Chris Mortensen’s Dak Contract Update

PAPPYDOG · Apr 16, 2020

Super_Kazuya said:
“Dak will be signed any day now.” - Dak slobberers going on nearly two years

Stash · Apr 16, 2020

big dog cowboy said:
I remember when that information came out. I thought, are they trying to make Dak mad? Because there is no way he would take any kind of deal like that.

It's a huge reason why the team and player have gotten to where we are today. I'd be pissed if they tried to play me for a sucker offering $25 million a year too.

But some fans can't believe that their Cowboys actually did such a thing and now we get attempts at revisionist history trying to make like it didn't happen.

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country · Apr 16, 2020

UPDATE: The deal is not done yet. Tune in for more details, later on this evening.

PAPPYDOG · Apr 16, 2020

817Gill said:
“According to ESPN NFL insider Chris Mortensen, Prescott's potential long-term deal saw "significant progress" recently. But one aspect continues to hold up the Cowboys' new contract with the 2016 NFL Draft's No. 135 overall pick in the fourth round.

"They had made significant progress, even as of 10 days ago," Mortensen said Monday afternoon on ESPN's SportsCenter with co-host Jay Harris. "The issue still seems to be terms, length of contract...

But they have closed the gap considerably and, of course, July 15 is a deadline to reach a long-term agreement. But the feeling I got — sometime after the draft, likely — is that a contract would be able to be completed by the Cowboys and Dak Prescott. But how things (go) in the draft — right now, that's the Cowboys' focus.“

I guess just more confirmation that it’s not the annual value but the years; thought I’d share. Mort also indicated that they’ll probably have it done shortly after the draft so looks like he’ll miss a few of these voluntary virtual offseason days.

Here's the latest photo of Dak going for contract Gold....

The Fonz · Apr 16, 2020

All I know years from now Cowboys will regret keeping him.

starman22 · Apr 16, 2020

blindzebra said:
BS. The offer they gave is geared to make him be well underpaid once the next wave of signings happened.

So they should pay him enough to ensure that he will still be highest paid even after the next wave of signings?

Not sure how they would swing that

Swagger · Apr 16, 2020

Historically Jerry offers a fair deal to pretty much every single player. If they don't taks

stasheroo said:
If the holdup is years, it's clearly the team demanding more years, not less.

That is not true at all. The Cowboys initial offer was far below the Wentz and Goff deals.

The Cowboys had no trouble reaping the benefits of having the cheapest starting quarterback in the league for the last four years. It's their own fault that they continued to employ a never-was head coach to squander that and every other advantage. All the while, Goff and Wentz banked 1st and 2nd overall pick money. Dak will never make that up.

Let me know when "being the good guy" pays the bills, or when Jerry Jones donates his entire half of the salary cap money to charity.

If the Cowboys didn't draft Prescott then who is to say he would have even been drafted after being arrested for a DUI?

Not to mention that he landed in the most advantageous offense a rookie quarterback has landed in...since I can remember which has ultimately put him in position for this huge contract.

Stash · Apr 16, 2020

Swagger said:
Historically Jerry offers a fair deal to pretty much every single player. If they don't taks

Is there more to this statement?

If the Cowboys didn't draft Prescott then who is to say he would have even been drafted after being arrested for a DUI?

No, if the Cowboys had their way, they would have traded up for Paxton Lynch. How's he doing right now? Or Conner Cook, who's he playing for?

Not to mention that he landed in the most advantageous offense a rookie quarterback has landed in...since I can remember which has ultimately put him in position for this huge contract.

And he succeeded. When the planned quarterback was broken and the backup got hurt too. The 3rd string guy stepped in, kept his cool, and ran with it. To the tune of outplaying both the #1 and #2 overall picks in that same draft. Two guys who got paid from the beginning, and have gotten paid AGAIN.

Drop the indentured servitude crap where Prescott should now be 'grateful' for being underpaid for four years and take whatever the Cowboys offer him.

starfan1 · Apr 16, 2020

AmericasTeam81 said:
Omg I wish they would come to an agreement fast. I’m tired of hearing about it.

I’m done venting now...

you do know that once they lock into a new deal you are going to hear about it even more? There will be a faction here that will not shut up about it. Every off target pass,every loss to a over 500 team and anything else they can conjur up

cowboy_ron · Apr 16, 2020

StuckMojo · Apr 16, 2020

Everyone knows that Jerry will eventually cave and overpay.

Swagger · Apr 16, 2020

stasheroo said:
Is there more to this statement?

Apologies as I started writing a post then didn't finish so disregard.

No, if the Cowboys had their way, they would have traded up for Paxton Lynch. How's he doing right now? Or Conner Cook, who's he playing for?

And he succeeded. When the planned quarterback was broken and the backup got hurt too. The 3rd string guy stepped in, kept his cool, and ran with it. To the tune of outplaying both the #1 and #2 overall picks in that same draft. Two guys who got paid from the beginning, and have gotten paid AGAIN.

Drop the indentured servitude crap where Prescott should now be 'grateful' for being underpaid for four years and take whatever the Cowboys offer him.

Disregard my first sentence as I started then didn't finish. Apologies.

