Twitter: Gary Myers: Nobody would pay Dak $30M on the open market

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So the Rams paid Goff, the Eagles paid Wentz and the premise is no one would pay Dak? Nonsense. Someone would pay Dak. There is always someone willing to pay and upset the league salary structure.

That doesn't mean I would pay Dak $35 million a year but let's not fool ourselves into claiming there are no owners dumb enough to overpay certain players. And by the way, the Cowboys haven't paid him yet.
 

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So the Rams paid Goff, the Eagles paid Wentz and the premise is no one would pay Dak? Nonsense. Someone would pay Dak. There is always someone willing to pay and upset the league salary structure.

That doesn't mean I would pay Dak $35 million a year but let's not fool ourselves into claiming there are no owners dumb enough to overpay certain players. And by the way, the Cowboys haven't paid him yet.

Goff went to the Super Bowl, Wentz is considered a QB that could play at an MVP level if he could stay healthy. Dak does not have that type of ceiling, nor the accolades. It's not comparable.
 

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So the Rams paid Goff, the Eagles paid Wentz and the premise is no one would pay Dak? Nonsense. Someone would pay Dak. There is always someone willing to pay and upset the league salary structure.

That doesn't mean I would pay Dak $35 million a year but let's not fool ourselves into claiming there are no owners dumb enough to overpay certain players. And by the way, the Cowboys haven't paid him yet.

Thank you...the premise of the tweet is beyond stupid. It essentially says “just because every other established, above average QB gets paid that $, doesn’t mean Dak should.” Uhh yeah...it kinda does, that’s how markets work.
I have no problem with anyone who can present an intelligent conversation on why not to pay Dak and how they would replace him adequately, but to put your head in the sand and just make up lies with no backing is just dumb. I have no idea who Gary Myers even is, but I’m pretty positive he has 0 inside info on what nfl franchises would/wouldn’t so no idea why anyone would even post this to begin with
 

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Lack of talent has not really been the problem for the Cowboys.

The 49er fans that I've met all think the Cowboys had more talent than the 49ers but they think their Head Coach is top 3 while Garrett was a middle school coach at best...

If the contract offer is really 33M, that's about 16.5% of the cap.

When Russell Wilson signed for 35M, that was 18.65 of the 2019 cap.

The 16.5% percent number is right on target for QB contracts going back many years.

The numbers seem really huge to fans now, but as a percent of the salary cap the numbers have been fairly steady for many years.
I was going to try and break this up to dialogue separately but I don't know how to do it easily so I will have to do it the traditional was, so bear with me.

You are right about head coach talent and I think McCarthy will make a difference... but how much. I believe the judicious approach is to put as much talent EVERYWHERE as we can.

Russell Wilson is better than Dak. He's done more with less, much like Peyton Manning, for a long time. I think Dak is good but not elite. Wilson is elite. So even though Dak's projected salary is a smaller percentage, I think the necessary talent acquisition to be able to contend for a superbowl (with Dak) is greater than what Wilson required.

Yes the numbers seem huge... because they are. Do you really think Dak should be the highest paid player in NFL history just because the timing is right? I respect your opinion X and I really like Dak but I just don't think you handicap your team like that when he is NOT the best qb in football.. because his contract came due at the right time.
 

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I was going to try and break this up to dialogue separately but I don't know how to do it easily so I will have to do it the traditional was, so bear with me.

You are right about head coach talent and I think McCarthy will make a difference... but how much. I believe the judicious approach is to put as much talent EVERYWHERE as we can.

Russell Wilson is better than Dak. He's done more with less, much like Peyton Manning, for a long time. I think Dak is good but not elite. Wilson is elite. So even though Dak's projected salary is a smaller percentage, I think the necessary talent acquisition to be able to contend for a superbowl (with Dak) is greater than what Wilson required.

Yes the numbers seem huge... because they are. Do you really think Dak should be the highest paid player in NFL history just because the timing is right? I respect your opinion X and I really like Dak but I just don't think you handicap your team like that when he is NOT the best qb in football.. because his contract came due at the right time.

That's just how contracts work. A legit young starting QB generally gets top of the market for the season when he signs a contract.

It's not as if that player gets less because the top QB the previous year is 10% better. It just doesn't work that way.

It's like having the top pick in the draft. Some years the top player available is better than the top player in other years.
- Most picks are like that. The best available at pick 20 one year might be dramatically better than the best player at 20 in other years.

