Memo to Dak: Sign the damn contract now!

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Talk about a cold shower for Dak and absolute nirvana for Trubisky
Not happening, but its an eye-opener and reminder on how great Dak has it here offensively.

True leaders can handle the freezing cold:)
 

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Let me first say I'm a Dak fan.....heart and soul. But if the current offer pays him Goff money or more, he playing a dangerous game for many reasons.

  • This isn't the same country it was at the end of the season. The economy is tanking, we are facing record-breaking unemployment. The last thing fans/media wanna see is a disgruntling player arguing over whether or not to accept a contract paying him $33-34M vs $35-37M.
  • Who knows how this is going to affect the league financially a year from now. I read tweet Friday that implied it not impossible to think this thing could force the league to cut the salary cap for the first time ever. If that happens, the currents offer goes away.....fast.
  • League office is laying off employees. Hell, even the Goodell has voluntarily slashed his salary from $44M to 0.
  • He could himself quarantined for reasons we know but can't discuss here.
  • Finally, DO NOT underestimate the signing of Dalton. He appears to everything a team in leadership, work ethic and as noted in the tweet below, he's damn excited to be here. No, he hasn't played at Dak's level over the last few years but there's no reason to think you can't win with him.
  • What if he decides to play on the tag rather than accepting the current offer and injury forces him the miss several games and Dalton lights it up? Now we have a real mess (LOL).
  • Yes, we have heard Stephen and Jerry say over and over again, Dak's the guy. But did we not hear Romo was the guy also before the start of the 2016 season. My point is strange things can happen but if all reports are true, Daks has a good offer on the table. Maybe not exactly what he had hoped but good enough NOT to be moaning over a few million bucks, especially with the direction the economy is headed.
SIGN THE CONTRACT NOW DAK!!!!!





he has until july 15th after that all bets off I doubt cowboys will make an offer next off season they will tag and put him on the trade blocks unless by some miracle he gets us to the promise land this season..

Markets do change and the sins of other owners does not mean dak deserves to be paid more then wentz or Goff, all stock markets go up and down, commodities like gas and food etc up and downs a lot.. how fans here argue until they are blue int he face dak shoud get more, no not true markets fluctuate and we are about to see some owners not pay and change layers vs having their cap compromised by one or two players..its happening Winston and Mariota were cut vs paid Cousins was allowed to leave sure he got paid but is MN any futer then they were with CaseK? thats a NO they have become running team who plays defense and yet they overpay for cousins twice, thats not market that fear overreaction payments, and Daks on the tag for reason, the FO decided if Dak wont give in any like years or money , well they will start planning for his departure..

steelers went 8-8 with 3 nobody's playing qb.. hmmm
 

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It would be ironic if the salary cap is indeed cut and Dak and his agent end up taking less than what they were offered.
 

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Let me first say I'm a Dak fan.....heart and soul. But if the current offer pays him Goff money or more, he playing a dangerous game for many reasons.

  • This isn't the same country it was at the end of the season. The economy is tanking, we are facing record-breaking unemployment. The last thing fans/media wanna see is a disgruntling player arguing over whether or not to accept a contract paying him $33-34M vs $35-37M.
  • Who knows how this is going to affect the league financially a year from now. I read tweet Friday that implied it not impossible to think this thing could force the league to cut the salary cap for the first time ever. If that happens, the currents offer goes away.....fast.
  • League office is laying off employees. Hell, even the Goodell has voluntarily slashed his salary from $44M to 0.
  • He could himself quarantined for reasons we know but can't discuss here.
  • Finally, DO NOT underestimate the signing of Dalton. He appears to everything a team in leadership, work ethic and as noted in the tweet below, he's damn excited to be here. No, he hasn't played at Dak's level over the last few years but there's no reason to think you can't win with him.
  • What if he decides to play on the tag rather than accepting the current offer and injury forces him the miss several games and Dalton lights it up? Now we have a real mess (LOL).
  • Yes, we have heard Stephen and Jerry say over and over again, Dak's the guy. But did we not hear Romo was the guy also before the start of the 2016 season. My point is strange things can happen but if all reports are true, Daks has a good offer on the table. Maybe not exactly what he had hoped but good enough NOT to be moaning over a few million bucks, especially with the direction the economy is headed.
SIGN THE CONTRACT NOW DAK!!!!!