The point about Paxton Lynch and Connor Cook is irrelevant. If the Cowboys didn't draft Prescott then we have no idea if he would have even been drafted.

He hasn't outplayed Carson Wentz and Goff has reached a Superbowl.

Prescott being underpaid during his rookie contract is again irrelevant with regard to his next contract. He could have got drafted by the Jets in the fifth round and would most likely be driving a lorry right now (nothing wrong with that but I'm sure he would prefer having the option of being paid $165 million over the next five years).

VACowboy · Apr 16, 2020

stasheroo said:
If the holdup is years, it's clearly the team demanding more years, not less.

Why is it the holdup the team being unreasonable for wanting more years and not Dak being unreasonable for demanding less?

That is not true at all. The Cowboys initial offer was far below the Wentz and Goff deals.

Combining the six years of base salaries at $63.503 million, the $30 million option bonus, the roster bonuses at a combined $28.1 million, and the signing bonus of $16,367,683, the deal has a total value of $137,970,683, or about $23 million per year over the full six years.

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/closer-look-details-carson-wentzs-new-contract-that-could-reach-153-million

From what I remember the Cowboys' initial offer was $30m per for five years, which really was $30m per for five years since it didn't get diluted by an existing contract. I'm really not trying to be argumentative. I'm not a contract expert. I just know what I read. If what NBC Sports says or my reading of it is incorrect I would genuinely love for someone to set me straight.

The Cowboys had no trouble reaping the benefits of having the cheapest starting quarterback in the league for the last four years. It's their own fault that they continued to employ a never-was head coach to squander that and every other advantage. All the while, Goff and Wentz banked 1st and 2nd overall pick money. Dak will never make that up.

What benefits did the team reap other than more room under the salary cap? You'll get no argument from me about the frustration and futility of the Garrett stupidity, but I'm not sure what Garret's ineptitude or the team's inability to win a SB while Dak was on his rookie contract has to do with Dak's money now. The fact is that Dak was a third-round draft pick and was paid like a third-round draft pick according to collectively bargained league rules. I know there are differing opinions on the matter but I think that if Dak wanted to be paid like the 1st or 2nd pick in the draft he should've played like it in college and it's not up to the Cowboys to make up for the fact that he didn't. Dak has played well in Dallas for four years and should be rewarded for that, and the Cowboys have offered him the biggest contract ever offered to an NFL player.

Let me know when "being the good guy" pays the bills, or when Jerry Jones donates his entire half of the salary cap money to charity.

"Being the good guy" playing quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys makes him an attractive product endorser and a ton of money, but whether he does that or not I don' think he's is gonna have a problem paying the bills. What do you mean by Jerry's half of the salary cap money?

Stash · Apr 16, 2020

Swagger said:
Disregard my first sentence as I started then didn't finish. Apologies.

None required. But thanks.

The point about Paxton Lynch and Connor Cook is irrelevant.

No, it's completely relevant, however unpleasant.

If the Cowboys didn't draft Prescott then we have no idea if he would have even been drafted.

And if they drafted the guys they mistakenly ranked way ahead of him, they would be screwed. That's the other side to that coin you don't want to have to acknowledge.

He hasn't outplayed Carson Wentz and Goff has reached a Superbowl.

Look into the actual stats and get back to me.

Goff's team reached that Super Bowl. The overall team. If you want to claim that he carried them there, why are all of his stats inferior to Prescott's? And how did Goff do in that Super Bowl?

Prescott being underpaid during his rookie contract is again irrelevant with regard to his next contract. He could have got drafted by the Jets in the fifth round and would most likely be driving a lorry right now (nothing wrong with that but I'm sure he would prefer having the option of being paid $165 million over the next five years).

Sorry, it's just another inconvenient truth that you would like to ignore, while thinking Prescott owes everything to the Cowboys.

You fail.

You can cover your own eyes and practice willful ignorance, just do it alone.

Stash · Apr 16, 2020

VACowboy said:
Why is it the holdup the team being unreasonable for wanting more years and not Dak being unreasonable for demanding less?

Because Dak holds the cards if that's the case. If he holds to his guns, guess what happens? He holds out, misses whatever offseason they do have, and then plays out one to two years under a tag before it's unmanagable for the Cowboys to keep him.

So I ask you again, does two years of control over the player look better than four years?

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/closer-look-details-carson-wentzs-new-contract-that-could-reach-153-million

From what I remember the Cowboys' initial offer was $30m per for five years, which really was $30m per for five years since it didn't get diluted by an existing contract. I'm really not trying to be argumentative. I'm not a contract expert. I just know what I read. If what NBC Sports says or my reading of it is incorrect I would genuinely love for someone to set me straight.

You can start here and go from there:

https://sports.yahoo.com/dak-presco...f-his-best-outings-as-a-cowboy-001752385.html

What benefits did the team reap other than more room under the salary cap? You'll get no argument from me about the frustration and futility of the Garrett stupidity, but I'm not sure what Garret's ineptitude or the team's inability to win a SB while Dak was on his rookie contract has to do with Dak's money now.