In 2019:
Passing Yards:
RW: 4110
DP: 4902

Passing TDs:
RW: 31
DP: 30

Passing 1st downs:
RW: 190
DP: 229

RW: 5
DP: 11

Wilson was much better with regards to INTs in 2019 but their career average is about the same.

Career Average INTs
RW: 8.5
DP: 9.0
 

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I was going to try and break this up to dialogue separately but I don't know how to do it easily so I will have to do it the traditional was, so bear with me.

You are right about head coach talent and I think McCarthy will make a difference... but how much. I believe the judicious approach is to put as much talent EVERYWHERE as we can.

Russell Wilson is better than Dak. He's done more with less, much like Peyton Manning, for a long time. I think Dak is good but not elite. Wilson is elite. So even though Dak's projected salary is a smaller percentage, I think the necessary talent acquisition to be able to contend for a superbowl (with Dak) is greater than what Wilson required.

Yes the numbers seem huge... because they are. Do you really think Dak should be the highest paid player in NFL history just because the timing is right? I respect your opinion X and I really like Dak but I just don't think you handicap your team like that when he is NOT the best qb in football.. because his contract came due at the right time.

My other comment is that the Cowboys have put together a good roster that should be at it's peak in either 2020 or 2021.

They can't afford to waste time with an unknown (to them) QB.
 

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I wouldn't pay a dollar more than $20,000,000.00 for Dak, and that's only because I actually like Dak as a person.
4 for 100. that has been my number for Dak based on what he needs around him to win. And his resume in the postseason. And I agree he is likeable.
 

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Oh. Good. Random sports writer from NEW YORK thinks Dak is only a good QB, not worth 30 million. - Dak haters thinks its lock solid evidence.

Hall of Fame QBs Troy Aikman and Roger Staubach - Dak is the man pay him whatever he wants, Dak haters - ehhhh what do they know!!!

That, my friends, is confirmation bias at is most hideous form.

I don’t get it. I agree with the article but do not hate Dak. I’ve loved the Cowboys for 50 years. Just because I might not be sold on Dak getting 30 million doesn’t mean I do t want him to succeed and be one of our best ever players.

Its probably my age. I’m just not as reactionary as I used to be and I could get pretty bad lol.
 

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I think the Commanders would pay him well over 30. Hard to believe they actually think Haskins is the future...
 

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We've offered market price. He turned it down. Maybe not so simple.
He turned down the length of contract. Or at least that’s what we are hearing. Bro, there is no telling what the specs are. Lol. I am guessing. If he wants 40 a year then let him get the tag or walk.
 

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4 for 100. that has been my number for Dak based on what he needs around him to win. And his resume in the postseason. And I agree he is likeable.

So are you saying that because Joe Montana had Jerry Rice and a bunch of other HOFers that he wasn't that good because he needed great players around him?

This logic is mind bogglingly ridiculous.
 

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If Andy Dalton is the team's leverage then it is safe to say the team has no leverage
I'm not saying Jerry can take a "my way or the highway" approach, but he has a safety net, if Dak's agent tries to abuse what leverage they have.
 

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Exactly. Arizona! Haha oh my. So they will dump their #1 pick who perfectly fits their air raid offense!?

Maybe the Jags but as you statev they have a similar QB at a fraction of the price
Commanders will have a QB issue , Haskins has big bust potential . If they had cap space they probably woudl have made a move for QB.
 

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Look at this

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Thank you...the premise of the tweet is beyond stupid. It essentially says “just because every other established, above average QB gets paid that $, doesn’t mean Dak should.” Uhh yeah...it kinda does, that’s how markets work.
I have no problem with anyone who can present an intelligent conversation on why not to pay Dak and how they would replace him adequately, but to put your head in the sand and just make up lies with no backing is just dumb. I have no idea who Gary Myers even is, but I’m pretty positive he has 0 inside info on what nfl franchises would/wouldn’t so no idea why anyone would even post this to begin with
Here lies the problem in your logic....Dak is not an “above average” QB.
 

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so I guess you like winning contract battles, but don't care much about winning anything else....
At some point you have to stop losing every big contract negotiation and take a stand or you won't have a team. They've already offered Dak so much money, that Dak is the winner if he just signs. 33/35 minion is elite QB money and he is not an elite QB. Dak certainly does not deserve to be the highest paid QB in the league, but apparently he and his agent thinks he should be setting the new record. And just because other teams (the Rams again) paid stupid money, doesn't mean Dallas should follow suit.
 
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