Recap: JJT: Whispers from the Star (5/1)

jterrell

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You're fixating on semantics rather than the issue. The fact is that Marinelli was the leader in the clubhouse regarding Watt being a linebacker and not a DE. That opinion was in direct opposition to what the scouts reported. Call it whatever you need to after that, but don;t miss the key points.

"The Taco Charlton vs. T.J. Watt debate had been settled days before, the Dallas Cowboys coaching staff winning the healthy argument with the scouting department, Rod Marinelli and the coaches believing that Watt is more of an outside linebacker than the right defensive end the scouting department viewed him to be."



Like I said, you're hung up on the 'banging the table' references, while ignoring that it was Marinelli leading the charge with Garrett backing 'his guy'.
You are correct that there are 2 separate threads here.

Thread 1. TJ Watt grading. Rod and coaches graded him a LB. They did not get to slot him but did get to judge him a LB.

Thread 2. Taking Taco and banging tables. Rod had zero say there. He wasn't part of that decision-making group.

They were taking Takk but ATL selected him the pick before.
JG wanted a big nasty difference maker up front.

They went DE over the higher ranked Kevin King. --largely because they liked CB depth
They did not have an R1 grade on Watt.
JG wanted the big, nasty DL.

Rod's repetitive scheme and pigeon-holing of guys was a fair issue to overcome.
People arguing he was responsible for Taco tho are lying to themselves and other people.

DAL could have simply selected King and been very happy.
A King/BJ31 CB combo would have been insane but he was also injury prone early in his career.
DAL just missed on the pick.
No reason to lie to ourselves and blame it on Rod.
 

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I hate innuendo without names. Akin to gossip. Surprised about switzer. Never saw much in him.
 

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You are correct that there are 2 separate threads here.

Thread 1. TJ Watt grading. Rod and coaches graded him a LB. They did not get to slot him but did get to judge him a LB.

Thread 2. Taking Taco and banging tables. Rod had zero say there. He wasn't part of that decision-making group.

If he made the initial screwball determination on Watt, he certainly was part of the decision-making.

They were taking Takk but ATL selected him the pick before.
JG wanted a big nasty difference maker up front.

They went DE over the higher ranked Kevin King. --largely because they liked CB depth
They did not have an R1 grade on Watt.
JG wanted the big, nasty DL.

Rod's repetitive scheme and pigeon-holing of guys was a fair issue to overcome.
People arguing he was responsible for Taco tho are lying to themselves and other people.

Again, not true. If not for Rod's bull**** 'linebacker only' evaluation, Watt is the pick there.

DAL could have simply selected King and been very happy.
A King/BJ31 CB combo would have been insane but he was also injury prone early in his career.
DAL just missed on the pick.
No reason to lie to ourselves and blame it on Rod.

The lie is not blaming it on Rod.
 

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4. An unnamed, newly acquired player that is in Dallas currently, who they expect to be a major contributor has a huge problem that the media hasn't hit on yet - he has a gambling issue. JJT asked a source if he gambles on sports, horses, casino games, or what? Source told JJT that he shoots dice, or essentially plays craps for you boomers, on the streets. Doesn't sound like a big deal, but people don't shoot dice in nice neighborhoods. You are typically in the hood, where things can pop off and go awry quickly. Says the Cowboys knew of this issue before signing him and they think that have the resources and help to keep this guy on the straight and narrow. Really curious as to who this player is.

Thanks for the update. But all this guy has to do is go incognito. Do that and who cares if he shoots dice? There's risk to a lot of things we do in our lives.
 

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Thanks for posting. I believe the newly acquire guy is MM or Mike Nolan, lol.
 

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Yo people! Here is a recap of today's segment which concluded a few minutes ago. Link will be added later, probably tonight.

I'll preface this by saying that before he even started the segment, JJT and Matt were talking at length about Taco Charlton, and his dismissal from the Miami Dolphins. JJT said that he had texted one of his team sources and asked them if they were surprised by this news. Source said "Nah, not at all. That's just who Taco is." One thing that JJT said on air during Jam Session today that really stuck with me was that in his 26 years of covering the Cowboys, he's dealt with almost every player in some fashion, but he said there have been only two players EVER that have rubbed him the wrong way with arrogance, ego, and entitlement without accomplishing a damn thing and we drafted both guys the same year: Taco Charlton and Ryan Switzer. Now for the segment:

1. JJT spent a little bit of time on the secondary, and really introduced Daryl Worley to the listeners if they didn't know who he was. He was drafted by my hometown Panthers, so I know he was a third round pick out of WVU in 2016, who was traded to the Eagles for WR Torrey Smith. He never really even got on the field for the Eagles because he was caught sleeping in a running car blocking a major highway, and was subsequently released and spent the last two years with the Raiders. He is a starter in this league and has a lot of experience at CB, and Dallas paid him too well to be just a camp body, so I would look for him to be a major contributor from the start. But given McCarthy's recent remarks about DB's with position flex, JJT asked a team source if Worley is a CB that can also play a little bit of Safety? Or is he a guy that can be a starting Safety in this league? Source said that he's a CB that can play a little bit of Safety if needed, but they can't envision a scenario where he would be a starting Safety in Dallas.

