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He has Josh Norman on an All Time list lolPP better than Champ Bailey? C'moooooooon.
That's some major recency bias.
He has Josh Norman on an All Time list lolPP better than Champ Bailey? C'moooooooon.
That's some major recency bias.
That's right,, its was like we got tired of chasing the next Charles Haley those three or four years earlier, late first pick busts like Kavika Pittman.. actually traded back in that draft in 96 and took Pittman at 37.We didn't have a first round pick that year from the Galloway trade. It was 2nd, 4th, and 6th.
The 1,2, and 3 you are seeing was the order picked not the round. Wiley was a 5th rounder.
We didn't have a first round pick that year from the Galloway trade. It was 2nd, 4th, and 6th.
The 1,2, and 3 you are seeing was the order picked not the round. Wiley was a 5th rounder.
Thanks for sharing.
i could name some true shutdown coverage CBs, Sanders of course,along with, Mike Haynes, Lester Hayes
- BTW, remember how Lester the Molester Hayes and Mike Haynes totally shutdown that hated " Fun bunch" Charlie Brown and Art Monk in the super bowl ?
But besides being the most flamboyant ,showboating CB, Prime Time had a tremendous knack for " baiting" the QB into thinking that WR he want to
throw to is open...he feint and give so much cushion in front of him that QBs think there's a big opening and the moment he unleashes his throw, Sanders
immediately jumps the route, picks off the ball ....and takes it the other way for a quick six.
i've never seen a CB do that to a science and art the way Deion did that.
That's what further adds to his repertoire as a pure shutdown coverage CB, and the very Best in History of NFL, imo.
i wasn't there back in the old school dayz of Diiccckk Night-Train Lane, Mel Blount or our own Cowboys' Mel Renfro, so i dunno what his return INT for TD skill set was like, .. but i was to see how the the likes of Deion, Lester, Mike Haynes, Darrell Green, etc.
In terms of pure man shut- down coverage, this is MY particular top 10 all time list:
1 Deion Sanders
2 Mike Haynes
3 Darrell Revis
4 Lester Hayes
5 Darrell Green
6 Richard Sherman
7 Rod Woodson
8 Aneas Williams
9 Patrick Peterson
10 Ty Law
Best of the Rest: Champ Bailey, Charles Woodson, Albert Lewis, Hanford Dixon, Frank Minnifield, Louis Wright, Josh Norman
You guys are forgetting that the Raiders had two: Lester Hayes and Michael Haines. Probably the best cornerback duo ever, although if Herb Adderly had had just one or two more years on him when Dallas got him, the Renfro Adderly duo would have been tough. Renfro's shut down of Paul Warfield in Super Bowl VI was a classic, but watch Hayes and Haines simply eliminate the WRs in their Super Bowl.Disagree overall, Also, are we talking for their whole career or for a certain amount of time.
I will say Deion was probably the most pure cover corner we have seen and better than the ones I list below who also could be considered Best of the Best corners in man coverage.
I could say at times, Peterson, Revis, Champ Bailey, Rod Woodson, Ty Law were all top of the game corners who locked down one side of the field. Just some off top of my head
Agree or Disagree?
The only Shut Down Corner in the history of the NFL was Deon Sanders!
Can be annoying as a analyst, but one hell of a cover corner!
no theres been at least one in every era..Dion was great but he wasn't alone..his greatness came from being able to play ST as an exciting returner and on offense..he was special BUT no way he was the only shut down corner is 100yrs of football..Agree or Disagree?
The only Shut Down Corner in the history of the NFL was Deon Sanders!
Can be annoying as a analyst, but one hell of a cover corner!
Agree or Disagree?
The only Shut Down Corner in the history of the NFL was Deon Sanders!
Can be annoying as a analyst, but one hell of a cover corner!
Jones was not a hsut down corner, he was solid in coverage but dude was not specail in any way..its why we let him walk..Ill take Reavis , Dion, or Green anyway.. daryl Green was one bad *** mofo hated him because he was our enemy but he played what 19years and still looked fast the day he retired..?The better question is would you rather have a shutdown corner like Bryon Jones, or a turnover machine corner who took risks like Revis.
Edit: Not saying Jones is a top notch shutdown corner but he definitely held his own, just never took risks and played it safe.
Agree or Disagree?
The only Shut Down Corner in the history of the NFL was Deon Sanders!
Can be annoying as a analyst, but one hell of a cover corner!
Wow.
Deion was the best corner ever, and Everson couldn't even stand in the same room.
Nobody could beat Deion. He literally got bored and coaches receivers during games on how to run routes. Isaac Bruce says he learned the position during games from Deion.
I didn't like him personally, but he's probably the best player I ever watched other than Jerry Rice.
There's not a ton of guys over the last few decades you would consider in this category.
Darrell Green, Rod Woodson, and Charles Woodson were outstanding corners, along with Sanders. Champ Bailey, and Ty Law were pretty amazing corners too. Then guys like Everson Walls and Eric Allen had some excellent seasons too. Think at one point any of these guys can get into the discussion.
If you let Sander speak in the 3rd person..Agree or Disagree?
The only Shut Down Corner in the history of the NFL was Deon Sanders!
Can be annoying as a analyst, but one hell of a cover corner!
I always thought of that term 'lockdown' as another word for a CB who could blanket you with his coverage, denying your skills to the offense.Isn’t “lockdown” corner an archaic concept that applied to a small era of the NFL? Does the modern NFL care if you stick your best cornerback on one side, never move him and pretend you’re locking down “half” of the field? Think about how smart route combinations attack man vs. the way offenses ran back on the 80s and 90s.
you are delussional.Deion was the most over-rated corner ever. Give me Everson Walls over the guy who was allergic to tackling.
Thanks for sharing.
i could name some true shutdown coverage CBs, Sanders of course,along with, Mike Haynes, Lester Hayes
- BTW, remember how Lester the Molester Hayes and Mike Haynes totally shutdown that hated " Fun bunch" Charlie Brown and Art Monk in the super bowl ?
But besides being the most flamboyant ,showboating CB, Prime Time had a tremendous knack for " baiting" the QB into thinking that WR he want to
throw to is open...he feint and give so much cushion in front of him that QBs think there's a big opening and the moment he unleashes his throw, Sanders
immediately jumps the route, picks off the ball ....and takes it the other way for a quick six.
i've never seen a CB do that to a science and art the way Deion did that.
That's what further adds to his repertoire as a pure shutdown coverage CB, and the very Best in History of NFL, imo.
i wasn't there back in the old school dayz of Diiccckk Night-Train Lane, Mel Blount or our own Cowboys' Mel Renfro, so i dunno what his return INT for TD skill set was like, .. but i was to see how the the likes of Deion, Lester, Mike Haynes, Darrell Green, etc.
In terms of pure man shut- down coverage, this is MY particular top 10 all time list:
1 Deion Sanders
2 Mike Haynes
3 Darrell Revis
4 Lester Hayes
5 Darrell Green
6 Richard Sherman
7 Rod Woodson
8 Aneas Williams
9 Patrick Peterson
10 Ty Law
Best of the Rest: Champ Bailey, Charles Woodson, Albert Lewis, Hanford Dixon, Frank Minnifield, Louis Wright, Josh Norman