Dallas should rescind the franchise tag and let Dak walk

CowboysFaninHouston · May 3, 2020

Bullflop said:
Realistically, he's there to replace Rush in the event that Dak renders himself unavailable. He's not about to replace Dak -- that's just reality.

yes, agreed.

Jarv · May 3, 2020

rocyaice said:
We people say we have one of the dumbest fanbases in the league.......we are definitely top 5 for sure. Pains me to say it but its true.

Agreed, can't believe we have fans that think Dak is worth 35 million+ a year.

PAPPYDOG · May 3, 2020

Mr_C said:
He’ll be our franchise QB. He’ll make a ton of money.

You all will deal with that fact.

CowboysFaninHouston · May 3, 2020

rocyaice said:
Right. People are trying to recreate the narrative. And I actually like Dalton probably better than most but there's some notion that anyone can play with this team. Like it doesn't take talent. People use to say that about Demarco Murray. Anyone can run behind this line. Not the case. You still need talent.

Andy Dalton had some very talented teams. Its funny the narrative is now that he didn't. Maybe in the later years for sure but he had arguably one of the best receivers in the league when he was healthy.

now, those Dak detractors, will point to Daltons OL, the coaching, drops, teams in the division, RB, etc...as reasons he didnt' succeed but can succeed here........but wins, its all on Dak, offense, its all on Dak, special teams, defense, coaching..hey, don't bring those up. its all on Dak.

CowboysFaninHouston · May 3, 2020

Jarv said:
Agreed, can't believe we have fans that think Dak is worth 35 million+ a year.

is any player worth that much? perhaps just Mahomes, but 10 years ago, 35 was an outrageous number. that's the market. that's the NFL, numbers specially for QBs go up. when Eli resigned, he was the highest paid player in the league at the time, they said Giants,were screwed, etc...then he won a superbowl and guess what, salaries went up, he wasn't the highest paid player, nor took 15% of his team's salary cap....teams have to figure out how to win, by resigning their players and finding a way to put a winning team together. winning just on Rookie contracts is very hard....

TheMarathonContinues · May 3, 2020

Jarv said:
Agreed, can't believe we have fans that think Dak is worth 35 million+ a year.

Hell me either.....but you want to know where the stupidity comes in at? You are about to root for a team that pays him 35 million lol. So even the organization feels he's worth that.

ChronicCowboy said:
Bro not everyone thinks Dak is great. Accept that and quit calling the fan base stupid or bad.

Oh for the people that think Dak is great I'd put them in with the stupid people in this fanbase too lol. Our fanbase is stupid. Hard to fault us. 20+ years of failure....I guess that's the repercussions. Your fanbase turning STUPID.

CowboysFaninHouston said:
now, those Dak detractors, will point to his OL, the coaching, drops, teams in the division, RB, etc...as reasons he didnt' succeed but can succeed....but wins, its all on Dak, offense, its all on Dak, special teams, defense, coaching..hey, don't bring those up. its all on Dak.

Right...and then they will argue with me about our fanbase.....lol.

Dre11 · May 3, 2020

rocyaice said:
Right. People are trying to recreate the narrative. And I actually like Dalton probably better than most but there's some notion that anyone can play with this team. Like it doesn't take talent. People use to say that about Demarco Murray. Anyone can run behind this line. Not the case. You still need talent.

Andy Dalton had some very talented teams. Its funny the narrative is now that he didn't. Maybe in the later years for sure but he had arguably one of the best receivers in the league when he was healthy.

agree with most, but Demarco was pretty good when healthy behind this line

TheMarathonContinues · May 3, 2020

Dre11 said:
agree with most, but Demarco was pretty good when healthy behind this line

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying there was a part of this fanbase that thought "anyone can run behind this line". And if you want to say Darren McFadden racking up 1000 yards is "anyone" than that's fine but I think Demarco was far more than just some random guy. He was a very good back and had a great year here.

JoaquinFenix · May 3, 2020

CowboysFaninHouston said:
Detroit, Steelers, Colts, Jaguars, Broncos (yes, broncos), Raiders, Chargers, Commanders, Bears,

LOLOL

First of all, I challenged you to name the potential suitors NOT in my post. I guess I was asking for too much. That takes care of the Raiders, Jaguars, and Bears.

