Kavon Frazier says "Kris Richard may have had his hand forced by Garrett"

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His comments also reinforce what everyone on here has been saying about the simplicity of Marinelli's defense as well.
 
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johneric8 said:
I will avoid getting roped into insults brother, but I will say that from the start I believe what I'm saying based on pretty strong evidence from how things just naturally unfolded with the Cowboys. And to answer your question on how a head coach can interfere it's really quite simple. If your owner takes away parts of your responsibility as a manager or coach and you violate his wishes you are in fact interfering with his request. And if you need facts it was Jones himself that came out and said to Kellen Moore after he was hired that if anyone did indeed not give you your space to control the offense or implement what you wanted to please let him know. This was said by Jerry himself on one of the local radio shows! This isn't conspiracy, this was Jones laying down guidelines that he wanted Kellen to have full reign to work. Why would Jones make this remark? He did so because he know Garrett's tendencies would make it difficult to let go.
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lol, Jerry did not say anything of the sort. Jason Garrett was the head coach and Kellen Moore was under him in the hierarchy. Also, your retelling of events is warped... Garrett gave up (or was stripped of, whatever) the additional duties of being offensive coordinator in addition to being the head coach. He never had any of his head coaching duties altered.

You seem to live in a weird fantasy world and it's hard to keep track of all of the weirdness you are creating. Jerry saying that Kellen basically reports directly to him and not Garrett seems like it would be quite the story, so please provide the source. And stop taking any weird drugs while you're at it.

Edit: I found what you are talking about, I can't source it because it's from a banned site. Jerry is clearly joking when he says it (article says he said it with a smile). He does mention that he does want Moore to have big input and have his ideas taken seriously, and if not to "call me". But it's a laughable stretch that it's some kind of announcement that Kellen does whatever he wants and can not be interfered with by the head coach of the team.
 
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stasheroo said:
You shouldn't waste your time.
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you right he shouldn't, its asinine for him to say it change when, Frazier who was on that defense and in those defensive rooms says it was the same.
 

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Frazier said:
He (Frazier) said that one thing people outside the team don't realize is how Prescott "had that dog in him" from the first day.
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My son, who plays college football, talks about this a lot. If you don't have that "dog" in you, it's hard for the players who DO to respect you. My son told me both in high school and college what guys have that "dog" in them and those who don't.

So I take Frazier's comments as genuine. That's one of those insights you get from people who are in the locker room.
 
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Super_Kazuya said:
lol, Jerry did not say anything of the sort. Jason Garrett was the head coach and Kellen Moore was under him in the hierarchy. Also, your retelling of events is warped... Garrett gave up (or was stripped of, whatever) the additional duties of being offensive coordinator in addition to being the head coach. He never had any of his head coaching duties altered.

You seem to live in a weird fantasy world and it's hard to keep track of all of the weirdness you are creating. Jerry saying that Kellen basically reports directly to him and not Garrett seems like it would be quite the story, so please provide the source. And stop taking any weird drugs while you're at it.

Edit: I found what you are talking about, I can't source it because it's from a banned site. Jerry is clearly joking when he says it (article says he said it with a smile). He does mention that he does want Moore to have big input and have his ideas taken seriously, and if not to "call me". But it's a laughable stretch that it's some kind of announcement that Kellen does whatever he wants and can not be interfered with by the head coach of the team.
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Look man I appreciate you looking up and finding the past exerts with Jones talking about Kellen I really do, but lets look at this realistically for a second. I'm sure you and I both agree that Garrett was hanging on by a minuscule thread in 2019 and it was known it was his NFC championship or bust year right? Having said that, don't you think there was tons of pressure on him to either crap or get off the pot? My personal opinion after gathering facts points me to believing that Garrett took a big backseat and was a rah rah guy most of the year with the exception of the times he pushed his narrative on Kellen Moore. This is the only thing that makes sense to me to see a team for a few weeks attack weaknesses and then to see it a week later run up the middle and forget about motion completely. It defied reality for me quite honestly and the only thing that I could surmise is that there was some serious struggles with agreeing on the gameplan, I mean it showed on the coaches faces.

