How would you feel if the Cowboys took QB Jalen Hurts early?

PJTHEDOORS said:

lol. And Aikman's career 61.5% completion rate in your eyes wasn't inaccurate.

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you cannot compare aikman to dak. Dak stats are system related . Dak's record against winning teams is abysmal compared to aikman. Last year dak was 1-6 against winning teams . Dak missed so many crucial throws in 2018 and 2019 and was not able to make any difference or comebacks to save the team . His melt downs are well documented despited having the top RB, OL, WR around him .

The Cowboys' hierarchy sorely needs to get serious about their QB options.

Settling for longshot talents in late rounds gives lousy odds for success.

BigD5 said:

Jalen Hurts cannot play QB. He doesn’t have the anticipation or the accuracy or ability to read defenses that it takes to be successful.



Watch this video and watch the TD to Ridley. At the start of the play Ridley is WIDE open. Right in front of Hurts and Hurts does not even see him. This happened almost every time he dropped back to pass at Alabama. Also on the flea flicker, Ridley is open by about 8 yds and Hurts underthrows him so bad the DB catches up and knocks the ball away

Terrible QB. Good leader. Strong runner. Strong arm. Awful awful at reading defenses. ZERO anticipation on throws. Will never ever be a good QB in the NFL

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have you seen him last year with oklahoma? his passing improved dramatically under the coaches at OU. He is not known for his accuracy however. Nor is Dak by the way . Dak missed an amazing number of open receivers and his stats are mostly against weak defenses . he is 1-6 against winning teams.

marius said:

I agree with you,

Prescott's wow factor was the season when he replaced Romo when was injured, Dak showed a great game and being able to lead the team, but in my opinion that was because Romo was in the trenches guiding and helping him, they also had Mark Sanchez who was I saw how I was motivating him and giving him advice, after that season in Dak the wow factor was no longer seen, yes, Dak start to give good numbers that until now have improved, but have not been able to win important games, to give the extra for win a game, as we have seen on several occasions for example with Aaron Rodgers. Dak wants more money before proving if he can do more, that's the problem, The Jones must stop begging a whimsical child.

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I say move on if he's asking 38+ for 4 years. I think you have to draft a QB and chalk it up as a loss. France wants to be known to get his guys their money, but I would tell Jerry to call him and ask him how he would look on getting his client canned.

All I know is Hurts has excelled on every level from Pop Warner, to Alabama to Oklahoma. I can't say the same for Dak though(SEE LAST PHILA GAME). Either way, I'm not concerned about it. I just ask Jerry to do what's right for the team in the long run. I think drafting a QB should really be in the conversation if a reasonable (KEY WORD IS REASONABLE) contract Ext is not signed by the time pick 17 rolls around.

OMG

I would love it if Dallas drafted this kid even though he looks completely incompetent in throwing the football and then have him take Dak's job. What a fun thing that would be. The irony. Would be so much fun.

JoeKing said:

That would be counterproductive to the negotiations with Dak Prescott. But of course, a person's opinion about that is going to vary depending on how you are now feeling about Dak. The Dak haters are going to love seeing a QB drafted early.

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That depends. If the franchise wants (needs) to spread the guaranteed money to Dak over 5 years to make it fit with the cap, it could put all the pressure on Dak.

Scenario...Jalen is sitting there when Dallas comes up in the 4th round. They pull the trigger and take him. When the inevitable question comes up in the presser, simply say something like "As a front office, we have an obligation to everyone associated with the organization. Currently, we don't have a starting QB in place long-term and the negotiations are at a place where it appears the other side is not willing to commit to the franchise as long as we need them to commit. It would be irresponsible to not prepare for any eventuality or to assume a second franchise tag will fit under the cap next year. There are too many variables there. With this selection, we have someone we believe could take over if necessary, for whatever reason, and someone who gives us options either way."

Let France and Prescott chew on that.

I think there is a ton of upside with Hurts and would like to have him as a backup to develop. Not sure about "Early", but a mid-round pick could end up being a steal.

MikeB80 said:

OMG

I would love it if Dallas drafted this kid even though he looks completely incompetent in throwing the football and then have him take Dak's job. What a fun thing that would be. The irony. Would be so much fun.

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You mean like how Dak looked and why he went in the 4th? Also, he did just as well as Mayfield and Murray throwing the ball and only lost the Heisman because Burrow had a godly season.

MikeB80 said:

OMG

I would love it if Dallas drafted this kid even though he looks completely incompetent in throwing the football and then have him take Dak's job. What a fun thing that would be. The irony. Would be so much fun.

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fans keep missing the fact that drafting a Qb around the 4th round isnt necessarily Daks replacement, he would be Rushs replacement and put some better competition behind dak in case dak holds out, gets hurt, or has another 4game stretch where he couldn't hit a WR if they were at practice with no defense..

