Are there really fans that would rather still have Garrett?

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Yea. I think even some of his ardent supporters realized it was time to make a change even if they didn’t hold Jason totally responsible .

Jason was one of the more popular Head Coaches for a number of years since Jimmy because of his history with the Cowboys.

Just a few years ago a local poll had almost 60% of local fans believing he could be first HC to take Cowboys to a championship game sine 90’s dynasty.

And he came fairly close on more than one occasion. But he fell out of favor with most with the collapse this year making a change imminent as much as Jerry fought it off.

I could understand what there still might be some interest. We still have fans who like what Bill and even Wade did here. And some have rooted Wade on since he left here.

Most Cowboy fans know who the real culprit is here. And as long as he is our chances are less regardless what HC we have. That said we always retain some hope. But we aren’t naive enough after the last 25 years to believe MM is the absolute Savior from our dysfunctional leadership.
60% of local fans were idiotic.
 

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There are MILLIONS of fans that still want Jason Garrett as our coach:

Giant's fans
Eagle's fans
Foreskin Fans
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Mike McCarthy managed a 6 win season with a HoF QB in his prime starting all 16 games. Because he’s better at ‘coaching.’ The next coach immediately won 13 games with that team despite no previous HC experience.

Can you think of a head coach who did worse with a hall of fame QB?

I’m okay with the swap.
 

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Listening to The Fan and here them discussing this and getting fan texts saying this staff is not better than the last one.. LMAO! Are these the same folks who feel the Earth is flat by any chance?
I dont think they are saying that exactly,

However I believe those that keep posting how great MM philosophy and the obvious changes that are already great need to tap the brakeds..

the proof is on the filed Garett and Marinelli had their issues and their time ran out but the garret sux narrative is compared to who Landry and Jimmy? maybe but as compared to the rest of the league ie W-L record, division wins, etc etc

he didnt suck, just an average HC, he was top 5 in wins the last decade but the lack of deep playoff runs hurt his tenure more then anything..

So unless MM and Nolan and the rest for this staff get us to a few NFCCG and a least one SB , hes no better then garett..

Bringing in a handful of aged DL, two kickers, the misfit MIA Smith and ??? and all of a sudden his greatness overshadows Garett?Id say fans are cooped up in this shut in order and wanted so badly for release of Garett and the old staff they dont realize the offseason does not win you championships, you must be better then the guy you ae replacing and that mean an NFCCG appearance, win and a sb appearance..Period anything short of that and MM Is a failure..

you do see that the same stats Dak is claiming in Wins vs losses to get 35mil is garetts record as well??


its settle on the field not in the offseason.. weve seen too many dream teams and hype , paper champions all around sports only for it to fail and sometimes fail miserably..

if you are starving and someone gave you an old stale dry cracker , you'd say it was the best cracker you ever had..lol MM is that cracker right now , will he be a high end steak or just the stale cracker? on the field boys thats where the narratives change..
 

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I won't miss a damn thing about Garrett. Even the memes.

I like what MM has done so far, but he faces an extreme challenge in Dallas, not only having to answer to the Joneses, but leading two teams to a Super Bowl is a tall order, and winning one with two teams has proved to be impossible. I'm rooting for him though. For the first time since Parcells left, I feel like we have a HC that's in charge.
Of course, part of the issue with coaches not leading 2 separate teams to a Super Bowl is that once they win the first one they are pretty embedded with that team and may not ever go to another team, or if they do they sometimes don't have a lot of years left.
 

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Yes he did. Not a single redeeming quality as a coach.
By most accounts players liked him and trusted him. I suspect he also worked hard at his job. Obviously those things alone don't make a coach successful, but they are good qualities in a coach.
 
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Of course, part of the issue with coaches not leading 2 separate teams to a Super Bowl is that once they win the first one they are pretty embedded with that team and may not ever go to another team. Even if they do, they may not have a lot of years left.
While that stat is often used it doesn’t represent how many have led multiple teams to a SB or teams to the playoffs which I’d argue is a better measurement.

But it does represent how critical the talent is. Coaching can only take you so far and even our two greatest head coaches only had the ultimate success with their best talent.
 

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Shocking from you. Another insult to fans.

