Travis Frederick

I just read somewhere (fox sports) I think and it says that TBeard hasn't been placed on the retired list. Why is this? Could he be having second thoughts because the Boys would be that much better if he returned.

No reason to do it now - and if we do it after June 1st, the bulk of his 11.3 Million dollar cap hit moves into 2021 instead of hitting in 2020.

Team website has him listed as Reserve / Retired. So as @Kaiser mentioned, he will officially be announced as retired June 1st. Splits the cap hit.

jazzcat22 said:

Team website has him listed as Reserve / Retired. So as @Kaiser mentioned, he will officially be announced as retired June 1st. Splits the cap hit.

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I wonder if he changes his mind in a year or so? Its possible he continues to get stronger and return to form right?

CowboysWillRise said:

I wonder if he changes his mind in a year or so? Its possible he continues to get stronger and return to form right?

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Wishful thinking I believe, but what I am holding out some shred of hope for is that he might continue to be involved with the team in some capacity, even as a visiting player/coach role and helping a young fellow Wisconsin center to get up-to-speed faster.

stasheroo said:

Wishful thinking I believe, but what I am holding out some shred of hope for is that he might continue to be involved with the team in some capacity, even as a visiting player/coach role and helping a young fellow Wisconsin center to get up-to-speed faster.

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Yea, he already missed 2018. He’s done

stasheroo said:

Wishful thinking I believe, but what I am holding out some shred of hope for is that he might continue to be involved with the team in some capacity, even as a visiting player/coach role and helping a young fellow Wisconsin center to get up-to-speed faster.

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I have a feeling this is exactly what he will do. Plus help in TC as well as on the sidelines. As he did while out and recovering. He said he would wear a headset and help anyway he could.

CowboysWillRise said:

I wonder if he changes his mind in a year or so? Its possible he continues to get stronger and return to form right?

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Doubtful.

Guys that play OL tend to lose the weight and muscle from not playing.

Not everyone is a freak like Aldon Smith lol

jazzcat22 said:

I have a feeling this is exactly what he will do. Plus help in TC as well as on the sidelines. As he did while out and recovering. He said he would wear a headset and help anyway he could.

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Fingers crossed. I think his help could be invaluable to young guys like McGovern and Biadasz competing for that center spot.

Why is there a cap hit on retired players?

It was surprising to me he retired. He looked ok and thought by this year he may be full strength.

CATCH17 said:

Why is there a cap hit on retired players?

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I’m assuming it’s from his signing bonus (cap hits from signing bonus can be spread over the length of the contract), or could be guaranteed part of the contract that Dallas didn’t decide to recoup.

CATCH17 said:

Why is there a cap hit on retired players?

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Because signing bonus money has to be accounted for at some point. You can spread it out over several years (up to five) but if you didn't force teams to take the hit for signing bonuses at some point every veteran contract would be a big bonus/low salary. The net effect of that would be teams only having to account for a small fraction of what they paid their top players.

Wonder how much time he is willing to spend mentoring Biadasz.

glimmerman said:

It was surprising to me he retired. He looked ok and thought by this year he may be full strength.

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I'm guessing he wants to be sure he stays that way.

One unfortunate aspect about the change in coaching staff is that, since they have no relationship with Fred, they likely won't reach out to him and ask him to work a bit with the O-line. Colombo immediately gave Fred a headset in 2018 when he took over the line. Kid is a natural for coaching - Brian Waters said, when he arrived here very late (like after the preseason, I think) that Fred taught him the offense. Fred was a rookie at the time.

AbeBeta said:

One unfortunate aspect about the change in coaching staff is that, since they have no relationship with Fred, they likely won't reach out to him and ask him to work a bit with the O-line. Colombo immediately gave Fred a headset in 2018 when he took over the line. Kid is a natural for coaching - Brian Waters said, when he arrived here very late (like after the preseason, I think) that Fred taught him the offense. Fred was a rookie at the time.

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On the flip side, MM is a smart coach, and I'm sure he knows how smart TF is, so maybe.

jazzcat22 said:

Team website has him listed as Reserve / Retired. So as @Kaiser mentioned, he will officially be announced as retired June 1st. Splits the cap hit.

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Technically, it's not the announcement that triggers the cap hit. It's when he officially files the paperwork with the league. I have no idea if he has done that yet, but I would guess the Cowboys would want him to file it post-June 1 if he hasn't yet.

Westcoasthabsfan said:

I just read somewhere (fox sports) I think and it says that TBeard hasn't been placed on the retired list. Why is this? Could he be having second thoughts because the Boys would be that much better if he returned.

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just accounting.
he's retired.

CATCH17 said:

Why is there a cap hit on retired players?

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The fact that you eat it when a big-money player retires is seen as a benefit, not a cost, in the eyes of the risk-averse league. They want teams who throw around big-money long deals with players who are near retirement (setting bad precedents the other teams don't want to be pressured to follow) to be necessarily punished for it in order to discourage teams from making those deals and setting those precedents. Sort of like how teams wanted the rules changed to stop themselves from paying rookies too much. They want rules in place to stop them from throwing too much money at aging players near the end.

If we'd gone into free agency and offered Tom Brady a 5 year, $150M deal to blow his doors off and outbid everyone and make a splash, the other teams around the league would *want* us to be punished for that, for us to not have the option to have him retire and be let off the hook. Giving a 43-year old that kind of money and that kind of long deal would be seen as a horrible precedent. Other teams would want us to be screwed by the contract eventually, to punish us for setting such a bad precedent and to discourage other teams from bolstering the bad precedent by doing the same.