I think the team is getting ready to make a big change at QB

Dorsett33 · Apr 6, 2020

I read these post and say....cabin fever is real! :laugh:

irving · Apr 6, 2020

Not happening

Nav22 · Apr 6, 2020

Creating a “look at me!” thread when you could’ve easily replied to a number of other Dak-related threads is for females.

Terrible thread by a terrible poster.

JMech · Apr 6, 2020

Just stop for everyone's sake.

Redball Express · Apr 6, 2020

Jarv said:
Dak is getting paid 27 million this year under the tag since a few top QBs renegoiated their deals. That's a fair price since it is the average of the top 5 paid QBs. For a long term deal he should be getting top ten money, IMHO, not Wilson money.

We can win with Dak, but need a team around him. Had to build a team around him if he's paid the highest QB salary in the NFL. I think Dak made a big mistake when he chose his agent.

Below is a snippet from the linked article.

https://thelandryhat.com/2020/04/06/dallas-cowboys-dak-prescott-not-franchise-quarterback/2/

How a quarterback wins might be just as important as how many wins the quarterback has. During the 2019 season, Prescott feasted on inferior teams and struggled against stronger competition.

Against teams with winning records, Prescott had two wins in eight games. Against teams with 0.500 or worse records, Prescott had six wins in eight games.

So you would hope your franchise quarterback has at least a 0.500 record against teams with winning records. For his career, Prescott has a 0.433 winning percentage.

Brady, Lamar Jackson, and Jimmy Garoppolo have winning percentages higher than 0.680 against teams with winning records since Prescott entered the NFL. Marcus Mariota, Ben Roethlisberger and Alex Smith are the only other quarterbacks from the fourteen franchises with records of 0.500 or better against winning teams.

Drew Brees, Russell Wilson, Jared Goff, and Patrick Mahomes, while under 0.500, have better records than Prescott. Prescott sits in the eleventh place for winning percentage against winning teams.

Prescott’s record against teams with 0.500 records or worse is relatively better. His 0.794 winning percentage places him ninth on the list, two slots higher than his record against winning teams.

His overall winning percentage is good for tenth in the past four years. This paints a much different picture when considering Prescott’s winning effectiveness. He has won a lot of games but he barely wins games at a rate to place in the top ten.

I always get a kick at the dichotomy of fans here.

Some need stats and go to Google to look up stats to support their points.

Others just blurt out what they think they see or interpreted. That's me.

So the above is really good stuff and makes one pause.

Nice job.

My analogy here is deciding what to do at QB is like Buying a New Car.

You decide it's time so you start looking at car lots as you drive around.

You finally stop, get out and kick tires. The salesman gets you and asks questions..

How much to spend, the style, the usage, etc.

You will not tell him what you really want or can spend so you talk about your trade in value.

What's MY car worth?

In the meantime, you imagine yourself in a Corvette and how you look in it.

Consider the cost, the extra insurance, the expenses to fix it, the gas mileage, etc.

Then the salesman shows you a lesser car that is 4 door, plenty of room for everybody, lower payments and on and on.

They run your credit. You can afford anything on the lot.

What do you do?

This is precisely the same thing b/w the team and our player.

Do we pay $250/mon. or $400/month.

Both will get you to work and bring the groceries home.

Which one?

Tough decision.

Me, I take the $250 car and save my money for other toys.

Meaning I let Dak go and find a new QB and spend the money on upgrade players.

But others will say you only live once and take the $400 car and extra costs.

Meaning you sign and pay Dak what he wants and accept the risks involved.

So see..this discussion is simple if you want it to be or as complicated as you want.

Whichever.

Them · Apr 6, 2020

..Pffftttt...A lot of speculation there!...They probably need more competition at the b/u QB spot, but as far as the starter...it "Will be Dak!"...IMMHO!!!...

VACowboy · Apr 6, 2020

Redball Express said:
Or they will draft a QB high and withdraw the Tag on Dak and use his money elsewhere

No way they let Dak walk.

Redball Express · Apr 6, 2020

morasp said:
Other than the video the original post mostly seems like speculation.