We can disagree that is fine, but I don't feel I'm subscribing to conspiracy theories, I feel like I'm going on what I saw play out week after week and I'm not the only one who feels that way. Like I said before I strongly feel as I do not for shock but realistically.
 
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Whyjerry said:
KR hasn’t gotten another job correct? Please correct me if I am wrong. 40 years old, Fired by Seattle and they know what they are doing. Brought to Dallas as some sort of savior. 2 seasons and he was totally exposed. Just because you are emotional it doesn’t make you a great coach. Richard just isn’t very good.
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very true. the staff was full of overrated feuding charachters with micro managment , and even dual management happeing all over . Richard true potential may not be realized as there were many decision makers like marineli and garret sticking their nose. bottom line , garrett had. a weak personality to hold off jerry at some crucial junctions , plus his football concept and strategy is weak , simplistic , and kind of stubborn . Garrett should have been fired in 2014 max , jerry is accountable for this.
 
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johneric8 said:
We've all speculated about Garrett interfering with scheme or inserting himself and his ideologies out of fear for his job or not being able to stand seeing other coaches be successful without his help, well Kavon Frasier just alluded to this.

"Frazier also brought up how Richard relied almost exclusively on Cover 3 and man, when in his first two years the defense had also used a lot of Cover 2 and 4. For those who remember that far back, it was reminiscent of how the very complicated Rob Ryan defense keep coming apart back when he was the DC. Although he wasn’t as sure about this, he also thought that Richard may have had his hand forced in some ways by Garrett or even the ownership in some decisions."

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Garrett wanted our precious bodily fluids. I bet you can spell Target with the letters in his name.
 
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rocyaice said:
I don't know or care what happened in Seattle. You have a player here telling you what happened and you are doubting it. I don't know what to tell you. What happened in Seattle is moot.
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It would mean more if Kavon Frazier was more than a special teams guy and 3rd string safer

Sounds to me like they're friends
 
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DuncanIso said:
Ask Manning about KR.
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Of course, KR was the DB coach with a defensive backfield that included Earl Thomas, Kam Chancellor and Richard Sherman, so are we sure it just appeared he was a great coach because of the talent level he had? Brandon Browner was no slouch either.
 
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JohnsKey19 said:
Agreed.It never was going to work.

I'd love to hear some more stories from the past season. Sounds like it was a disaster behind the scenes.
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You could see that on the field.......it's like when your 6 year old shows you their drawing. " Look, mom!"

"What a nice giraffe!"

"It's a cat..........."
 

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johneric8 said:
Look man I appreciate you looking up and finding the past exerts with Jones talking about Kellen I really do, but lets look at this realistically for a second. I'm sure you and I both agree that Garrett was hanging on by a minuscule thread in 2019 and it was known it was his NFC championship or bust year right? Having said that, don't you think there was tons of pressure on him to either crap or get off the pot? My personal opinion after gathering facts points me to believing that Garrett took a big backseat and was a rah rah guy most of the year with the exception of the times he pushed his narrative on Kellen Moore. This is the only thing that makes sense to me to see a team for a few weeks attack weaknesses and then to see it a week later run up the middle and forget about motion completely. It defied reality for me quite honestly and the only thing that I could surmise is that there was some serious struggles with agreeing on the gameplan, I mean it showed on the coaches faces.

We can disagree that is fine, but I don't feel I'm subscribing to conspiracy theories, I feel like I'm going on what I saw play out week after week and I'm not the only one who feels that way. Like I said before I strongly feel as I do not for shock but realistically.
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Yeah, it was really weird, and not in a good way.

It really did appear that Moore was let go for the first 3 games, then reigned in. It doesn't make sense, and very hard to believe, but that is sure what it looked like.
 
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I think once it set in that Garrett's fate was on the line for this season, he wasn't going to let anyone else run the offense. Not even someone like Moore, who's more competent than Jason is.
 

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Batman1980 said:
I think once it set in that Garrett's fate was on the line for this season, he wasn't going to let anyone else run the offense. Not even someone like Moore, who's more competent than Jason is.
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I generally don't put much credence in stuff like this, but that is just what it looked like.

I found MO's intro year as an OC confusing, and this appears to be the why of it.
 
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