Pentagon declassifies Navy videos that purportedly show UFOs

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UFO's, who knows? Aliens, who knows? Universe very big, seems that way. How big, who knows? If you want to get a sample look go play a game called space engine, it's free. After a short period of time playing this game most people's heads will be spinning in amazement. I've never been a telescope kind of person, but this game has me thinking about getting one.
 
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The thing I find most interesting about all of this is that the guy that used to work at Area 51 that got booted out because his wife was having an affair, which turned into an issue of, “National Security,” said that they found the discs doing archeological digs. That the technology was very very old.

Granted he also said they had an alien being but the Govt doesn’t acknowledge that so we will just stick to the, “Technology” for now. Maybe in another 50 years they’ll admit we have aliens, who knows. I’ve never seen one.

The govt slowly spoon feeds the populace information to prevent mass hysteria. They also do this to prepare the populace for what they are going to eventually start seeing more of regularly in the upcoming months and years.. Stay tuned for the next unveiling..

I just hope they don’t punk the world with Project Blue Beam or something similar...
 
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There are plenty of examples in which different agencies who are supposed to be working together fail to share critical information with each other. Information gets lost in the system or gets caught up in the bureaucracy of things. Those are agencies working together with a common goal. Now imagine an agency working in secret to develop and test new flying apparatuses. They try to keep information away from other agencies. Seems challenging, but not impossible. Seems more probable than Aliens. Adolescent Aliens on a joy ride seems more probable than Aliens studying the Earth.
 
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That's not even how...oh man, there are so many things wrong with this theory scientifically that it is truly inspired. Stars are hot balls of plasma made up mostly of Hydrogen and eventually Helium and less so other elements. So if enough heavier elements hit it, it won't crust over. Those heavier elements will sink to the middle due to a little known thing called gravity. If you tried to bombard it with water (or anything) to cool the surface, you're fighting the heat from underneath and it would have to pass through the more than million degree corona....even if it survived the corona, it can't just sit on the surface of a star since the surface is plasma..so gravity takes over and sink.

And that's only a LITTLE part of why the theory is wrong.


However, it would be a great alternate reality story.
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Hydrogen and helium huh?

Tell me what's the auto ignition temperature of hydrogen and helium? Because an element/atom/molecule cannot exist or be created in temperatures greater than its auto ignition temperature. So how can the sun be made up of gases that can't exist or be created at those temperatures? For instance, gasoline cannot be created or exist at 2000 degrees Fahrenheit.

I'd love to ask NASA that question.
 
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Oz-of-Cowboy-Country said:
Hydrogen and helium huh?

Tell me what's the auto ignition temperature of hydrogen and helium? Because an element/atom/molecule cannot exist or be created in temperatures greater than its auto ignition temperature. So how can the sun be made up of gases that can't exist or be created at those temperatures? For instance, gasoline cannot be created or exist at 2000 degrees Fahrenheit.

I'd love to ask NASA that question.
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The hydrogen isn't created in the star. Helium is created through fusion, as well as many other elements. The older the star, the more heavy elements are created.
 
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Runwildboys said:
The hydrogen isn't created in the star. Helium is created through fusion, as well as many other elements. The older the star, the more heavy elements are created.
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Objection your honor, speculation and hearsay. No one has been to the center of a star so no one can say what's going on at its core. Just like no one was alive when dinosaurs went extinct so no one can say what killed them. It's all just speculation so there theory has no more merit than mine. That's what I've been trying to get people to realize. Just because you believe in something does make it true. They thought Zues was real years ago, but that's not true. Just because NASA says it doesn't make it true.

If they knew what made the sun operate for millions and millions of years then why are we not replicating it. Why are we still using dams and nuclear power? Why is there still an energy crisis? Why, cause they don't know crap. They just guessing.
 
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Oz-of-Cowboy-Country said:
Objection your honor, speculation and hearsay. No one has been to the center of a star so no one can say what's going on at its core. Just like no one was alive when dinosaurs went extinct so no one can say what killed them. It's all just speculation so there theory has no more merit than mine. That's what I've been trying to get people to realize. Just because you believe in something does make it true. They thought Zues was real years ago, but that's not true. Just because NASA says it doesn't make it true.