Taking your points, several involving the current situation.

Using this situation as ANY reason that ANY player should take less money that will affect them long after this crisis is over is just a poor mans cry that they are envious of how much money pro athletes make.

Yes the NFL is laying off employees that right now are not essential and will no doubt bring them back when things go back to normal just like many many many other companies out there will be doing.

Yes any player could get quarantined and that's why the medical experts and researchers have said that rushing back to playing sports is a mistake.

So far Prescott hasn't missed a SINGLE snap in his FOUR seasons of starting due to injury. In fact he's missed exactly ONE snap in those four seasons due to a equipment adjustment. If Dalton was still capable of "lighting it up" he wouldn't have been released. Being excited about being a Cowboy isn't some golden ticket that makes you good again. Heck if you are going to use that Prescott grew up a Cowboys fan and his big wish growing up was to play for the Cowboys.

If it turns out that there is a reduction in the cap next season I'm sure that they will also come up with a temporary change to the cap somewhat like the NBA has because of all the contracts that were signed prior to any thought of a reduced cap.

goodell slashed his salary because of an article in Forbes that pointed out all the CEO's that did slash their salaries during this crisis and goodell didn't want to be pointed out in a future article of executives that didn't do it. Also with making 40 mil a year is he going to go hungry if for the time being he doesn't get paid.

Yes Romo was the guy going into the 2016 season which was his 15th season and he suffered a serious injury in a sting of several injuries he suffered in his career and missed many games and the Cowboys did what many teams have had to do is to decide to go with the hot hand at the time or go back to a QB that hadn't played or even practiced in 10 weeks. I must also point out that after the Cowboys released Romo before he accepted the TV gig that 3 teams offered him contracts and he turned them down saying he was over with having to get injured to do a job. He said I'm not going to get hit up in the booth.

MEMO TO FANS

Fans have tried everything under the sun to express why Prescott shouldn't do what just about every player does and that is get the best contract they can but now fans are trying to use this crisis as the reason. Do you really think agents, like Mahomes agent, will say that because of this crisis we're going to cut 25% or whatever percent off our demands? Also Prescott nor the Cowboys read this stuff so even though I understand it's a way to vent some pent up anger, it's not going to have any affect on what happens.
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I ask this with all respect and seriousness.

IMO. Dak IS NOT, an Elite QB. For me he is an AVERAGE, perhaps a slightly ABOVE AVERAGE QB. That is having the luck and fortune to play for the Dallas Cowboys and who will most likely be surrounded by much much more talented players than he, thus elevating his gameplay. So, why can`t be be SMART, and settle for less. Deep inside me MUST know that he is not worth what he is asking for. So, why is he being stupid and demanding something he knows he cant deliver.

Why cant he smell the coffee and go like "I am in such a lucky spot. Let me shut my mouth, accept decent money, and let the FO get me better players so i CAN LOOK better"

I cant understand his stupid logic to ask for millions HE IS NOT worth
 

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'NFL' stands also for 'Not For Long'.

Jerry Jones has an excellent track record of getting contracts done for players he wants.

I have stated it many times in the past that I believe Jerry Jones has been 100% behind Dak Prescott since late October 2016. In my opinion, Jones has always wanted Prescott to agree to a mutually acceptable contract.

However, I do believe Prescott has never agreed upon the terms outlined by Jones. This will raise some folks blood pressure but I think Prescott wants a contract averaging more than Russell Wilson's $35 million per year. I also think he wants to wait-and-see if Patrick Mahomes and Kansas City agree to a contract extension sometime before mid-July--the latest Prescott can wait before signing his franchise tag to play in 2020.

Therein lies the rub. Until a day ago, Prescott had zero concern IF he decided to gamble and NOT sign the tag IF Mahomes did not get a new deal before the tag deadline. As much as some people hope, Cooper Rush is extremely unlikely to shake Jones' loyalty to Prescott if Prescott held out and Rush played. Same goes for Dinucci, whom I am sure some folks believe might have a similar rookie opportunity fall into his lap like Prescott in 2016. Possible but unlikely to shake Jones' faith in Prescott.

