Are there really fans that would rather still have Garrett?

erod said:

I wouldn't say I would rather have Garrett.

But Packers fans wouldn't say they'd rather have McCarthy.

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Yes they would lol. Maybe not every Packers fan, but the ones I know liked McCarthy, for the most part, and think JG sucks.

fivetwos said:

Wow!!

Still TBD, but let's see how many HOF players came thru here when Garrett was either OC or HC and they barely sniffed an NFC final appearance, let alone a SB.

Top 25% in HISTORY??

You may never see anyone allowed to do less with more over that long of a period.

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You may need a good explanation of what "objectively" means...

Have Garrett go to the Giants? Love the move.

TexasFrog said:

I think that’s cherry picking. Many coaches run their course. He and Rodgers were not on the same page and it was time to go. He was successful overall. Garrett was not good here but even if people liked him it was his time to go.

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I don't disagree with parting with Jason. But was there really no better candidate than Mccarthy?

fivetwos said:

A DECADE with some very good players, a fair amount of those going to the HOF.

Two playoff wins. ZERO NFC title appearances.

Yep, sure. He was awesome.

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fair amount LOL a few induvial with big stats doesnt make a TEAM..those same individuals have had bad games in the playoffs game or the win and you are in games Garett lost..give it break the truth lies right down the middle..those losses were not because of Garett alone..

I saw Murray fumble in a playoff game running through a hole about 2 yards wide when a finger of player barely in the picture touches it, same game Baily misses 2 Fgs, and the ref says no catch.. thats on garett thats the playoff game we go to an NFCCG?

How about the next year different team but yet the player with what 1:15 left on the clock cant cover a TE ? the CB and S got beat not garett..they were leading with 1:15 to play and didnt stop that offense..

Is it Gareets fault the rams game that somehow the payers couldn't tackle? i mean he wasnt the ones being ran over by 2 RBS no longer on that team, we lost by 8 on the road, i question those players beign our of posotion or given about 50% of effort it takes to tackle big RBs with head of steam and mosve ot if they and put an arm out.. what was that garett told them in TO to not tackle and be soft? alot of those payers with shiny new deals and Garett gone..

No one saying getting rid of garett was wrong or wants him back but dismissing the players lack of execution or a history of makig the big mistake at the critical part of the game..theres a lot of players on this roster that fold under pressure in the big moments and getting paid for what they did against soft teams.. none have stepped up when it mattered..

rocyaice said:

What a odd question. Like at the spoint in time who even thinks about Garrett? He's gone. Moved on. I Forget he's even in NY at times. I have a hard time thinking a real Cowboy fan even thinks about him at this point when we have McCarthy now. If McCarthy goes on to go 0-16 then maybe I can see it but as of now? I don't see it.

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It's a bit tricky to me.

I have to admit Garrett could get this team to win spectacularly.

Take our last game of the season against the Skins. We were still contending and just milled them.

We could have gotten lucky and made the playoffs that day but Philly would not help us.

Before that we lost to Philly with a miserable game against them.

The week before that, we obliterated our opponent and looked ready to run the table.

I want to blame Garrett all the way but logic said "no".

The players have to take a larger share because they are being paid, too. They did not perform. They play the game.

They have to beat the man across from them every week. Not Garrett.

So some fans are not clear yet what has happened.

This is not like when Campo left. It was really clear he was temporary.

Garrett? Not so much.

JW82 said:

Listening to The Fan and here them discussing this and getting fan texts saying this staff is not better than the last one.. LMAO! Are these the same folks who feel the Earth is flat by any chance?

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There’s no guarantees this staff is better. We can’t assume anything until we see the product on the field. The last time McCarthy was a head coach he finished with back to back losing seasons and got fired. He didn’t even make it through his final season before getting fired. Not even Garrett and his staff had back to back seasons like that. I don’t assume anything with players or coaches until I see how we perform.

Even now there are fans that still think Garrett is just as good as some SB winners? After nearly a decade and a half of garbage management and choking on a regular basis? The guy has been a curse on this team.

Redball Express said:

It's a bit tricky to me.

I have to admit Garrett could get this team to win spectacularly.

Take our last game of the season against the Skins. We were still contending and just milled them.