Teams that recently invested high draft picks in QBs aren’t legitimate options. The Chargers literally just spent the #6 overall pick on a QB. The Commanders used the #15 overall pick one year ago on a QB. The Broncos have committed to their 2nd-round pick from last year. None of these teams is pulling the plug just yet.

That leaves the Lions, Steelers, and Colts. Have you even looked at the financials for these clubs? The Steelers not only have only $5M in cap space, but cutting Big Ben results in a whopping $44M of dead money. Stafford’s dead money would be $32M. And Rivers just signed a fully guaranteed deal for $25M. Not happening.

Try again.

Dre11 · May 3, 2020

rocyaice said:
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying there was a part of this fanbase that thought "anyone can run behind this line". And if you want to say Darren McFadden racking up 1000 yards is "anyone" than that's fine but I think Demarco was far more than just some random guy. He was a very good back and had a great year here.

gotcha, it read like you were saying Demarco couldn't run behind this line.

CowboysFaninHouston · May 3, 2020

JoaquinFenix said:
LOLOL

First of all, I challenged you to name the potential suitors NOT in my post. I guess I was asking for too much. That takes care of the Raiders, Jaguars, and Bears.

Teams that recently invested high draft picks in QBs aren’t legitimate options. The Chargers literally just spent the #6 overall pick on a QB. The Commanders used the #15 overall pick one year ago on a QB. The Broncos have committed to their 2nd-round pick from last year. None of these teams is pulling the plug just yet.

That leaves the Lions, Steelers, and Colts. Have you even looked at the financials for these clubs? The Steelers not only have only $5M in cap space, but cutting Big Ben results in a whopping $44M of dead money. Stafford’s dead money would be $32M. And Rivers just signed a fully guaranteed deal for $25M. Not happening.

Try again.

my mistake on Chargers...but Commanders been rumored to not be so enamoured with Haskins....Cardinals spent a top 10 pick on a QB, a year later they spent the #1 pick....so its not like teams don't move on....

Broncos have shown they will move on quickly, they traded up to draft lynch and quickly moved on from him, Elway is looking for his QB and will do anything to get one.....you don't think he will go after Dak and drop Lock?

and Steelers wouldn't hesitate to drop ben, and they can work the books to sign anyone if they really wanted to, we did for years.....

Dak wouldn't be without suitors out there, but you act like you know more than Stephen, Jerry, McClay and MCarthy….interesting approach.

JoaquinFenix · May 3, 2020

CowboysFaninHouston said:
my mistake on Chargers...but Commanders been rumored to not be so enamoured with Haskins....Cardinals spent a top 10 pick on a QB, a year later they spent the #1 pick....so its not like teams don't move on....

Broncos have shown they will move on quickly, they traded up to draft lynch and quickly moved on from him, Elway is looking for his QB and will do anything to get one.....you don't think he will go after Dak and drop Lock?

and Steelers wouldn't hesitate to drop ben, and they can work the books to sign anyone if they really wanted to, we did for years.....

Dak wouldn't be without suitors out there, but you act like you know more than Stephen, Jerry, McClay and MCarthy….interesting approach.

So let me get this straight: You think the Steelers will cut a future Hall of Famer, incur $44M of dead money in the process, and restructure $20M of other contracts all for the privilege of signing Prescott to a mega-deal? Oh, okay. I see now that I’m debating a crazy person.

gjkoeppen · May 3, 2020

JoaquinFenix said:
The Cowboys claim that the Andy Dalton signing has nothing to do with Dak Prescott, but it’s clear that Dalton gives the Cowboys some leverage in negotiations with Prescott.

Any team that signs Prescott to a franchise deal would need two things: (1) not to have a franchise QB already in place; and (2) at least $25M in 2020 cap space (depending on deal structure).

At this point in the offseason, very few teams even satisfy the first condition. Here is a rundown of the QB situation across the league:

A very generous list of possible landing spots contains the Patriots, Jaguars, Raiders, and Bears. That’s it.

