Twitter: Gary Myers: Nobody would pay Dak $30M on the open market

Philmonroe · May 3, 2020

Sevenup3000 said:
The fact you think Tannehill took his team to the AFC Championship game says all one needs know about you.

It shows he used the same logic most Dak fans use to prop his average self up and do you have a problems with it when they do it? If not you have no ground to walk on in this situation.

CowboyRoy · May 3, 2020

gjkoeppen said:
I see it's a fact because some sportswriter tweeted it? Your fact is nothing more than an opinion. You want a fact, Prescott when the off season started was the number 1 ranked free agent of ALL players with expiring contracts and remained as such until the Cowboys tagged him. The price of contracts go up EVERY season, ESPECIALLY QB's and EVERY GM knew that if Prescott were to be tagged that the price for him would be higher than 30 mil so all interested teams would also know what Prescott's agent was demanding so would have to offer much more than the tagged amount. It's amazing what common sense does.
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Philmonroe · May 3, 2020

Sevenup3000 said:
Okay...but if Dak played like crap (instead of winning Rookie of the Year Honors) after Romo got hurt, Dak would have never seen the field.

In fact, if Dak did not play amazing in preseason, in place of an injured Romo and Moore, Dak would not have seen the field because Mark Sanchez would have started.

What is your or this person's point?

If Bledsoe didn't get hurt Romo would have never seen the field? What about Tom Brady or Kirk Cousins or Nick Foles? This is a nonsensical argument.

Zeke should've won roty too but the league is QB biased.

Flamma · May 3, 2020

plasticman said:
Forgot about Bridgewater but not sure Commanders and Giants are convinced they have their QB.

They are for 2020. Sometimes it takes teams several years to admit they made a mistake with their first round pick. Look at Chicago.

xwalker · May 3, 2020

starfrombirth said:
I agree with your points in general but the truth is that Dak needs weapons and paying him what he is asking is the surest way to ensure that we won't be able to afford any more retooling. If he couldn't win with the tools and defense that we already had how will he win being paid so much that we have to jettison anyone with larger contracts (more talent)?

Lack of talent has not really been the problem for the Cowboys.

I've been in San Francisco for work a significant amount of time for the past several months.

The 49er fans that I've met all think the Cowboys had more talent than the 49ers but they think their Head Coach is top 3 while Garrett was a middle school coach at best...

If the contract offer is really 33M, that's about 16.5% of the cap.

When Russell Wilson signed for 35M, that was 18.65 of the 2019 cap.

The 16.5% percent number is right on target for QB contracts going back many years.

The numbers seem really huge to fans now, but as a percent of the salary cap the numbers have been fairly steady for many years.

gjkoeppen · May 3, 2020

ChronicCowboy said:
Most teams got their QB in the draft. Only team that passed up a QB early was Jacksonville. They might pay Dak a lot. But they could get Cam for way cheaper. I can’t think of another team.

Here's something you obviously didn't think of. Those teams that drafted their QB's, one of them probably wouldn't have if Prescott were a free agent and they got him signed. You also have to remember France, Prescott's agent, and how much he's demanding and the chances of signing for less than 30 mil is less than me winning the jackpot on powerball. If Newton was such a bargain why hasn't any team signed him?
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Flamma · May 3, 2020

cowboyec said:
obviously Dallas thinks somebody would...other wise they wouldn't have used the franchise tag and let him find out.

Yes. This is the only thing we can safely say is true. Jerry didn't even want to risk the non exclusive tag. He didn't want to risk another team giving up two first round picks and offering Dak a contract he was not willing to match.

xwalker · May 3, 2020

jjktkk said:
Lol, stat geeks seem to have a difficult time understanding this.

Zordon said:
Facts.

Have you guys ever heard Gary Myers speak? He sounds like he is mentally and emotionally challenged. It's very creepy. He gives me the feeling that his hobby might be driving an ice cream truck...

gjkoeppen · May 3, 2020

xwalker said:
Lack of talent has not really been the problem for the Cowboys.

I've been in San Francisco for work a significant amount of time for the past several months.

The 49er fans that I've met all think the Cowboys had more talent than the 49ers but they think their Head Coach is top 3 while Garrett was a middle school coach at best...

If the contract offer is really 33M, that's about 16.5% of the cap.

When Russell Wilson signed for 35M, that was 18.65 of the 2019 cap.

The 16.5% percent number is right on target for QB contracts going back many years.

The numbers seem really huge to fans now, but as a percent of the salary cap the numbers have been fairly steady for many years.

I feel sorry for you having to spend so much time in San Francisco. I was there back in the 70's and it was OK and then in 2018 and I hated it. Junkies and homeless all around begging for money where ever I went. The cops there don't do anything about it. Now with the current crisis it must be better but I still feel sorry for you.
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gjkoeppen · May 3, 2020

ondaedg said:
And Myers thinks Eli is a first ballot hall of famer...