We could have gotten lucky and made the playoffs that day but Philly would not help us.

Before that we lost to Philly with a miserable game against them.

The week before that, we obliterated our opponent and looked ready to run the table.

I want to blame Garrett all the way but logic said "no".

The players have to take a larger share because they are being paid, too. They did not perform. They play the game.

They have to beat the man across from them every week. Not Garrett.

So some fans are not clear yet what has happened.

This is not like when Campo left. It was really clear he was temporary.

Garrett? Not so much.

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The thing about this team last year is they had plenty of chances to win his division. They just kept losing. And the only reason it even took as long as it did was the Eagles kept losing too until it came time to face us. Garrett could've been fired on Thanksgiving for that performance and it would've been justified IMO.

I challenge anyone to find a more experienced staff than the one we have.

Big_D said:

Even now there are fans that still think Garrett is just as good as some SB winners? After nearly a decade and a half of garbage management and choking on a regular basis? The guy has been a curse on this team.

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It's this weird phenomenon. Ex-players and coaches get propelled into legend status after they leave.

I myself can't see 2 playoff wins in a decade as anything else but falling short.

Sounding like some fans are going to enjoy disappointment more with this HC than the last.

I’m fired up that Mediocre is going to look much better with this HC. Lol

Cause fans didn’t like how it looked with our last HC compared to the previous ones. They enjoyed disappointment with Wade, Bill, Campo and Chan more than Jason.

At some point maybe fans will look to blame someone besides the coaching. Naaaaaaa

It's interesting to see fans willing to suggest that as GM Jerry did a great job building the team and talent so they can say Garrett screwed it all up. Apparently Jerry's only shortcoming is in picking coaches, but on the player side he does a great job.

Do we really believe this?

The truth is, mediocrity has pretty much been the baseline with Garrett as coach, and Jerry has contributed to that as well. There have been individual seasons that were outliers - most of which resulted in more success and hope for a deep playoff run, but even in those years we ended up being good, but not good enough. Then there was the crash of 2015, which falls largely on Garrett and the coaching staff. It's understandable that there would be a notable drop off when Romo went down, but not the kind of collapse that happened. Garrett failed horribly trying to adjust to an adverse condition, and that is part of what separates an average coach from a very good coach.

I’d uh.....you know- like to actually see the team play before I pine for 8-8 again.

Aerolithe_Lion said:

I don't disagree with parting with Jason. But was there really no better candidate than Mccarthy?

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It's not like there's a dozen coaches who have won a Super Bowl out there...

Super_Kazuya said:

Objectively, McCarthy is a better coach. He has a higher winning percentage, more wins, and more playoff wins than Garrett.

Of course, he has also been a worse coach than Garrett, objectively, since 2012 with 2 fewer wins from then until 2018... which certainly seems to indicate that he does not have a magical power to just be good whenever he wants and overcome the limitations of his roster and GM.

Mike McCarthy meet Jerry Jones.

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And this really is the bottomline. Can McCarthy accomplish what the previous coaches this era have not with Jerry?

I can only think of one person here at this site who was head over heels in love with Garrett. He is about the only one I can think of who would still want Garrett as HC.

ninja said:

I can only think of one person here at this site who was head over heels in love with Garrett. He is about the only one I can think of who would still want Garrett as HC.

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Garrett's wife?

JW82 said:

Listening to The Fan and here them discussing this and getting fan texts saying this staff is not better than the last one.. LMAO! Are these the same folks who feel the Earth is flat by any chance?

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Me!!!! Me!!!!! Me!!!!! I love Garrett!!! He doesn't suck!!!!

Streetwise said:

It's this weird phenomenon. Ex-players and coaches get propelled into legend status after they leave.

I myself can't see 2 playoff wins in a decade as anything else but falling short.

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it starts with coaching. I know this is some ridiculous knock on Romo like Jerry making the worst possible coaching decision he could make in 2007, then again in 2010 is somehow his fault. But weirdly enough not Daks fault right now. Or others like Zeke, Lawrence, Martin, Frederick, Witten. etc. On and on it goes. All guys who won absolutely nothing. Pay them top dollar cause they’re obviously not the problem?!