Moving on to the second condition narrows the list even more. Here’s the cap space for each possible suitor:

Patriots: $2M

Jaguars: $21M

Raiders: $12M

Bears: $10M

The Patriots would be hard-pressed to create the necessary space. The Jaguars could make it happen. The Raiders could get to $25M by cutting Carr, but they’d be tight against the cap. The Bears would get no cap relief by cutting Trubisky and would need to create at least $15M elsewhere, which is unlikely.

Therefore, it appears that the only competition for Prescott’s services would come from the Jaguars and the Raiders. The Jaguars could offer more money, but Las Vegas would obviously be the preferable destination. In this ongoing game of chicken, Jerry Jones has to like those odds. He should call Prescott’s bluff.

It's obvious you are confused with the franchise tag rules. Your first point, if the Cowboys rescinds Prescott's tag and makes him a free agent, it makes ZERO difference whether any other team has any players with the franchise tag because the ONLY way it can be used is if the player already has an expiring contract prior to free agency starts and then a team can use it, For the 2020 season that was March 12th.. Acquiring an free agent is signing him to a contract and the franchise tag is not a valid signing. The second part of point 1 is if Prescott scoffed at signing a franchiser tag in Dallas what makes you think if it was even possible that he would sign one making the EXACT same amount he would have with the Cowboys.

It really doesn't matter what any other team has because the Cowboys rescinding Prescott's tag has less of as chance happening than I do at winning the jackpot on powerball.
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Bullet22 · May 3, 2020

Dak will get a new contract.and will have a great year....

dragon_mikal · May 3, 2020

SSoup said:
Our fans are the worst.

Nobody puts Dak in a corner!

JoaquinFenix · May 3, 2020

gjkoeppen said:
It's obvious you are confused with the franchise tag rules. Your first point, if the Cowboys rescinds Prescott's tag and makes him a free agent, it makes ZERO difference whether any other team has any players with the franchise tag because the ONLY way it can be used is if the player already has an expiring contract prior to free agency starts and then a team can use it, For the 2020 season that was March 12th.. Acquiring an free agent is signing him to a contract and the franchise tag is not a valid signing. The second part of point 1 is if Prescott scoffed at signing a franchiser tag in Dallas what makes you think if it was even possible that he would sign one making the EXACT same amount he would have with the Cowboys.

It really doesn't matter what any other team has because the Cowboys rescinding Prescott's tag has less of as chance happening than I do at winning the jackpot on powerball.
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It appears you, my good sir, are the one who’s confused. I said nothing about another team signing Prescott to a franchise tag. Reading is hard.

csirl · May 3, 2020

Even if the Cowboys think Dak is worth a long term contract, why would they sign him now? Makes no sense.

We're facing into a big recession and for the first time in the salary cap era, the cap may fall. If football is restricted this fall, we may even see a big drop in the cap - by tens of millions.

The days of paying a QB an over inflated salary because the cap is going up, and it will be good value in a couple of years, are gone.

Cowboys dont need to make a decision on Dak's contract until March 2021. By then the financial position will be a lot more certain and the market will likely be re-setting at lower rate.

gjkoeppen · May 3, 2020

FTWayne said:
can you resend the previous tag and change it to a Transition tag?

No they can't. All tags, both franchise and transition tags had to be offered by March 12th. It's amazing how often fans want to change the NFL rules so it fits their unthought out ideas.
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CowboysFaninHouston · May 3, 2020

JoaquinFenix said:
So let me get this straight: You think the Steelers will cut a future Hall of Famer, incur $44M of dead money in the process, and restructure $20M of other contracts all for the privilege of signing Prescott to a mega-deal? Oh, okay. I see now that I’m debating a crazy person.

they have shown they are willing to part ways with stars....Roth is at the end of his career. now injured and they have tried to draft his replacement. they have also shown willingness to pay their players.....

unionjack8 · May 3, 2020

Listen. I'm no Dak fan boy but this is no way shape or form changes ANYTHING on his contract negotiations.
Dalton is a great backup. That's it. Backup.

Dak is the either the future of this team long term or they trade him for draft capital. Lots of it.

Removing the tag is the stupidest thing I have ever heard

Dallas should rescind the franchise tag and let Dak walk

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