JJT also mentioned to the source that it seems that we are getting bigger at corner. All of our guys now, with the exception of Jourdan Lewis, are 6 feet or taller and 200 lbs. What does this mean for "lil ol' Jourdan Lewis", as JJT called him. Source said that "J Lew" as he called him, has skills and followed that up with "he a dawg." Said you need guys like this on your team, because they don't care who's name is on the jersey that you're playing against, you will always get 100% from them, and like guys like Zeke, they bring a certain element of a physical toughness to the team. JJT compared him to Kevin Smith in the '92 NFC Championship game. He wasn't the best corner in the league by far, but he also wasn't in any way afraid of lining up next to Jerry Rice, and threw him around all game. Said Jourdan is the same way. Think back to the All or Nothing series on Amazon a few years ago. Who was giving Dez the most hell in practice? J Lew. He a dawg, and that's why Dallas likes having him around.

2. Spent a little time discussing training camp location possibilities and it's basically between Oxnard and Frisco. JJT asked a source if CA was completely off the table because he and Matt were looking forward to a little beach time this summer. The source told JJT that they will wait until the final hour to make that determination because CA is very important for Dallas in their preparation for the season. It's obviously very hot in Texas over the summer, so they would have to practice early in the morning if they were to do it in Frisco. Doesn't sound like a huge issue, but it is because that leaves little to no time for walk-thrus or installs before practice, which is the whole reason you go to training camp. Frisco also leaves them with way less field for individual drills, plus the whole sentiment of getting away from Dallas for the month is very important to the whole organization. I guess we'll see.

3. Amari Cooper wanted to buy Deion Sanders's house in Prosper. Came to Deion to talk to him about it. Deion basically told the kid, "nah man, you don't need that much house." When Deion built the house, he had a wife and was raising like 5 kids and had even more kids in and out of his house with all the camps and charities that he's a part of. Told Amari that buying that big house for him to just be living in isn't a smart thing to do with his money. Deion always has kept it real. Told him to come back and talk to him though once he had a family.

4. An unnamed, newly acquired player that is in Dallas currently, who they expect to be a major contributor has a huge problem that the media hasn't hit on yet - he has a gambling issue. JJT asked a source if he gambles on sports, horses, casino games, or what? Source told JJT that he shoots dice, or essentially plays craps for you boomers, on the streets. Doesn't sound like a big deal, but people don't shoot dice in nice neighborhoods. You are typically in the hood, where things can pop off and go awry quickly. Says the Cowboys knew of this issue before signing him and they think that have the resources and help to keep this guy on the straight and narrow. Really curious as to who this player is.

And that's all I got, folks. Check back next week :starspin:
. You are typically in the hood, where things can pop off and go awry quickly

That line is sooooooooo true lol
 

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Glad you cleared up that shooting dice thing for this Boomer. We are so behind on the hipsters slang. I mean you were apt to toss out throwing the bones.

Because everyone knows you bet all your kale against Little Joe.
 

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i heard Norm Hitkes say on his show back at the time, a " source" say the team could not wait to get Switzer off the roster.

Ironically i heard JJT make mention of Switzer in the same sense at the time after Switzer was traded to Raiders.

:confused:

Guy is 25 and has already bounced around the league. A JAG on his best day. He had an attitude when they drafted him. How the hell did they not know he was such a clown?
 

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plus the whole sentiment of getting away from Dallas for the month is very important to the whole organization.

Thanks for taking the time to type out these recaps. Much appreciated. Also, this is a great point about training camp in Oxnard that I totally get.
 

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Jerry ultimately approved it, but what would you be saying if he overruled them?

The driving forces on why we have Taco or Marinelli and Garrett. If you want to consider McClay and the Jones boys as accomplices to the crime? Sure, they were all ultimately complicit.

But the two chief architects were rightfully fired.
Did Jerry tell you that?
 

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The Switz i knew at carolina was a yes sir no sir kinda kid. My brother and Ryans dad became close when he was in chapel hill. so he talked with Ryan as well. My brother isnt the type to put up with BS attitude from anyone, he doesnt care who you are. So if Ryan was like that its news to me. Not saying its not true, just not the Switz i came to know.
 

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Newly acquired major contributors:
Poe, McCoy, Clinton-Dix

McCoy is a high character guy with established family roots so it's unlikely to be him. The other two I haven't got anything to go off.
McCoy said Poe is all business and minds his business off the field, not buying it is him either.
 

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4. An unnamed, newly acquired player that is in Dallas currently, who they expect to be a major contributor has a huge problem that the media hasn't hit on yet - he has a gambling issue. JJT asked a source if he gambles on sports, horses, casino games, or what? Source told JJT that he shoots dice, or essentially plays craps for you boomers, on the streets. Doesn't sound like a big deal, but people don't shoot dice in nice neighborhoods. You are typically in the hood, where things can pop off and go awry quickly. Says the Cowboys knew of this issue before signing him and they think that have the resources and help to keep this guy on the straight and narrow. Really curious as to who this player is.

Sounds like Joe Fortunato.
 
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