The Dc have been terrible the last 10 years at putting a backup behind their starter whether its was Romo or Dak that could cause controversy , someone with potential and talent..I believe they dont want to hurt the starters feeling or have fans clamoring for the backup. its been obvious and this has to stop, you should pout pressure on your starters at every position, make them feel they better play well and keep their postion through production , or a threat of being replaced is ther at all times..

JHurts could be perfect for this situation he can be a #2 that short term is Taysom Hill swiss army knife type as he gets some experience in the nfl, take a ton of snaps at RPO.Wildcat and yes occasionally pull up and throw It..

I didnt see NE and NO care that their future HOF QBs actually had a solid draft pick behind them or at times taking live snaps in real games.. Last year Brees had 2 quality QBs behind him and it paid off for NO when Brees went down..what daks more specials the Brees or is he mentally fragile?

STOP CODDLEING YOUR QB, BRING IN SOME ACTUAL TALENT BEHIND HIM...

the worse that can happen is Hurts is good , daks signs long term but you have depth at #2 for the first time in a long time..

Dak was 4th rounder who was 3rd on the depth chart and wasn't supposed to start or be the backup, look what happened..why not Hurts?

Philmonroe said:

Everybody has heard of gamesmanship. The thing is why are you online acting like you’re the only smart one that has heard of it just to defend Dak smh. I will keep saying this if some of y’all are so much smarter y’all should use your better football knowledge in a more productive way than just beating up on us bums that don’t even know what gamesmanship is. We offer no challenge to your supreme football expertise.

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Why does it bother you so much and it's wrong for me to have expressed my opinion about someones else's comment but it's OK for you to express your opinion about my comment? Are you the authoritative thought police here?
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BatteryPowered said:

That depends. If the franchise wants (needs) to spread the guaranteed money to Dak over 5 years to make it fit with the cap, it could put all the pressure on Dak.

Scenario...Jalen is sitting there when Dallas comes up in the 4th round. They pull the trigger and take him. When the inevitable question comes up in the presser, simply say something like "As a front office, we have an obligation to everyone associated with the organization. Currently, we don't have a starting QB in place long-term and the negotiations are at a place where it appears the other side is not willing to commit to the franchise as long as we need them to commit. It would be irresponsible to not prepare for any eventuality or to assume a second franchise tag will fit under the cap next year. There are too many variables there. With this selection, we have someone we believe could take over if necessary, for whatever reason, and someone who gives us options either way."

Let France and Prescott chew on that.

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That's far too hypothetical for my blood. Jalen Hurts, IMO is not a QB that will be pro ready in 2020. He is a project.

gjkoeppen said:

Why does it bother you so much and it's wrong for me to have expressed my opinion about someones else's comment but it's OK for you to express your opinion about my comment? Are you the authoritative thought police here?
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Take your insecure logic elsewhere. You posted on a messagebaord correct? I disagreed with your little post so I replied. All this why does it bother me junk is just that junk. Who said you couldn't express your opinion? On that same note who said I couldn't disagree with your opinion? How can I be the authoritative thought police when I didn't attempt to police your thought? Y'all should use this time to learn the meaning of things y'all post because it don't make sense honestly. You'd be better of saying I don't like anybody but other people that agree with me to quote me. I wouldn't agree but I'd "respect" that more.

BatteryPowered said:

That depends. If the franchise wants (needs) to spread the guaranteed money to Dak over 5 years to make it fit with the cap, it could put all the pressure on Dak.

Scenario...Jalen is sitting there when Dallas comes up in the 4th round. They pull the trigger and take him. When the inevitable question comes up in the presser, simply say something like "As a front office, we have an obligation to everyone associated with the organization. Currently, we don't have a starting QB in place long-term and the negotiations are at a place where it appears the other side is not willing to commit to the franchise as long as we need them to commit. It would be irresponsible to not prepare for any eventuality or to assume a second franchise tag will fit under the cap next year. There are too many variables there. With this selection, we have someone we believe could take over if necessary, for whatever reason, and someone who gives us options either way."

Let France and Prescott chew on that.

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I like it, but Hurts will be gone by mid Round 2. Athletic SEC's QB's just don't last that long. You have to take him at the end of Round 1 or Mid Round 2 or before the Las Vegas Raiders in every round he is not taken. LOL

marius said:

I agree with you,

Prescott's wow factor was the season when he replaced Romo when was injured, Dak showed a great game and being able to lead the team, but in my opinion that was because Romo was in the trenches guiding and helping him, they also had Mark Sanchez who was I saw how I was motivating him and giving him advice, after that season in Dak the wow factor was no longer seen, yes, Dak start to give good numbers that until now have improved, but have not been able to win important games, to give the extra for win a game, as we have seen on several occasions for example with Aaron Rodgers. Dak wants more money before proving if he can do more, that's the problem, The Jones must stop begging a whimsical child.

