Video: Ceedee Lamb route running breakdown better than Jerry Jeudy?

big dog cowboy said:

It wasn't just Stephen who was saying the Cowboys were drafting players who were rated much higher than they were drafting. Everyone was.

Serious question, why would they need to build hype for anything?

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Sources like PFF and Dane rated their boards before DAL drafted.
They just liked the guys took because they were values on their boards.

CeeDee Lamb was on FOX Football Now yesterday and said he preferred playing the slot but doesn't care either way and is looking forward to blocking for Zeke.

To me it came down to fit and scheme, the Raiders wanted that Hill-type burner, the Broncos wanted a precise route runner to compliment Sutton and that left a hell of a player for Dallas.

Personally don't care where people rank him, can't wait to see what he brings to this offense.

Super_Kazuya said:

I was fine with the pick. I just don't magically think that Lamb is the best receiver in the draft because the Cowboys are draft geniuses and the other teams for some reason can't follow the enlightened BPA like the Cowboys can. I think those other two teams also think they got the best receivers, and we will see if they were right.

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I don’t think most thought he was the best
It was a toss up between him and Jeudy
I personally liked Jeudy more because he has more experience in the slot
But he was a high first round talent whether he was best or second best and we got him at 17
I didn’t want a WR because I felt defense was a bigger need
But once the defensive guys worth picking at 17 were gone he was the right pick

CalPolyTechnique said:

You seem to think the front office, scouts, and evaluators from each of the 32 teams are obligated to feel the very same way about any one particular player.

Feel free to explain how you know that.

BTW, you haven’t exhausted the list of realistic and plausible reasons why Lamb went after Ruggs and Jeudy. The reasons provided aren’t elaborate or wish casting, so Occam’s Razor doesn’t apply here; you’re simply drawing a simple unsubstantiated conclusion that flies in the face of draft history and demonstrated outcomes.

If you agree with the basic premise that not every team will feel the same about any one player (for a litany of different reasons) then you’ve undermined your point, so it will be interesting if you’ll go down with that ship.

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All we really know is that the Raiders and the Broncos had 1 WR rated higher than Lamb. We don't have any clue about the 29 other teams. So for somebody saying why was he 3rd, it is only a reflection of 2 teams boards or needs.

MarcusRock said:

I'll start off by saying I know absolutely nothing about these college kids that got drafted but if CeeDee Lamb is supposed to be the end-all, be all of this WR class and a can't miss prospect, then why was he only the 3rd receiver taken in the first round? I've seen others ask this but not seen any real explanation. Why did Ruggs and Jeudy go before him?

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It happens and means very little other than teams don't know what they are doing.

Just off the top of my head:

Jerry Rice was not the first WR taken the year he was drafted.
Randy Moss was not the first WR taken the year he was drafted.
Michael Irvin was not the first WR taken the year he was drafted.
Marvin Harrison was not the first WR taken the year he was drafted.

TwoDeep3 said:

Found this. Really interesting breakdown of Lamb's abilities as a route runner.

Enjoy.

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I posted this on a thread All 22 and no one liked it, I guess you got to be a well known member to get them views eh.

Might seem strange, but all 3 top WRS. Ruggs, Judy, Lamb, all some what unique, with Judy and Lamb being the most similar of the three in comparison, but they both are different in some aspects, but not as different as Ruggs is from the group.
Ruggs is an unbelievable talent, he is the guy that can take the top off a defense with his blazing 4.27 speed, but he also can catch the ball, he only had one drop,, that's 1 drop last year at Alabama. Al Davis is smiling down from above, that's what the Raiders always love, and Al gives a wink and a nod.. Ruggs is going to be really good, really fast.
Judy lined up across from Ruggs at Alabama, and a 4.45 guy, equally impressive, man has unbelievable ball skills and excellent, already polished route runner.
I would love to have either, and be just as happy.
So here is what I have to say, and you already know that I love both, but how much did both help each other?
Alabama had a great thing going there.
Why I love Cee Dee Lamb,, and why he was my number 1 WR in this draft class coming out, and why I was so excited when he slipped to 17.
Man took every opportunity he was given with Jalen Hurts tossing it somewhat in his direction,, just saying,, Lamb made Hurts look much better than Hurts was.
We stole Lamb.