If they knew what made the sun operate for millions and millions of years then why are we not replicating it. Why are we still using dams and nuclear power? Why is there still an energy crisis? Why, cause they don't know crap. They just guessing.
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Are you asking why we don't make another star?
 
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Runwildboys said:
Are you asking why we don't make another star?
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Basically yeah. A smaller less powerful one, about the size of a house, could run the whole city of Houston for the next 3,000 years. If they knew everything about a star, like they claim to know, then what's stopping them from replicating it? It is a hands off self rejuvenating power source. All nuclear power plants do is turn water into steam and let the steam turn the turbines. So how much steam could a mini-star produce?

The point is, if they knew exactly how the core of a star operates then, why continue to produce nuclear power and nuclear waste?
 
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Oz-of-Cowboy-Country said:
Basically yeah. A smaller less powerful one, about the size of a house, could run the whole city of Houston for the next 3,000 years. If they knew everything about a star, like they claim to know, then what's stopping them from replicating it? It is a hands off self rejuvenating power source. All nuclear power plants do is turn water into steam and let the steam turn the turbines. So how much steam could a mini-star produce?

The point is, if they knew exactly how the core of a star operates then, why continue to produce nuclear power and nuclear waste?
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Where do you suggest they get that much hydrogen, how do you suggest they collect it, where do you think they could put it, and how is Earth's gravity going to keep it from collapsing?...or are you thinking they should invent some type of "nuclear power plant"?
 
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Runwildboys said:
Where do you suggest they get that much hydrogen, how do you suggest they collect it, where do you think they could put it, and how is Earth's gravity going to keep it from collapsing?...or are you thinking they should invent some type of "nuclear power plant"?
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That is a great question. Where does the sun get that much hydrogen? That's the reason I think what NASA is saying about the sun is B.S.

A star can't create helium or hydrogen on its insides because the temperature is too great. And that's a fact according to their auto ignition temperatures. So if a theory has to throw a fact to the side then that theory is completely fictional, to me.

Does that make sense? If a theory kills a fact then that theory is false.
 
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Oz-of-Cowboy-Country said:
That is a great question. Where does the sun get that much hydrogen? That's the reason I think what NASA is saying about the sun is B.S.

A star can't create helium or hydrogen on its insides because the temperature is too great. And that's a fact according to their auto ignition temperatures. So if a theory has to throw a fact to the side then that theory is completely fictional, to me.

Does that make sense? If a theory kills a fact then that theory is false.
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I assume you know what a nebula is.
 
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Oz-of-Cowboy-Country said:
Hydrogen and helium huh?

Tell me what's the auto ignition temperature of hydrogen and helium? Because an element/atom/molecule cannot exist or be created in temperatures greater than its auto ignition temperature. So how can the sun be made up of gases that can't exist or be created at those temperatures? For instance, gasoline cannot be created or exist at 2000 degrees Fahrenheit.

I'd love to ask NASA that question.
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You do know that Nuclear fusion is a thing and has been proven, right? They can do it on Earth. They just can't get it self-sustaining enough yet to get more energy out of it than is put into it. With AI help, they believe they'll crack that within the next 5-10 years.
 
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This was an interesting listen. This pilot, David Fravor, was associated with one of the videos that just recently got declassified. When highly decorated and respected individuals in the military come out and say, "yeah, I saw something I can't explain", it really makes you think. I'm one to believe the universe is too vast to not have the possibility of life somewhere else in it, but, have they visited Earth? Hard to say. I've never personally seen anything that altered my perception on it one way or another. Seems odd they would harness the technology to traverse space (and possibly time) and they would want to stop by Earth and check us idiot humans out. Hell, they probably lock their UFO doors when they pass by Earth. haha

 
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If you believe these are UFO's take this into account...Living beings need nourishment. There vessels are too small to store the amount of food needed to travel billions of light years. And if they freeze themselves why go through the trouble of traveling this far, then just turn around and leave without making direct contact. So they are either very, very close or very stupid.
 
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