On the other hand, Andy Dalton has been an established starter in the league. Does Prescott take the risk of both not signing the tag and not signing a new contract and allow all the pieces to fall into place for Dalton? It is not necessary for Dalton to reincarnate into a perfect quarterback. All that is needed is for Dalton to get hot just long enough to make him the new darling of some fans and the media. Suddenly, Prescott's situation may be 'Not For Long' in Dallas.

Of course, I do not see Jones projecting Dalton to replace Prescott. Like I said, Jones has been Prescott's rock for years. That said, Jones gets contracts done for the players he wants.

I think Dalton is Jones' ploy of forcing Prescott to make a decision before mid-July by having Prescott entertain certain possibilities that did not strongly exist a few days ago. It will not surprise me if Prescott signs a new contract within the next two months at $35 million+ per year. Yeah. It will not shut up the 'He's not worth that much!' fretting that has very little to do with actual contract negotiations but it would be finalized. And old Jerruh would be grinning ear-to-ear, like he always does when he gets his way.
Jerry's ace in the hole now...all teams now have a starting quarterback, in the NFL.

Dak is lucky that he believes in giving fair market values, now in his life. He actually is a player's best friend. Not an agent firm that demands the very top dollar for everyone that they represent.

Dak doesn't realize that he should leave a little in the till, to expand the talent around him. In the end, when you win, you expand your present salary by about five times that amount from other sources. Figure that one out over about ten years now. Give up a little to win, and then ride those proceeds from every source.
 

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he has until july 15th after that all bets off I doubt cowboys will make an offer next off season they will tag and put him on the trade blocks unless by some miracle he gets us to the promise land this season..

Markets do change and the sins of other owners does not mean dak deserves to be paid more then wentz or Goff, all stock markets go up and down, commodities like gas and food etc up and downs a lot.. how fans here argue until they are blue int he face dak shoud get more, no not true markets fluctuate and we are about to see some owners not pay and change layers vs having their cap compromised by one or two players..its happening Winston and Mariota were cut vs paid Cousins was allowed to leave sure he got paid but is MN any futer then they were with CaseK? thats a NO they have become running team who plays defense and yet they overpay for cousins twice, thats not market that fear overreaction payments, and Daks on the tag for reason, the FO decided if Dak wont give in any like years or money , well they will start planning for his departure..

steelers went 8-8 with 3 nobody's playing qb.. hmmm

Your analogy of comparing the stock market, food and gas prices going up and down to NFL contract prices is foolish at best. The cost of NFL contracts have steadily gone up every year, rising faster for QB's. Also your arguing that QB's have been released as proof that teams are foregoing paying QB's so they can sign multiple players is also foolish at best. The biggest reason Winston got released is he became the first QB in the history of the NFL that threw 30 TD's AND 30 PICKS in the same season. The 30 picks were more than they could stomach anymore so they released him. Now he's been reduced to a backup QB. Mariota last season lost his starting job by week 4 and he too has been reduced to a backup QB.

Your proclamation that if Prescott plays on the tag that the Cowboys will be planning for his departure just doesn't fly. Again all we've heard this ENTIRE off season is how Jerry and Stephen have said that Prescott is their franchise QB for now and in the future. Some how that doesn't sound like a team planning to get rid of Prescott if he plays on the tag. I know it went entirely over your head that the reason the tag was offered was to make sure no other team signed him once free agency started seeing how Prescott was ranked as the number 1 free agent coming into free agency, even higher than Brady.
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Yep, so nothing to complain about. It will work itself out.

However you acted like Dak is asking for unreasonable money which is not the case. The issue is number of years of the contract, not money. Which makes you "uninformed".
People keep saying this like contract years and money are not related. They are very much related. You sign a longer contract, you get a higher number because it allows the team flexibility. You sign a shorter contract, the numbers go down because it’s worse for the team in the long run. “Agreed on money but not years” is meaningless.
 

