forget it ever happened, here's a cookie.
Mature enough to constantly start threads saying Jerry stuck with Garrett too long, and say the same thing over and over and over again?

Yep, you got me there. I do not have that maturity level.
 

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Mature enough to constantly start threads saying Jerry stuck with Garrett too long, and say the same thing over and over and over again?

Yep, you got me there. I do not have that maturity level.

Clearly, when you come in to cry about people talking about difficult topics and negative events. Not the first time, not the fifth time, not the 100th time. Your patterns are clear.

Nobody needs your advice for what they should talk about. And your talk of ignoring past mistakes.

If you don't like the subject, get out of the thread.
 

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Mature enough to constantly start threads saying Jerry stuck with Garrett too long, and say the same thing over and over and over again?

Yep, you got me there. I do not have that maturity level.

Here is the bottom line.. Anyone whom has seen any of my post knows that I'm over the moon with Jerry finally doing the right thing, but after watching that game again it really had me scratching my head with how in the world Jerry brought him back YET for another year! There is some truth in regards to me still being a bit frustrated with Jerry in regards to how he handled the whole Jason Garrett hiring and firing. I think if we're all honest with ourselves we can all admit to having frustration with how Jerry has handled things right?

The point of my post was simply brought about by watching that game and being reminded of all the negative things that Jerry has allowed to happen to our beloved Cowboys! Sometimes thinking back on bad things that happened in our lives or to others is what reminds us of how good we have it now..... I look at is as a way to count my blessings, it's not about trying to be negative at all... Sure it was frustrating to watch that game over again knowing how much hope many of us had, but the outcome is really what we all expected if were being honest anyway.
 

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Clearly, when you come in to cry about people talking about difficult topics and negative events. Not the first time, not the fifth time, not the 100th time. Your patterns are clear.

Nobody needs your advice for what they should talk about. And your talk of ignoring past mistakes.

If you don't like the subject, get out of the thread.
Clearly when you defend people constantly crying about the same thing even after getting the solution they wanted, and then complain about someone saying what they think under the pretext of people being allowed to say what they think ...lol

Sorry, but like it or not, there are people who’s interest in this site is less about football than soap opera and wanting a place to practice their constant negativity and infect others with the same. Negativity has it’s place - issues need to be acknowledged - but there is no purpose in clinging to it no matter what, especially after already getting the solution you claimed you wanted.

Interestingly enough, I don’t put you in that category. Sometimes we disagree on what is a legitimate complaint, but I also see you getting excited about things you see as positive, and expressing that positivity. There are others, however, that I truly believe would not show up here if the Cowboys were to win a Super Bowl, because being happy about the team is contrary to their purpose for being here.
 

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I know the forum has discussed this at to a fault but I have to say that after watching every play of that game again a bit ago I came away thinking that our defense was absolutely embarrassing.

Dak had a few bad throws, but watching all offensive possessions I still think he played more than well enough to win. The gameplan that we came out with offensively was just a recipe of failure against the defense the rams were running.

It felt like to me after watching it again that we didn't know how to adjust offensively, and it really felt like the offense was losing confidence watching the defense getting lit up for over 200 yards rushing.

Having said all of that, I really can't believe that this wasn't the moment that got Garrett fired! I'm still a little put off that Jerry had the never to bring him back another year after that performance. There is no doubt in mind that Jerry did what Jerry does best and that is make an emotional decision regarding the Freckled Puppet.

Just be happy that Garrett is finally gone.

Jerry wanted to keep Garrett even after the 2019 season but his son Stephen orchestrated the move to push Garrett out. SJ was already making all of the other football decisions but firing Garrett was the one decision that Jerry had refused to let SJ make.

In the end SJ was able to push Garrett out without Garrett actually having to be fired. It seems that SJ basically hired McCoy and then told him what to say to Jerry that would answer any objections that Jerry would make. While SJ was interviewing McCoy and others, Jerry was still meeting with Garrett.

Now Jerry has no attachment to McCoy like he had to Garrett and they can move forward more like a normal front office.
 

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Here is the bottom line.. Anyone whom has seen any of my post knows that I'm over the moon with Jerry finally doing the right thing, but after watching that game again it really had me scratching my head with how in the world Jerry brought him back YET for another year! There is some truth in regards to me still being a bit frustrated with Jerry in regards to how he handled the whole Jason Garrett hiring and firing. I think if we're all honest with ourselves we can all admit to having frustration with how Jerry has handled things right?

The point of my post was simply brought about by watching that game and being reminded of all the negative things that Jerry has allowed to happen to our beloved Cowboys! Sometimes thinking back on bad things that happened in our lives or to others is what reminds us of how good we have it now..... I look at is as a way to count my blessings, it's not about trying to be negative at all... Sure it was frustrating to watch that game over again knowing how much hope many of us had, but the outcome is really what we all expected if were being honest anyway.
I appreciate this post. I just see so many posters that show up here only to complain, and appear to only show up here for that purpose. I may have unfairly lumped you in that group, and if so I apologize for that.
 

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Clearly when you defend people constantly crying about the same thing even after getting the solution they wanted, and then complain about someone saying what they think under the pretext of people being allowed to say what they think ...lol

Dude, you're the guy "crying":

"Leave Jason alone!"

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I hope you like the look.

Sorry, but like it or not, there are people who’s interest in this site is less about football than soap opera and wanting a place to practice their constant negativity and infect others with the same. Negativity has it’s place - issues need to be acknowledged - but there is no purpose in clinging to it no matter what, especially after already getting the solution you claimed you wanted.

It's not your place to judge. Nobody hired you to be their analyst and tell them "what's best" or what has "no purpose".

Interestingly enough, I don’t put you in that category. Sometimes we disagree on what is a legitimate complaint, but I also see you getting excited about things you see as positive, and expressing that positivity. There are others, however, that I truly believe would not show up here if the Cowboys were to win a Super Bowl, because being happy about the team is contrary to their purpose for being here.

They're not here in this thread. And thank you all the same for the compliment. When we're not going back and forth about this nonsense, I enjoy reading your posts as well.
 
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