I can’t attach the link from said newspaper in this forum but I want to say that poll was after 2014 season.
Anyone lobbying for Garrett needs therapy and medication.
 

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By most accounts players liked him and trusted him. I suspect he also worked hard at his job. Obviously those things alone don't make a coach successful, but they are good qualities in a coach.
Agreed. Most liked him and he seemed like a stand up guy, the issue is it ran it's course. He had a lot of opportunities, just couldn't get it done.
 

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OK disagree with JG as much as you like but I don't think it is ok to call him names or fault him for a job that was giving to him.
Anyone of us will take the job if it was giving to us .It is a sport after all ( entertainment) let's move on
 

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McCarthy is an actual coach.

Garrett learned how to pretend to act and talk like one.

Hence the simplicity, supposedly for the players.

Meanwhile every opponent knew what was coming.
 

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Yes he did. Not a single redeeming quality as a coach.
nah he didnt at all his record proved it and he wasn't on the market very long.. he simply couldnt take us to the promise land.. Opinions are like..... , well you know..

definition of coach who sucks have horrible records, get fired after 3 seasons etc etc they are all over the NFL and it not Garett..just an average ru n of the mill nothing special HC who could win but not a championship pedigree, sure but suck is saved for the bottom 16 coaches year in and year out that wish they had all the decsions wins and even a handful of playoff games with a few first round byes..that doesnt spell suck..its spells average..

btw MM has a lot fo work to do to get this team to a division win, and the 2nd round of the payoffs, as ki him, thats no easy task.. once he doa this if we havent beemn to an NFCCG and SB wihin 4 years , welp hes just another Graett..
 

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nah he didnt at all his record proved it and he wasn't on the market very long.. he simply couldnt take us to the promise land.. Opinions are like..... , well you know..

definition of coach who sucks have horrible records, get fired after 3 seasons etc etc they are all over the NFL and it not Garett..just an average ru n of the mill nothing special HC who could win but not a championship pedigree, sure but suck is saved for the bottom 16 coaches year in and year out that wish they had all the decsions wins and even a handful of playoff games with a few first round byes..that doesnt spell suck..its spells average..

btw MM has a lot fo work to do to get this team to a division win, and the 2nd round of the payoffs, as ki him, thats no easy task.. once he doa this if we havent beemn to an NFCCG and SB wihin 4 years , welp hes just another Graett..
He sucked. He wasn't run of the mill, he was actively detrimental to his team for his entire tenure.

Not getting fired doesn't mean he was good, it means Jerry was bad not to fire him.
 

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I'm not crying over losing the red headed clapper but I'm not embracing a new coach that's done nothing yet pertaining to wins and losses for the Cowboys.
 

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McCarthy is an actual coach.

Garrett learned how to pretend to act and talk like one.

Hence the simplicity, supposedly for the players.

Meanwhile every opponent knew what was coming.
ignorant fan narrative , if this were true explain 13-3 , 7-1 run to make the playoffs and beat seatle , if EVERYONE KNEW WHAT WAS COMIGN WE WOULD BE 3-13 OR WORSE EVERY YEAR..PERIOD..

ITS THE WEINGLE MOST IGRNORAN STATEMT IN FOOTBALL RAGRDING THIS TEAM OF THE LAST 10 YEARS..IT IS NOT FACTUAL..

explain the division record where we beat the giants like 6 straight times, Philly 4-2 . Washington well nearly 90% of the time, they knew us bets yet they couldn't beat us.. thats so FN hilarious that all teams knew wheat was coming yet we had one of the best point differentials in the league and played those better teams to below a td in score last year alone..

again stop the dumb parrot statements you think you know because if they were true we would have been the most horrible team in football instead we have top 10 record the last because in W-0L and top 5 since 2016.. it make ZERO sense...so some teams studied well saw one tendencies and exploited them occasionally, however they failed more then they succeeded as our record shows it..
 

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He sucked. He wasn't run of the mill, he was actively detrimental to his team for his entire tenure.

Not getting fired doesn't mean he was good, it means Jerry was bad not to fire him.
not true its YOUR opinion , the definition of suck would not be Garett's record the last 10yrs..sorry average yes suck NOPE sorry better study up on your.. the most used term for Garetts teams have been mediocrity , well that means middle, but suck would be bottom.. that we were not..
 
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