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I agree w/ the OP. Cut the crapp and get this done. The offers made were more than fair, uptick it a bit and make a fair counteroffer, and it's done.

Yes, I'll be relieved when it's finally over. Until then we'll get multiple variations of the "You're just a lowly fan; you don't get to voice an opinion on his contract" posts. The truth is, the very purpose of a fan site is for fans to voice their views and talk about any and all things regarding the team. If a fan can have an opinion on the green-tinted home pants, he can have one on contracts, not that we expect Dak to read through posts here to decide what to do.
 

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Both sides are playing a dangerous game of chicken. Jerry knows he needs to sign Dak before July 15th this year or be stuck with the tag which will start this game all over again next year with a 20% pay raise in the tag or try to sign Dak after Watson or Mahomes gets paid insanely. The price will just get much worse if Jerry waits and signs Dak next year. How many prove it years do we need? If you are unsure now, you will definitely be unsure next year after Dak gets to play with a great line and a weapon at every position offensively. Add in the fact we improved the defense the best we could and it should at least be better than last year gives him no excuse but to succeed.

Now with Dak he may want to play on the tag. Why not? An improved offense with his track record of staying healthy? A chance at a better contract next year and all he has to do is stay healthy and sling the ball as he has before. Hell I would take that challenge myself seeing the money we put into this offense. He would really have to crap the bed to not get a better offer next year. Especially after a few other QB's get paid. His only real concern other than health should be Dallas is filling holes quickly and eventually could see replacing his butt with a top draftee being a better option than paying him 40+ million a year. It wouldn't surprise me a bit with the 11 picks next year (one going to the Eagles) that we may see value in a QB to save incredibly if they see an option there they like early. While I would love for one more year of drafting defense, you have to look at where the money is going and evaluate. Will another DE, LB, Safety, or even CB be worth the price of handicapping yourself for 4 years with a top 5 QB pay regardless if he is such.

Anyhow, I hope the front office is weighing their options. I like that Dalton was brought in as a backup and if it does get Dak to the table then that's even better. Jerry has played his hand the best he can for this off season. If this does not get a contract negotiation started before July 15th then it was not meant to be. I will say it would be foolish to play this game again next year. I would be completely surprised if we are still in this situation next year at this time. Sometimes you just have to move on no matter how much you don't want to. Here's to another 2 months of high stakes chicken. I hope in some way both sides can come away with a win but it is not looking good at the moment.

Good assessment overall but for Dak's side, you do want to sign this year to avoid another round of this next year. If it's true that Dak's camp wants a 4-year deal so he can re-up when the TV deals get done, if he plays on the tag and comes back next year, will he then ask for a 3-year deal? The front office is much less likely to grant that. Plus, you have another year of injury risk whereby you get nothing if something is career-ending. So something will get done but there's still 2 whole months left to make it happen. Not sure why fans are panicking other than it's making THEM nervous not to have things settled by now and their emotions are getting the better of them. Life's like that though.
 

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I've been hearing "Soon" since last offseason in regards to this contract. At what point do we call that prediction a bust?
 

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I ask this with all respect and seriousness.

IMO. Dak IS NOT, an Elite QB. For me he is an AVERAGE, perhaps a slightly ABOVE AVERAGE QB. That is having the luck and fortune to play for the Dallas Cowboys and who will most likely be surrounded by much much more talented players than he, thus elevating his gameplay. So, why can`t be be SMART, and settle for less. Deep inside me MUST know that he is not worth what he is asking for. So, why is he being stupid and demanding something he knows he cant deliver.

Why cant he smell the coffee and go like "I am in such a lucky spot. Let me shut my mouth, accept decent money, and let the FO get me better players so i CAN LOOK better"

I cant understand his stupid logic to ask for millions HE IS NOT worth


Here's what I see. First you say that the success Prescott has had is because of all the talent he has had around him but then you say he should take less money so the Cowboys can get different talent to surround him.

If that is a sound logic then EVERY player should just say hey just pay me 2 or 3 mil a year and I'll be happy because that's many more times more than 99.99999% of the fans make.

