Rumor: Dallas showing interest in Cardinals Christian Kirk?

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jaythecowboy said:
This seems more like a possibility after the draft if the board never falls right to take a receiver. Doesn't make much sense before the draft unless it is at a cheap price.
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Exactly. Let’s not forget Dallas received Tavon Austin, a former 1st Rd Wr, for a 6th on draft day

All I’m saying is.. it’s plausible. And Kirks experience would trump any rookie drafted. Unless of course your advocating a 1st-2nd Rd Wr.. which I’m not on that team. I’m on team defense.
 

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817Gill said:
You can’t just pick who you draft before it even starts lmao. Mims won’t be anywhere close to lasting till pick 51, he’s mocked in the bottom of the 1st to the early second. I like big slots as well but you can’t just count on us drafting a guy and him contributing, you have no idea how the draft or the player will shake out.

Where did you get this idea that Kirk is slow lol? He ran a 4.47 at the combine and now he’s average speed lol? Hmm I don’t know maybe watch the actual footage of him playing and you’ll see he’s one of the fastest players on the field at all times lol. His biggest calling card to date has been his deep threat ability; he can also run routes and is a lot more sure handed than Mims (can’t take another drop-prone WR). 700 yards in 13 games lmao good luck finding a 3rd round receiver with similar production, doesn’t matter how deep the class is it’s still a crapshoot past the top 15.
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Kirk is field fast. He's one of the reasons you don't use the 40 as a be all endall.
 
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817Gill said:
You can’t just pick who you draft before it even starts lmao. Mims won’t be anywhere close to lasting till pick 51, he’s mocked in the bottom of the 1st to the early second. I like big slots as well but you can’t just count on us drafting a guy and him contributing, you have no idea how the draft or the player will shake out.

Where did you get this idea that Kirk is slow lol? He ran a 4.47 at the combine and now he’s average speed lol? Hmm I don’t know maybe watch the actual footage of him playing and you’ll see he’s one of the fastest players on the field at all times lol. His biggest calling card to date has been his deep threat ability; he can also run routes and is a lot more sure handed than Mims (can’t take another drop-prone WR). 700 yards in 13 games lmao good luck finding a 3rd round receiver with similar production, doesn’t matter how deep the class is it’s still a crapshoot past the top 15.
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The extent of America’s Cowboy analysis is sorting the 40 times of the prospects.
 
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817Gill said:
You can’t just pick who you draft before it even starts lmao. Mims won’t be anywhere close to lasting till pick 51, he’s mocked in the bottom of the 1st to the early second. I like big slots as well but you can’t just count on us drafting a guy and him contributing, you have no idea how the draft or the player will shake out.

Where did you get this idea that Kirk is slow lol? He ran a 4.47 at the combine and now he’s average speed lol? Hmm I don’t know maybe watch the actual footage of him playing and you’ll see he’s one of the fastest players on the field at all times lol. His biggest calling card to date has been his deep threat ability; he can also run routes and is a lot more sure handed than Mims (can’t take another drop-prone WR). 700 yards in 13 games lmao good luck finding a 3rd round receiver with similar production, doesn’t matter how deep the class is it’s still a crapshoot past the top 15.
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You can load up your comments with LOLs all you want, it doesn't make what you say more viable. The guy has several recent foot/ankle injuries which are likely to recur again. It's likely why the Cardinals are shopping him around. But, hey, be another fool and trade for another team's injured players. It's not as if though we don't have enough of those currently on this team (/sarc).
 
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stasheroo said:
I'd sure hope they would.
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Im always wrong on these situations. Especially when they traded for Hopkins!

Watch him go to Philly for a 7th and the Cardinals give them Kirk and a pick lol
 
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cowboygo said:
I'd rather feature Jarwin in the passing game. Truth is, 120+ catches left with Cobb and Witten. The 3rd receiver is important in our offense, but it can be our tight end. Its been a long time since we've had an inexperienced guy manning the slot.

Last time we trotted out an inexperienced guy as the 3rd WR was in 2012 with Kevin Ogletree exploding week 1 against the Giants and ended up being passed by Dwayne Harris in the depth chart. That year, Witten and Dez both had over 1,000 yards and Miles Austin came close as well. Thats kind of the setup we have entering 2020, if Jarwin can take that step and catch 80+ balls.
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I'd like to see Jarwin and the 3rd WR split that 120. Plus have the RBs eating into it.. 69 catches between Zeke and Pollard needs to be higher.
 
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America's Cowboy said:
Yeah, let's follow everyone's lead and trade for WRs with foot/ankle problems. Very smart.
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Calm down.. it’s only speculation.

If your being reasonable, there is a point where Kirks value supersedes a late round draft pick. You’ve made it known, that apparently you wouldn’t trade one pick for him. Cool.