DakPresgoat said:

Combine testing. Lamb is a very very good athlete for a receiver. But Jeudy and Ruggs had the more eye popping combine numbers. We have all see how that affects draft position.

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jblaze2004 said:

https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/ceedee-lamb/

Pretty cool website

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Thanks for these and to everyone who chimed in. Appreciate the input.

You can see how Ruggs' measureables leap out at you so I guess I get it when you think of Tyreek Hill-type potential.

Violent hips, lol.

For what it's worth, here were some of the Vegas (Caesar's) odds for who'd be drafted first:

First wide receiver drafted: CeeDee Lamb (-160), Jerry Jeudy (+145), Henry Ruggs III (+500)

MarcusRock said:

I'll start off by saying I know absolutely nothing about these college kids that got drafted but if CeeDee Lamb is supposed to be the end-all, be all of this WR class and a can't miss prospect, then why was he only the 3rd receiver taken in the first round? I've seen others ask this but not seen any real explanation. Why did Ruggs and Jeudy go before him?

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I don’t know-why was Kevin Dyson drafted ahead of Randy Moss?
Why was Tavon Austin drafted ahead of Deandre Hopkins?
Why were five wr’s picked ahead of Michael Thomas?

MarcusRock said:

I'll start off by saying I know absolutely nothing about these college kids that got drafted but if CeeDee Lamb is supposed to be the end-all, be all of this WR class and a can't miss prospect, then why was he only the 3rd receiver taken in the first round? I've seen others ask this but not seen any real explanation. Why did Ruggs and Jeudy go before him?

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Simple both had sub 4.5 speed, while Lamb was 4.51. All are great prospects but the Raiders fell in love with Ruggs blazing 4.27 speed as they always do. Jeudy was the 2nd most produtive receiver in that group and the Broncos liked his route running and fact he was coming from a winning program like Alabama. Sometimes teams just fall in love with one player over another for better or worse. Look how often it happens with 1st round QBs. All could end up being great receivers in the NFL, but otjer team's evaluations led to our gain.

CATCH17 said:

I had Lamb as my #1 WR but out of the 3 I felt he was the worst fit for our team.

I don’t see the best routes from Lamb. He kind of floats on his routes. That can be fixed.

He’s not a big separator and more of a catch radius guy. 50/50 & back shoulder catches. Amazing after the catch.

He’s in the Deandre Hopkins mold.

Jerry Jeudy is in the Antonio Brown mold. Quick sharp routes and can separate fast. He’s a step faster then Lamb as well.

I’m just worried Lambs strengths will not match Dak’s.

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I'm with you.

Zordon said:

I'm with you.

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I think 1 thing that will help Lamb is if he is a slot guy and he gets nickel corner/linebacker/safety matchups.

WR downfield blocking? Everyone needs to meet Coach Letterman. The most devastating WR downfield blocker ever known in the state of Georiga

MarcusRock said:

I'll start off by saying I know absolutely nothing about these college kids that got drafted but if CeeDee Lamb is supposed to be the end-all, be all of this WR class and a can't miss prospect, then why was he only the 3rd receiver taken in the first round? I've seen others ask this but not seen any real explanation. Why did Ruggs and Jeudy go before him?

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The same type of reason Shawn Merriman went before DeMarcus Ware. The same reason Taco Charlton went ahead of TJ Watt. The same reason some had Ryan Leaf over Peyton Manning.

Some team misevaluate. Some teams prefer different traits in different players.

Time will tell.

lambs routes, let me think lol

Elway drafted Jeudy because the Broncos were looking for someone to compliment Sutton. That was the tie breaker for them. If they didn’t have Sutton they probably draft Lamb.

JBS said:

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Higher than Chase Young?