Twitter: Most accurate drop back passer in the NFL last year?

Prossman

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Dak be like.....
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Shoiwgun Baby!!!
 

Kolemmitt

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Rock...8-8. That's the argument. Ignoring everything else that composes a team, but Dak couldn't get his team above .500. It is a lame conclusion, but "8-8" will be their dark horse because what else gives them any perceived credence except this (their) flawed "expert" assessment?

When the game was on the line, did Dak return that punt for a TD? Did he block that field goal? Did he make that interception? That goal line tackle on the goal-line? Did he come up with a better defensive scheme? A REAL QB would have!!!
All Dak did was lead the offense to the #1 ranking despite having WRs that led the league in drops and a first-year OC and the Clapper as the HC!! What did he have to do with ANY of that? Hmmmm?
 

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The most bizarre aspect of this entire Dak subject is the fact that the guy is 4 years into his nfl career and people want to label him as a finished product. I can't fathom the thought process behind that. Besides that fact, he's been coached by one the worst coaches in the NFL for his entire career. Let's see what the guy can do with a real football coach in charge.
 

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I typically try to play devils advocate on these types of post because they are typically either
A) cherry picked numbers to fit an argument
B) lacking context or definition

This post really doesn't do either. Go Dak!

My concern now kind of shifts towards what were the cowboys doing last year to have screens and play action plays drop his completion percentage?
 

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The most bizarre aspect of this entire Dak subject is the fact that the guy is 4 years into his nfl career and people want to label him as a finished product. I can't fathom the thought process behind that. Besides that fact, he's been coached by one the worst coaches in the NFL for his entire career. Let's see what the guy can do with a real football coach in charge.
Will make a difference if he hasn’t been ruined.
 

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Dak Prescott


"We are not using another website's numbers, ours come from our own database of 15,281 plays. These numbers are not yet available for public consumption but we're working on it." Another Dak love post right on cue, really glad that 70% translated into all those wins.
 

thunderpimp91

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The most bizarre aspect of this entire Dak subject is the fact that the guy is 4 years into his nfl career and people want to label him as a finished product. I can't fathom the thought process behind that. Besides that fact, he's been coached by one the worst coaches in the NFL for his entire career. Let's see what the guy can do with a real football coach in charge.
A player can always look to get better, but let's be honest 4 years in you tend to know what you have in a player, even at QB. The truth is unless your name is Brady you typically are not winning super bowls deep into your 30s. Age 25-30 seems to be a QBs prime, and where most win a super bowl. Dak is going to be 27 before the 2020 season. Sounds so young, but that should be the midst of his prime.
 

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Not going to attack the metric, but there is some nuance. If a WR is wide open going across the middle and the pass is behind him causing him to slow/stop/turn around and robbing the team of YAC, it may be a completion but I'd hesitate to call it an "accurate" pass. Same thing with a deep ball where the WR isn't hit in stride. How about a pass in the flat that causes the RB to turn around and he loses the second that he might have had to get a head of steam to beat the LB/CB in the open field? I don't see those addressed in this analysis. I can't say how Dak compares to others so this isn't a pro/anti Prescott rant.

I think there would also need to be some measure given to the circumstances of completions as well. We've seen mediocre QBs in the last 5 minutes string together 8-10 completions against teams with 2-3 score leads that are happy to give up methodical, time consuming drives. That was certainly a glaring situation last year for Dallas in many games. They would continually fall behind and fantasy football fans would greedily see those 4th quarter 150 yard/1 TD numbers added to his stats with no substantive impact on the win/loss column.

On the flip side, I find the numbers of dropped passes that were catchable to be very interesting. Some blame falls on the QB for not making them "more catchable" (gets into where in the catch radius we shift the blame), but I expect most of it falls on the receiver (including RB/TE) talent and coaching technique. As a Penn State fan, I've watched their receivers drop a number of passes that blow past the absurd threshold. At that point you need to consider firing the WR coach at halftime. It's correctable. A guy like Mike Gesicki absolutely had stone hands early in his college career, yet by his final season he was making catches like Andre Hopkins in traffic. That stuff is correctable, much like fumbles are with proper technique.
 

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I am not going to argue with the numbers. The Cowboys had the best offensive yards production in the league. Since the running game was inconsistent at best, Dak had to have something to do with getting all those yards.

His receivers also dropped a lot of passes. Another non-surprise. We saw it quite a bit.

However, statistics do not tell the whole story. In the end, the Cowboys went against a beat up Eagles team that had no receivers and a bad secondary and pooped the bed. A large part of that loss was on Dak. Its a game we cannot easily forget. There is no doubt in my mind Dak regressed the second half of the season. Let's hope he improves this year.
 

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Stats don't lie. This is why Dak is asking for top overall pay...because he's earned it.
Stats are facts, but I’d say they do lie. Romo had great stats, and I’m one of those who says it meant nothing because his stats never won big games to get in the playoffs or in the playoffs. The jury is still out for me on Dak. I love his leadership, but if he can lead this deep deep into the playoffs to an NFC title game, I won’t care what his stats are or if he even passes for 4,000 yards.
 

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Have you ever bothered to think maybe 8-8 and watching the playoffs was the fault of someone else? Of course not. :facepalm:
Yep......but I'm trying to correlate the Most Accurate Passer with some kind of TEAM reward. That's all, thus making it a moot point to me, or shall I say...."Like Empty Calories". The NFL is about wins and losses.....right? Now if you're Dak's agent sitting across the table with JJ.....have at it. As for the wins and playoffs.....film don't lie. The Blame game is on this board.....ala....The Annual Fall Guy Award (2019 - Zeke....2018 - Beaz, Williams, 2017 - Dez.... and the most notable 2008 -T.O.)
 

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I am not going to argue with the numbers. The Cowboys had the best offensive yards production in the league. Since the running game was inconsistent at best, Dak had to have something to do with getting all those yards.

His receivers also dropped a lot of passes. Another non-surprise. We saw it quite a bit.

However, statistics do not tell the whole story. In the end, the Cowboys went against a beat up Eagles team that had no receivers and a bad secondary and pooped the bed. A large part of that loss was on Dak. Its a game we cannot easily forget. There is no doubt in my mind Dak regressed the second half of the season. Let's hope he improves this year.
A torn ligament in your throwing shoulder and a fractured finger on your throwing hand tends to hamper a QB I would think. The coaches really screwed up allowing Dak to play that game.
 
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