I think it's called investigation.

You are ok with that or no.?

Do I have to be named Kiper and then you might read this as possible?

Merely talking here.

jujoboys · Apr 6, 2020

Redball Express said:
I think the team is getting ready to make a big change at QB.

I think they have gone as far as they want to risk the team with Dak.

Aaron Roger's or Drew Brees he is not.

Quietly Dallas is looking at their options I believe.

They leaked that video clip of Jones interviewing a top QB in the draft the other day.

Clearly this is a message to Dak and his agent. Come to reasonable terms..

Or they will draft a QB high and withdraw the Tag on Dak and use his money elsewhere.

I do not think they are bluffing. Jerrah and team are going to get back control of the team for McCarthy going forward.

I think the team is willing to dance with Dak.

But I do not think they are willing to follow his lead.

McCarthy is now in charge. Not Garrett. Garrett was a pushover. McCarthy is a rock.

So while alot of us want to play draft experts and debate DBs and DL as our top picks..

QB maybe the real position needing a decision.

BTW-I am not looking for a fist fight here over Dak. Just observations from you guys about the team thinking.

That is all.

You may return to your regularly scheduled reruns on TV.

Comments?

I think you are going to end up being very disappointed. Dak will be the QB for years to come. No expert is projecting Jalen Hurts as a starting QB. He has back up QB written all over him. Cooper Rush should be the one that is sweating that interview. If Dallas were serious about moving on from Dak you would hear trade talk and you would be hearing about interviews that Dallas has set up with Jordan Love, Justin Herbert, etc. Actually, Dallas would probably have been discussing the possibility of trading Dak prior to free agency and prior to most of the teams filling their QB need. Also, if Dallas were interested in trading Dak then they would not have put the exclusive franchise tag on him. They would have just put the regular tag on him and hoped like heck that someone signed him so they could get the 2 first round picks.

Redball Express · Apr 6, 2020

ThemDangMartians said:
..Pffftttt...A lot of speculation there!...They probably need more competition at the b/u QB spot, but as far as the starter...it "Will be Dak!"...IMMHO!!!...

I am just shaking the tree and connecting dots.

Everybody sees things differently.

I just think something is up.

Real or smokescreen.

The fun is figuring it out.

No?

OmerV · Apr 6, 2020

ABQCOWBOY said:
Makes a lot of difference, in terms of contract. I mean, if you know that you don't have one of those guys and you like options in FA or the Draft that you feel might provide similar results, then you know that a draft pick or the right deal will save cap. That means you can improve the team in other areas. That's significant if you don't have one of those guys that everybody believes are can carry a team from the QB position.

If that's what he's saying then he actually is saying that being Brees/Rogers level is a requirement to continue negotiating with Dak. In any case, I very much doubt his suggestion that the Cowboys are nearing the point of withdrawing the tag and walking away from Dak. I doubt they would feel comfortable assuming the #17 overall pick would be as good or better than Dak. Even with Dak not being Rodgers or Brees, the odds aren't very high of even getting a Dak level QB with that pick. There are a lot of Paxton Lynch and Blaine Gabbart level guys that get drafted.

morasp · Apr 6, 2020

Redball Express said:
I think it's called investigation.

You are ok with that or no.?

Do I have to be named Kiper and then you might read this as possible?

Merely talking here.

Thanks, don't get defensive I'm not calling you out was just wondering if you had heard something in addition to the video like they had contacted this team and discussed this trade..

joshjwp · Apr 6, 2020

jazzcat22 said:
And if Dak is worth 2 1sts round picks, why in the heck would you trade him. That tells me if he is worth that much, then he is worth taking a team to the SB.
Just makes no sense at all.

I don't think he's worth 2 1s but I think is probably a GM dumb and desperate enough to do it.

