Dak had best wake up and smell the roses

HappyOnions · May 1, 2020

The harsh reality is that Dak has been a good QB so far in his career, but the Cowboys can do better for the money he likely wants.

Watching Dak last year was not encouraging, despite the numbers. Lots of games lost because the offense just couldn't get it going until the second half, all together, or couldn't put it together late in the game.

He lit up the bottom feeders, aside from the Rams and Eagles.

Vandyr · May 1, 2020

Qcard said:
The endorsement companies will swap out teams like underwear if Dak left...

People sleep and eat in other States where they have football teams too....

I seriously doubt that. Dak will fade into obscurity if he goes to another team. Dude needs a top rank offense around him at all times to get anything done, and even then it's a big "if". He needs to ride Jerry's gravy train as long as he can if he wants to stay relevant. To that end, he needs to make Cowboys friendly deals, not Dak friendly deals.

TheMarathonContinues · May 1, 2020

Diehardblues said:
Do you have any links or reports supporting your claim?

Otherwise, yes I’m more inclined to follow a report by Forbes ( which there were other news sources) or a comment from an anonymous fan with no sources?

My point isn't to believe one party over the other. I'm telling you that I chose to sit back and let the negotiations do what they are going to do. Right now this is about Jerry and co. beating Dak's agent. Its a competition. I'm not naive enough to believe that one party or both parties are leaking news to the media to help them out in negotiations.

TheMarathonContinues · May 1, 2020

Diehardblues said:
Are you conceding or accepting Dak should be the highest paid QB in the league?

What exactly are you coming to grips with?

Cause I’d argue the general consensus is Dak should be paid. And top 5 would be acceptable.

Now, demanding the top paid overall is what is being questioned or called out and apparently the stonewall in negotiations.

Are you supporting we should cave in negotiations or simply stating you think we will?

I've come to grips that in order to keep a top level free agent you are going to overpay. Its the rules of the game.

TheMarathonContinues · May 1, 2020

Vandyr said:
I seriously doubt that. Dak will fade into obscurity if he goes to another team. Dude needs a top rank offense around him at all times to get anything done, and even then it's a big "if". He needs to ride Jerry's gravy train as long as he can if he wants to stay relevant. To that end, he needs to make Cowboys friendly deals, not Dak friendly deals.

This is silly. Oh wow he needs help just like any other quarterback.

Qcard · May 1, 2020

Vandyr said:
I seriously doubt that. Dak will fade into obscurity if he goes to another team. Dude needs a top rank offense around him at all times to get anything done, and even then it's a big "if". He needs to ride Jerry's gravy train as long as he can if he wants to stay relevant. To that end, he needs to make Cowboys friendly deals, not Dak friendly deals.

Wake up sir....this is the 21st Century. Be Dallas Cowboys QB1 is like the 360 deal industry's gave artists in the 19th and 20th

This is the 21st Century.. we have celebrities making tens of Millions from their laptops and cellphone..

Dak endorsement success is not tethered to the Cowboys....maybe Aikman in 90s or Romo in 00s but TODAY....ehhh update your app sir!

Vandyr · May 1, 2020

rocyaice said:
This is silly. Oh wow he needs help just like any other quarterback.

Not really. I mean, MM may be the game changer, and if Dak leads the Cowboys to a super bowl, i will HAPPILY eat crow. But I don't see it...he is exactly what his scouting reports said he is. He still has the same fundamental flaws now that he had in college. He is a mediocre quarterback that is incapable of carrying a team, in my opinion. And trust me, I would love to be proven wrong, but after four years, not likely.

Cmac · May 1, 2020

kskboys said:
There's a salary cap and a salary minimum. Which makes your post completely off base. What Dak gets paid is only relevant in managing the salary cap, it has absolutely nothing to do w/ what the owners make.

I've seen no evidence at all that "some on this board don't want players to get paid but owners grabbing all the money." It appears that you're making that up in your head.

When does salary cap dictate the players market value.....you pay, and if you don't, onto the next bidder once the tag or free agency allows........The cap is the team's issue. It's really that simple, but more often than not....Fans side with the ownership.

See Zeke, last year regarding his pay. He was vilified for asking for his worth. And Dak is about to incur the same wrath. Book it.

Diehardblues · May 1, 2020

rocyaice said:
I've come to grips that in order to keep a top level free agent you are going to overpay. Its the rules of the game.

Does that translate to making Dak the highest paid Qb?

Diehardblues · May 1, 2020

rocyaice said:
My point isn't to believe one party over the other. I'm telling you that I chose to sit back and let the negotiations do what they are going to do. Right now this is about Jerry and co. beating Dak's agent. Its a competition. I'm not naive enough to believe that one party or both parties are leaking news to the media to help them out in negotiations.

I view it more as a business than competition. Do we believe Dak should be the highest paid QB in the league. That’s the line in the sand.

Cowboys appear to believe he’s worth top 5 not #1. I’m Leaning more in support of the Cowboys stance versus Dak. How about you?

CCBoy · May 1, 2020

One odd quirk of the 2019 Cowboys season is that the team lost every single game in which it scored less than 30 points. The Cowboys scored more than 30 points in eight games and won all of them. They scored less than 30 points in the other eight games and lost every single one of those games. Only twice in franchise history have the Cowboys scored 30+ points in more games. Once in 2014 (10 games), and once in 1983 (9 games). And 2007 was the only other season in which they had eight 30+ point games.