I explained it earlier, unlike the Rams and Eagles, the Cowboys already got their discount on their quarterback, for four years. That's over. And the player deserves whatever he can get.

The fact is that Dak was a third-round draft pick and was paid like a third-round draft pick according to collectively bargained league rules. I know there are differing opinions on the matter but I think that if Dak wanted to be paid like the 1st or 2nd pick in the draft he should've played like it in college and it's not up to the Cowboys to make up for the fact that he didn't.

The fact is that Dak was a fourth round draft pick. Start with that.

Dak has played well in Dallas for four years and should be rewarded for that, and the Cowboys have offered him the biggest contract ever offered to an NFL player.

Where are the definitive numbers about this? You're clearly believing what you want to and everything that paints the team in the best light.

"Being the good guy" playing quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys makes him an attractive product endorser and a ton of money, but whether he does that or not I don' think he's is gonna have a problem paying the bills. What do you mean by Jerry's half of the salary cap money?

That's how the revenue is divided by the NFL under the CBA. You should look into it.

BigD_95 · Apr 16, 2020

blindzebra said:
BS. The offer they gave is geared to make him be well underpaid once the next wave of signings happened.

say what? well underpaid ? The next signing of QB's are also better QB's than Dak. Even when the next wave happens he would still be around the 5th-10th highest paid QB which is actually about what he is in the NFL. Dak is not a top 5 QB. So the next wave would actually put his value where it belongs. His signing will put him over valued until the next wave gets signed.

sean10mm · Apr 16, 2020

Everybody here is afraid they'll be tied to Dak for too long.

Dak wants a shorter deal and management is fighting against that.

Pretty crazy.

Stash · Apr 16, 2020

sean10mm said:
Everybody here is afraid they'll be tied to Dak for too long.

Dak wants a shorter deal and management is fighting against that.

Pretty crazy.

Nah, they want it both ways.

"Dak's not worth it, but we should keep him for many years!"
:lmao:

Swagger · Apr 16, 2020

stasheroo said:
None required. But thanks.

No, it's completely relevant, however unpleasant.

And if they drafted the guys they mistakenly ranked way ahead of him, they would be screwed. That's the other side to that coin you don't want to have to acknowledge.

Look into the actual stats and get back to me.

Goff's team reached that Super Bowl. The overall team. If you want to claim that he carried them there, why are all of his stats inferior to Prescott's? And how did Goff do in that Super Bowl?

Sorry, it's just another inconvenient truth that you would like to ignore, while thinking Prescott owes everything to the Cowboys.

You fail.

You can cover your own eyes and practice willful ignorance, just do it alone.

All joking aside how is it relevant who the Cowboys might have selected instead of Prescott? The same could be argued about most NFL picks - teams will have a shortlist of players. Only difference here us that we all saw the workings out as we are run like a circus. I just do not see the relevance.

I acknowledge that if the Cowboys could have drafted another QB and one that would havr failed yet it's still irrelevant to these contract negotiations with Dak Prescott.

Yes Goff's team reached the Superbowl but that kind of answers your point about stats. Mark Sanchez has more playoff wins than Tony Romo so he must have been the better quarterback right?

Individual stats are often reflective of team stats or ar least a philosophy. Last season the team turned to a more pass offense based team. Despite Prescott's stats he was the quarterback of an offense that failed to produce many points vs teams with winning records (winning record of 1-6) yet statistically the team had the a top offense. So the offense wasn't good enough against good defences...who was the quarterback of the said offense?

To be fair your "you fail" quip did make me laugh!

Stash · Apr 16, 2020

Swagger said:
All joking aside how is it relevant who the Cowboys might have selected instead of Prescott? The same could be argued about most NFL picks - teams will have a shortlist of players. Only difference here us that we all saw the workings out as we are run like a circus. I just do not see the relevance.

Because it's the other side of the coin that you only want to see one way. You want to suggest that the Cowboys 'saved Dak Prescott' and that he'd be nobody without them. Conversely, where would the Cowboys be if they hadn't drafted Dak? Where would they be with Paxton Lynch? Or Conner Cook?

I acknowledge that if the Cowboys could have drafted another QB and one that would havr failed yet it's still irrelevant to these contract negotiations with Dak Prescott.

It's as much a part of it as you thinking that Prescott 'owes' the Cowboys anything.

Yes Goff's team reached the Superbowl but that kind of answers your point about stats. Mark Sanchez has more playoff wins than Tony Romo so he must have been the better quarterback right?

No, it says that teams make Super Bowls, not single players. It directly refutes your attempt to talk Dak down. Again, we can go and look at the three players' stats if you want to look worse here?

Individual stats are often reflective of team stats or ar least a philosophy. Last season the team turned to a more pass offense based team. Despite Prescott's stats he was the quarterback of an offense that failed to produce many points vs teams with winning records (winning record of 1-6) yet statistically the team had the a top offense. So the offense wasn't good enough against good defences...who was the quarterback of the said offense?

You can take year four out for all three of the quarterbacks and Dak still outperformed both. Your argument would still fail.

To be fair your "you fail" quip did make me laugh!

I'm glad that you didn't take things personally. It wasn't intended to be.

Chris Mortensen’s Dak Contract Update

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