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Extremely well said.

Everybody is tired of the drama Dak is putting the Cowboys thru.

He is undoubtedly putting the other teams grief meters a jolt and now all the lesser QB are going to want alot more.

Do they deserve it?

Each team has to decide.

But yeah you are correct. And I wish it was something else about Dak we could point to that would allow all the fans to agree he is worth everything.

But he can't. Daks want-to for now has to justify what he wants. He is gambling he can do it.

I admire that but it does not win world championships necessarily.

I played alot of golf in my life. At times I got into betting with players for 18 holes. If you played well, you won and collected your money over beers.

If you lost, you paid over beers and the winner usually picked up the tab.

The point is, it was clear that you got the money becuz you were better that day against that competition.

Nobody got paid in advance on a promise to win the next time.

Dak wants to be paid on a promise he really made 4 years ago when he became the QB.

He still has not won it all. Now he wants an extension and to be paid in advance before delivering the goods.

That just makes zero sense to me.

Whatever.

basel90 said:

you cannot compare aikman to dak. Dak stats are system related . Dak's record against winning teams is abysmal compared to aikman. Last year dak was 1-6 against winning teams . Dak missed so many crucial throws in 2018 and 2019 and was not able to make any difference or comebacks to save the team . His melt downs are well documented despited having the top RB, OL, WR around him .

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Oh just stop. Garrett's record against winning teams was abysmal. 9+ years of it. Jason G was the HC was he not?

SEEMS PRETTY IDENTICAL TO ME!

Bottom Line - Hard to find an NFL comp for Prescott because he's built like Donovan McNabb, but lacks McNabb's ability and polish. Prescott has NFL size, mobility and enough arm, but the tape shows a player who must improve his mechanics, poise and quickness through his progressions if he is to become a full-time starter in the NFL. There are absolutely draftable traits and upside, but he will need extended work to smooth out his flaws. Until then, a team would be wise to utilize him on short-yardage package.

Bottom Line - QB Jalen Hurts is a transfer from Alabama who has steadily progressed as a passer -- he still has limitations but the improvement he's shown over his last 3 seasons is notable, the arrow is pointing in the right direction. Hurts is a perfect Day 2 QB in today's NFL, where he can shine via on extended plays, mobility, play-making ability and comfort off script. Hurts' general accuracy may temper his overall ceiling but he's a developmental starter caliber player.

it's typical draft due diligence, imo.
Hell i don't turn away any early round QB that could turn out to be a trade right from another NFL team that could be willing to stock pile us drafts
with an unbelievable offer that could be asking to move up to our spot for a particular QB or player
- considering we can offer what they are wanting while we still have viable chances to get the key value players that are still on our draft board.

Negotiation bluff ? if i'm the Dak camp that's been told how much they are committed to Prescotts's leadership, winner's intangibles, durability, coachability
ability to improve his game, and how he brings the entire organization around him that's been unique, ..and how they are constantly saying they are
in a Win- Now mode, why would the Prescott camp buy into a QB draft bluff ? especially when also considering how they dodge a huge bomb bust of a QB they tried to trade up to get (ala Paxton Lynch) and came away with a game changing, franchise turning QB instead ?

Philmonroe said:

Take your insecure logic elsewhere. You posted on a messagebaord correct? I disagreed with your little post so I replied. All this why does it bother me junk is just that junk. Who said you couldn't express your opinion? On that same note who said I couldn't disagree with your opinion? How can I be the authoritative thought police when I didn't attempt to police your thought? Y'all should use this time to learn the meaning of things y'all post because it don't make sense honestly. You'd be better of saying I don't like anybody but other people that agree with me to quote me. I wouldn't agree but I'd "respect" that more.

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You're big reply of me questioning why it's OK for you to express your opinion but it wasn't OK for me to express mine was just junk is what people say when they don't have an answer to the question. You can't answer why it's OK for you to express your opinion but not me so you just say it's junk. You can babble on about this junk or that junk but we both know you have no answer and that's fine. Just admit it.
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gjkoeppen said:

You're big reply of me questioning why it's OK for you to express your opinion but it wasn't OK for me to express mine was just junk is what people say when they don't have an answer to the question. You can't answer why it's OK for you to express your opinion but not me so you just say it's junk. You can babble on about this junk or that junk but we both know you have no answer and that's fine. Just admit it.
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You're confusing yourself sir. Take this time to smarten up because right now you're making yourself look bad.

This is what this fan base has come to. Actually thinking an Oklahoma QB could supplant the starter here.

Quarantine plus hard liquor and the Cowboys Zone, in most cases, equals this muddled thinking digitally plastered over screens around America.

Drink coffee. Take a nap. Have something to eat. Go take a shower. Perhaps stay off this site for a few days until sanity returns.