I don't think he is but the way these sportswriter vote these days with 2 rings I don't doubt that enough of them will feel those 2 rings are enough.
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nightrain · May 3, 2020

CowboysFaninHouston said:
cousins just got paid 33 mill a year...in 5 years, he has gotten 84+66 mill contract...that's a whopping 152 mill guaranteed....

Cousins and his Agent are very astute negotiators. Wait until you see what mediocre QBs get after Mahomes signs.

Daillest88 · May 3, 2020

pansophy said:
You pick the guy who doesn’t pay anyone as your case example?

Well I know belicheck scouted Dak hard in 2016 and he is a huge fan of him. I get what your saying tho which is true. Dak would be perfect in New England , he the type of player Bill likes

gjkoeppen · May 3, 2020

Got to go. I'm going to go put my DVD of the 1995 NFC championship game on and enjoy that for a couple hours. In the off season every year I watch a game on Sunday and another one on Thursday night.
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pansophy · May 3, 2020

DakPresgoat said:
There’s a difference between using it as leverage and somebody wanting Dalton to be the full time starter. Which again, is stupid.

I like the Dalton signing as a back up.

Yeah agreed. I mean it’s a small 1 year deal so it’s obviously not intended to usurp Dak. But I also don’t like where this negotiation is headed, especially Dak wanting 4 years. If he plays on the tag and signs a 4 year deal afterwards then he should have just signed a 5 year deal and been done with it.

So if the Dak deal goes south, which I think it could still, Dalton would be fine while we searched for a long term guy. I mean with Cooper, Gallup, Dee, Zeke and an above average OL, most QBs should be okay.

Philmonroe · May 3, 2020

tyke1doe said:
I think Dak would command $30 on the open market. That's basically the bottom level when you consider what quarterbacks will be making.
But … no team would give up two first-round picks to take Dak off the Cowboys' hands, and I dare say one first-round draft pick would be stretching it.
Dak is a leader, gutsy, a team player all the intangible qualities you'd want in a quarterback. But just like Tim Tebow, he just isn't a franchise quarterback. More like Alex Smith, Kirk Cousins and, shutter, Andy Dalton.

Don't shutter my friend I've been said the qb's you mentioned including Dalton are who Dak is. That one fluke season that some haven't gotten over yet being the only difference.

xwalker · May 3, 2020

gjkoeppen said:
I feel sorry for you having to spend so much time in San Francisco. I was there back in the 70's and it was OK and then in 2018 and I hated it. Junkies and homeless all around begging for money where ever I went. The cops there don't do anything about it. Now with the current crisis it must be better but I still feel sorry for you.
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I'm on the outskirts going towards Silicon Valley. I don't really go into the actual SF city limits. The uber drivers tell me the homeless situation is really bad.

One story I've heard is that at some point in the past there was an organization that promoted support for the homeless if they came there which prompted some other cities/states to give homeless people a 1-way ticket to SF.

mattjames2010 · May 3, 2020

Daillest88 said:
We will never know... but I think Bill belicheck might.. if he had the chance

He would not. BB understands a QB on a cheap deal or a rookie contract is the way to go.

Redball Express · May 3, 2020

Hardline said:
Jerry will eventually cave and Dak knows it.

Andy Dalton at $7 mil to backup?

Dak is toast.

Philmonroe · May 3, 2020

CowboysFaninHouston said:
he has had some great HOF type player son his team....and I find it funny, people like you knock Zeke as he has lost it and he is not that good, lets not sign him, argue vehemently that Cooper is not a top 15 WR in the league and we shouldn't pay him, argue we should replace Smith because he is a shell of himself,then turn around and argue we have so much talent....its really funny

Dalton has had some very good talent on his team, never could get over the top, folded when it mattered and is 0-5 in the playoffs.....

btw, Dak with the talent he had, like Witten and the mid tier Cooper, produced the top offense, #2 passing offense, #6 scoring offense....

but but but, in the 3rd quarter of the jets game, in the second series, he showed he is not a good player, by throwing 3 bad passes that were behind the WR.....wah wah wah blah blah blah

I dislike lazy argument techniques used by most of y'all. Is there proof the person you're posting too has said these things regarding the players you've mentioned? If not your post has no legs sir.

pansophy · May 3, 2020

Daillest88 said:
Well I know belicheck scouted Dak hard in 2016 and he is a huge fan of him. I get what your saying tho which is true. Dak would be perfect in New England , he the type of player Bill likes

Yeah, he probably does but he won’t pay for it.

Redball Express said:
Andy Dalton at $7 mil to backup?

Dak is toast.

i think it can go up to 7 if he sees the field. Isn’t it only 3 guaranteed?

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