Redball Express · Apr 6, 2020

jujoboys said:
I think you are going to end up being very disappointed. Dak will be the QB for years to come. No expert is projecting Jalen Hurts as a starting QB. He has back up QB written all over him. Cooper Rush should be the one that is sweating that interview. If Dallas were serious about moving on from Dak you would hear trade talk and you would be hearing about interviews that Dallas has set up with Jordan Love, Justin Herbert, etc. Actually, Dallas would probably have been discussing the possibility of trading Dak prior to free agency and prior to most of the teams filling their QB need. Also, if Dallas were interested in trading Dak then they would not have put the exclusive franchise tag on him. They would have just put the regular tag on him and hoped like heck that someone signed him so they could get the 2 first round picks.

Moving parts, baby.

And I have no idea exactly what Dallas is going to handle it.

And yes, Cooper Rush should be on his toes, too.

But even as you say..

the FACTS are the Exclusive Tag only controls Dak one year if I understand it correctly.

If there is nobody capable of taking over for Dak if they can not agree on his deal..

it sure would make things alot easier if they drafted the QB now incase he is needed.

I am merely connecting dots and thinking here.

No need to panic if it does not meet your sensibilities.

Not at all.

BigD5 · Apr 6, 2020

Redball Express said:
I think the team is getting ready to make a big change at QB.

I think they have gone as far as they want to risk the team with Dak.

Aaron Roger's or Drew Brees he is not.

Quietly Dallas is looking at their options I believe.

They leaked that video clip of Jones interviewing a top QB in the draft the other day.

Clearly this is a message to Dak and his agent. Come to reasonable terms..

Or they will draft a QB high and withdraw the Tag on Dak and use his money elsewhere.

I do not think they are bluffing. Jerrah and team are going to get back control of the team for McCarthy going forward.

I think the team is willing to dance with Dak.

But I do not think they are willing to follow his lead.

McCarthy is now in charge. Not Garrett. Garrett was a pushover. McCarthy is a rock.

So while alot of us want to play draft experts and debate DBs and DL as our top picks..

QB maybe the real position needing a decision.

BTW-I am not looking for a fist fight here over Dak. Just observations from you guys about the team thinking.

That is all.

You may return to your regularly scheduled reruns on TV.

Comments?

Think less. Post even less

Cowboysheelsreds053 · Apr 6, 2020

ClappingCarrot said:

LLLOOOLLL

Cowboysheelsreds053 · Apr 6, 2020

KJJ said:
Redball you seem to be losing it more and more with every thread you post.

LLLOOOLLL, I AM DYING!

sean10mm · Apr 6, 2020

I think the Cowboys actually want to give Dak a very big deal, contrary to a lot of peoples' wishes here. But I think they have in the back of their mind that if he plays under the tag, it's hardly the worst thing in the world.

If he plays great under McCarthy in 2020, it gives him more leverage for an absolute top money contract than he has now... but since he earned it in that hypothetical scenario, who cares? You just give it to him.

If he doesn't, the team is off the hook and can move on with no strings attached, which is what everyone here is crying about wanting anyway.

DallasEast · Apr 6, 2020

Redball Express said:
I think the team is getting ready to make a big change at QB.

I think they have gone as far as they want to risk the team with Dak.

Aaron Roger's or Drew Brees he is not.

Quietly Dallas is looking at their options I believe.

They leaked that video clip of Jones interviewing a top QB in the draft the other day.

Clearly this is a message to Dak and his agent. Come to reasonable terms..

Or they will draft a QB high and withdraw the Tag on Dak and use his money elsewhere.

I do not think they are bluffing. Jerrah and team are going to get back control of the team for McCarthy going forward.

I think the team is willing to dance with Dak.

But I do not think they are willing to follow his lead.

McCarthy is now in charge. Not Garrett. Garrett was a pushover. McCarthy is a rock.

So while alot of us want to play draft experts and debate DBs and DL as our top picks..

QB maybe the real position needing a decision.

BTW-I am not looking for a fist fight here over Dak. Just observations from you guys about the team thinking.

That is all.

You may return to your regularly scheduled reruns on TV.

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Redball Express said:
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RS12 · Apr 6, 2020

It would be the smart move which is why I don't believe it is happening.

I think the team is getting ready to make a big change at QB

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