Twitter: Clay Mack says DB problem is due to scheme

Bowdown27 · Apr 29, 2020

SeanLee50 said:
When guys like Sam Darnold look like Montana and call out your scheme. Yeah. It’s crap

Bingo

Doomsday · Apr 29, 2020

Zordon said:
Those of you who don't know Clay Mack, he's a big-time DB coach/trainer based in DFW. He said he doesn't think its a personnel issue with the backend. He said when he trained the Cowboys DBs in the offseason the coaches were forcing them to do only one technique instead of coaching to their strengths.

Hard to buy that they actually believe that given how many DBs they have added to the roster this offseason.

I don't think they were too passive in coverage though, too many QBs playing pitch and catch with WRs underneath.

gmoney112 · Apr 29, 2020

"DB problem"

Honestly, I was more concerned with the Rams 2018, Packers 2019, Vikings 2019 (especially when they literally just ran the ball every single down of a drive 80+ yards for a TD).

DBs could have been better, but that was downright embarrassing.

ABQCOWBOY · Apr 29, 2020

DuncanIso said:
KRichard wasn’t the problem.

He was as much of a part of the problem as Marinelli or Linnehan or Garrett. I mean, I am not sure how you can argue otherwise. He was part of the problem IMO.

ABQCOWBOY · Apr 29, 2020

DuncanIso said:
KRichard ran the cover schemes.

but Marinelli/Garrett ran the teams defense.

Every team figured out that jacked scheme Marinelli ran.

This is not true. It was reported last year that Richard was running his own thing on the backend. He was responsible for DBs and LBs. Marinelli was responsible for the DL.

ABQCOWBOY · Apr 29, 2020

CyberB0b said:
Don't get too hyped up on Mike Nolan's scheme. He's a journeyman.

I agree with this. I am not all that excited about Nolan. I liked him a lot when he was younger but over the years, I've seen a lot of things from him that make me think he might not be the guy. I guess we'll see.

ABQCOWBOY · Apr 29, 2020

DuncanIso said:
to be fair, BJones only gave up 36 catches last season.

OK, this we agree on. I liked Jones a lot more then most on this board. JMO.

CalPolyTechnique · Apr 29, 2020

Clay Mack sounds like a character I KO’d in Mike Tyson’s Punchout.

CalPolyTechnique · Apr 29, 2020

CyberB0b said:
Don't get too hyped up on Mike Nolan's scheme. He's a journeyman.

100%

CowboyRoy · Apr 29, 2020

Idgit said:
The old Richard kick-step? How’d we ever get that one so wrong, I wonder?

Another blow back on the bad coaching. No surprise there.

CowboyRoy · Apr 29, 2020

TheCoolFan said:
Seems like defensive scheme was always the problem in the Garrett Era, even after replacing DCs and DB coaches. Garrett was clueless in building a staff

He was clueless, but he also didn't have full control. But lest be honest, he didn't get it because he didn't have the confidence of Jerry obviously. MM gets it right out of the gate.

And then Garrett pretty much just let his defensive coaches just do as they pleased. NO cohesion between offense and defense. You can tell with MM he is overseeing everything.

Idgit · Apr 29, 2020

stilltheguru said:
He wasn't the only coach we got wrong

Yep. It’s quite a list at this point.

Zekeats · Apr 29, 2020

Zordon said:
Those of you who don't know Clay Mack, he's a big-time DB coach/trainer based in DFW. He said he doesn't think its a personnel issue with the backend. He said when he trained the Cowboys DBs in the offseason the coaches were forcing them to do only one technique instead of coaching to their strengths.

Lol, can't wait to see this team, which now by the way has less talent, but with real coaching. Yes, less talent, Byron Jones, Robert Quinn, Travis Frederick. I hated that idiot and his coaching staff and their philosophy, they should have been removed 7 years ago. Not even that big a MM fan but at least he is a real HC with real staffs and ability.

viman96 · Apr 29, 2020

Twisted Dawg said:
Keep in mind the man who hired and promoted Marinelli, and who also hired Kris Richard. That's the root of the problem.

And keep in mind MM brought in who he wanted as well. Whether it was previously the root of the issue it may not be now.

jterrell · Apr 29, 2020

stasheroo said:
Not as simple as the kick-step technique not being a good one. Pete Carroll has had it working well for years in Seattle. But it definitely looks like some players embraced it and did quite well like Byron Jones, while other like Awuzie may have struggled with it. There is a history of some corners struggling to adjust to the technique and it sounds like that's what happened here.

But I am curious to see what Al Harris might do with the corners he has in Dallas. He coached both Marcus Peters and Steven Nelson in Kansas City and both have gone on to play quite well.

Yup. It elevates some guys but makes others redundant or nearly unusable.

We saw SEA CBs go get big money in FA to only end up out of the league in 23 years after leaving.

We also saw SEA start to struggle some at CB and eventually fire Richard.

Keep in mind they had a play-making top 10 overall pick at FS covering for CBs. They could mix Cover 1 HEAVILY in there with Earl.
Dallas really had to go almost all Cover 3.

Batman1980 · Apr 29, 2020

DuncanIso said:
to be fair, BJones only gave up 36 catches last season.

I hope Miami enjoys that when he's getting them 0 takeaways a season and getting posterized by #4 WRs.

jterrell · Apr 29, 2020

viman96 said:
And keep in mind MM brought in who he wanted as well. Whether it was previously the root of the issue it may not be now.

Rod didn't hire Richard. Rod was more than happy to just run his DL.
Dallas decision makers like McClay/Stephen/Jerry and Garrett made that call.
Same as they did on Kellen and Linehan.

Richard worked out great year 1.
But teams did adjust to the techniques and the defense became predictable.

Johnny23 · Apr 29, 2020

CouchCoach said:
Because he was responsible for the Legion of Boom, even though that secondary was picked by Carroll, his forte in D. And then Carroll tried to talk him into staying as the DC but he was having none of that, rather be a secondary coach in Dallas.

The Richard love and any Linehan love will always be a mystery to me. Posters were afraid Richard would go elsewhere, I was afraid he wouldn't.

Dan Quinn was the architect of that defense. Richards was a hanger on.

ABQCOWBOY · Apr 29, 2020

DuncanIso said:
because he created the LegionOfBoom and has a ring.

maybe that could be the reason.

To be honest, Richard didn't create the LOB. That was really Pete Carroll, Gus Bradley, Ken Norton and Jerry Gray. Seriously, you want to see where Legion Of Boom came from, find tape on the 1983 Texas Team. Jerry Gray was a All American CB on that team, along with Mossey Cade and Tony DeGrate. That team was a vicious Defensive Team and the DBs lead the way on that squad. I think they went 11-1, the only loss was in the Cotton Bowl against Georgia. Lost like 10-9 on turnovers late in the game. Really should have beaten Georgia in that game but they didn't. That team, that's where it all started, seriously. Gray would go on to be a Really good Pro and then join the Coaching Profession. He was in Seattle at the very start and then moved on to Tennessee but he taught it to Bradley and they took it forward.

JMO

KingintheNorth · Apr 29, 2020

Been saying it for years..Marinelli's (and Kiffin's) archaic scheme put too much stress on the Corners. Then the Front Office doubled down on the issue with untalented Safeties.

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