So in terms of 30+ point games, our disappointing, non-playoff, 8-8 season in 2019 is right up there with 2014 (10 30+ games), 2007 (8), and ahead of 2016 (6) and 1994 (6)? Yes it is. Why fixate on those 30 points? Because since realignment in 2002, and after the Greatest Show on Turf averaged more than 30 points per game for three consecutive years from 1999-2001, only 22 teams have averaged more than 30 points per game (which translates to 480 points per season), and all but one of those teams made the playoffs.

And you know what doesn’t matter when you score 30 points per game? Your defense. Because there are not that many teams in the NFL that can keep pace with an offense that puts up 30+ points.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...rescott-ceedee-lamb-zeke-elliott-amari-cooper

BrAinPaiNt · May 1, 2020

Please stop the personal attacks.

CCBoy · May 1, 2020

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...rescott-ceedee-lamb-zeke-elliott-amari-cooper

PAPPYDOG · May 1, 2020

CCBoy said:
Dak's agent is setting his teeth into top of NFL as well as Cowboys' setting pay days...but he may be losing a locker room and group of supporting fans in the same stroke.

Brandt’s top three include the Saints’ pairing of Brees and Thomas, the Falcons’ connection of Matt Ryan and Julio Jones, and the Cardinals’ new duo of the exciting Kyler Murray and All-Pro DeAndre Hopkins.

Brandt then has Dallas...

4) Dak Prescott and Amari Cooper, Dallas Cowboys: The selection of Oklahoma receiver CeeDee Lamb with the 17th overall pick could have a positive impact on Cooper. If Lamb is able to develop quickly, Cooper could get more snaps in the slot, where he’ll be able to wreak havoc. Even if Lamb needs a bit of time, Cooper should still make the most of the contract extension to which he’s been signed, assuming he doesn’t have to deal with anything like the leg injuries that bothered him last year. Of course, this also presumes the franchise-tagged Prescott doesn’t hold out or miss time as he waits for a new contract.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...urth-best-qb-and-wr-pairing-heading-into-2020

Couple this with acquiring Cee Dee Lamb, a very pro Dak move, and Dallas has more than supported Dak in his position. This being the anti-Green Bay by the team during this draft.

Now, mix in what has been done along the depth for the offensive line, and his role has been in the middle of the franchise's bulls eye. They have done their due diligence and then some, including offering and negotiating in good faith, to reward that very player.

If he doesn't quickly gain a team oriented slant, and quit buying into his glory, instead of the team...he will end up losing a ton more, that what is pictured in front of his nose.

Dak, it's time to get your butt off it's high/holy air space, and back to team and Lombardi building!

A whole lot of talk for a below-average needs to be carried ....
Very soon he will be another Quincy Carter should have been could have been,....

TheMarathonContinues · May 1, 2020

Vandyr said:
Not really. I mean, MM may be the game changer, and if Dak leads the Cowboys to a super bowl, i will HAPPILY eat crow. But I don't see it...he is exactly what his scouting reports said he is. He still has the same fundamental flaws now that he had in college. He is a mediocre quarterback that is incapable of carrying a team, in my opinion. And trust me, I would love to be proven wrong, but after four years, not likely.

So after 4 years he's suppose to be what?A Super Bowl champion in that span? He was suppose to carry Jason Garrett and this team to the Super Bowl?

CCBoy · May 1, 2020

Wonder why two kickers are currently on the roster going into camp?

The 2019 Cowboys scored 434 points, the eighth-most in franchise history, for a cool 27.1 points per game average. That wasn’t quite enough to reach the 30-point per game threshold, but it was the sixth-best total in the league last year, and a field goal shy of that 30-point threshold.

And you know which team missed 10 field goals last year? The Cowboys.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...rescott-ceedee-lamb-zeke-elliott-amari-cooper

TheMarathonContinues · May 1, 2020

Diehardblues said:
Does that translate to making Dak the highest paid Qb?

Probably. Until Deshaun Watson, Pat Mahomes, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Kyler Murray, etc. are signed.

TheMarathonContinues · May 1, 2020

Diehardblues said:
I view it more as a business than competition. Do we believe Dak should be the highest paid QB in the league. That’s the line in the sand.

Cowboys appear to believe he’s worth top 5 not #1. I’m Leaning more in support of the Cowboys stance versus Dak. How about you?

From everything I've ready they are stuck on the years.

And like I said I'm not leaning towards anything if I don't have the contract details in front of me. People complained about Cooper's deal but they can get from under it in 2 years.

Business is a competition to me.

conner01 · May 1, 2020

Section446 said:
He's been average and will always been average.

If he’s avg then why was he above avg in every statistical category

Diehardblues · May 1, 2020

rocyaice said:
From everything I've ready they are stuck on the years.

And like I said I'm not leaning towards anything if I don't have the contract details in front of me. People complained about Cooper's deal but they can get from under it in 2 years.

Business is a competition to me.

Are you supportive of Dak becoming the highest paid QB in the league?

Dak had best wake up and smell the roses

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There are no Dak haters just Cowboy lovers!!!

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