I’d advise not letting injuries shape your decision though. Kirk can back from that injury and played well for Arizona last year.

Besides, Amari Cooper had/has ankle injuries of his own... don’t think anyone on this forum is suggesting he’s done at this point of his career. You?

If had at the right price mind you (and no one has mentioned a possible player for player trade)..

Id be more than fine rolling out Cooper, Gallup, and Kirk as our three starters next year.
 
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xwalker said:
I don't see any reason the Cardinals would trade him away for a deal that would make sense for the Cowboys, especially in a deep WR draft.

Even if he is the 4th WR, he is also a punt returner and gadget player.

He started 13 of 13 games last season.

He had more catches per game than Fitzgerald.

The Cardinals TE with the most catches had 18...

Kliff Kingsbury seems more likely than most to use 4 WR sets as his base.
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After seeing the Texans trade Hopkins for a half empty bag of chips I’m no longer surprised at what teams will do if they have a player fall out of favor with them

Kirk wasn’t even drafted by King right?
 
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dwreck27 said:
After seeing the Texans trade Hopkins for a half empty bag of chips I’m no longer surprised at what teams will do if they have a player fall out of favor with them

Kirk wasn’t even drafted by King right?
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Correct.
 
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reddyuta said:
i dont know man,we can get serious Wr talent even in the 4th Rd in this draft and have 4 years control of the player.
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WR is a position that typically takes a year or two for a player to develop and really start to contribute.

There’s an argument to be made that allowing someone else to coach the guy up and then add him as a young veteran makes more sense than drafting your own.

There are always exceptions of course it’s sound thinking to do it this way.

With a veteran team poised to win now And two young quality veterans like Gallup and Cooper already on board, this type of move could solidify your receiving corp for the next two years and allow you to focus on the defensive side of the ball in the draft.

Also, we have perhaps four compensatory picks coming in 2021 from the FA we lost this year, so we have some future draft capital to play with.

mall thsr brig said, is *this* the WR that is able to make that contribution, I honestly don’t know. I’m certainly not an expert on the Cards offense.
 
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America's Cowboy said:
You can load up your comments with LOLs all you want, it doesn't make what you say more viable. The guy has several recent foot/ankle injuries which are likely to recur again. It's likely why the Cardinals are shopping him around. But, hey, be another fool and trade for another team's injured players. It's not as if though we don't have enough of those currently on this team (/sarc).
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Injuries would be a reason to not want him that makes sense, an argument that we can get a better guy in round 2 or 3 is much weaker. And if your response is as laughable as the previous one was, I will continue to LOL. Might even throw some lmao’s and haha’s your way too if I feel like it
 
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I’d rather draft a WR in a very deep class. Give me Bowden, Proche or Duvernay in the 4th, and let’s go.
 
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Also, I don’t know if this “rumor” for sure originated with him, but I first saw this floated by Fisher, who we all know throws crap against the wall, etc.
 
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Knotamus said:
Calm down.. it’s only speculation.

If your being reasonable, there is a point where Kirks value supersedes a late round draft pick. You’ve made it known, that apparently you wouldn’t trade one pick for him. Cool.

I’d advise not letting injuries shape your decision though. Kirk can back from that injury and played well for Arizona last year.

Besides, Amari Cooper had/has ankle injuries of his own... don’t think anyone on this forum is suggesting he’s done at this point of his career. You?

If had at the right price mind you (and no one has mentioned a possible player for player trade)..

Id be more than fine rolling out Cooper, Gallup, and Kirk as our three starters next year.
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Don't put words in my mouth. I said maybe a 4th or 5th round pick might do, but I still would have reservations against WRs with foot/ankle injuries.

As for Cooper, how was his health this past season? You know, that plantar fasciitis that hit him in preseason and evidently kept giving him problems throughout the season? If Cooper misses more time (or plays limited) this upcoming 2020 season once again because of his plantar fasciitis that has affected him since his college and Raiders days, would you be ok having not 1 single #1 WR talent left to play on the field? Gallup is no #1. He's a #2 type of receiver. The rest of the receivers are career backups. We've all seen how bad Dak and this Offense performs without a true #1 talented WR. Why not use our 1st round pick on someone like Mims, who is a true #1 talent and has size, speed and other intangibles, instead of picking up lesser talent that WOULD NOT help this Offense if Cooper gets injured again? Or is it too hard to think that far ahead?
 
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817Gill said:
Injuries would be a reason to not want him that makes sense, an argument that we can get a better guy in round 2 or 3 is much weaker. And if your response is as laughable as the previous one was, I will continue to LOL. Might even throw some lmao’s and haha’s your way too if I feel like it
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Read my last post above ^^^ to @Knotamus. You might learn something instead of sounding so foolish.
 
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