Why not just tell the truth, you, not Prescott thinks he wants to much unless you've had private discussions with him and he told you this.
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Well Dak's hiring of his agent (France) put this negotiation into a tail spin. France's hardball tactics are well known and I'm pretty sure Dak let that play into the switching of agents, Ka-ching $$$.

Wasn't there guide lines, framework or a proposal of a contract for Dak before he switched agents? This agent move was not well liked by the Jones.

Now here we are:

What if there seems to be no give from Dak's team.
Could they possibly want to explore trade offers (maybe another team is willing to show Dak the "Quan") after signing the tag before the deadline.
Dak gets his money /contract length and we get draft capital.

We let Andy audition for the future QB position and if he falters we have a lot of draft capital / ammo for next year.

Did anything stick against the wall?
 

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I read tweet Friday that implied it not impossible to think this thing could force the league to cut the salary cap for the first time ever
Or any reduction in games played will prorate the salaries. Its a different world and all these things are now real possibilities. To not acknowledge them is 2019 thinking.

If Dak's camp came to the table today, who knows if the Jones would sign. Any money they pay out upfront is gone. They may very well be willing to wait as long as possible to see what the season will potentially look like before handing out any big contracts.
 

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Taking your points, several involving the current situation.

Using this situation as ANY reason that ANY player should take less money that will affect them long after this crisis is over is just a poor mans cry that they are envious of how much money pro athletes make.

Yes the NFL is laying off employees that right now are not essential and will no doubt bring them back when things go back to normal just like many many many other companies out there will be doing.

Yes any player could get quarantined and that's why the medical experts and researchers have said that rushing back to playing sports is a mistake.

So far Prescott hasn't missed a SINGLE snap in his FOUR seasons of starting due to injury. In fact he's missed exactly ONE snap in those four seasons due to a equipment adjustment. If Dalton was still capable of "lighting it up" he wouldn't have been released. Being excited about being a Cowboy isn't some golden ticket that makes you good again. Heck if you are going to use that Prescott grew up a Cowboys fan and his big wish growing up was to play for the Cowboys.

If it turns out that there is a reduction in the cap next season I'm sure that they will also come up with a temporary change to the cap somewhat like the NBA has because of all the contracts that were signed prior to any thought of a reduced cap.

goodell slashed his salary because of an article in Forbes that pointed out all the CEO's that did slash their salaries during this crisis and goodell didn't want to be pointed out in a future article of executives that didn't do it. Also with making 40 mil a year is he going to go hungry if for the time being he doesn't get paid.

Yes Romo was the guy going into the 2016 season which was his 15th season and he suffered a serious injury in a sting of several injuries he suffered in his career and missed many games and the Cowboys did what many teams have had to do is to decide to go with the hot hand at the time or go back to a QB that hadn't played or even practiced in 10 weeks. I must also point out that after the Cowboys released Romo before he accepted the TV gig that 3 teams offered him contracts and he turned them down saying he was over with having to get injured to do a job. He said I'm not going to get hit up in the booth.

MEMO TO FANS

Fans have tried everything under the sun to express why Prescott shouldn't do what just about every player does and that is get the best contract they can but now fans are trying to use this crisis as the reason. Do you really think agents, like Mahomes agent, will say that because of this crisis we're going to cut 25% or whatever percent off our demands? Also Prescott nor the Cowboys read this stuff so even though I understand it's a way to vent some pent up anger, it's not going to have any affect on what happens.
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I actually agree with most this.........notice I said IF the current offer matched or was more than Goff money. So I'm not suggesting he take a discount by any means. But Dak admitted he didn't deserve Wilson money ($35M ) until he wins a Super Bowl. But my main point or an attempt was the country is tanking financially and it's not a reach to think it's going impact the league at some point, perhaps not in a major way but still. Just not a good time to be fighting over a contract that where you are set to make over $32M a year......just my opinion.
 

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I think he ends up getting signed and all this will go away other than the people saying we over paid. Lol.
 

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I actually agree with most this.........notice I said IF the current offer matched or was more than Goff money. So I'm not suggesting he take a discount by any means. But Dak admitted he didn't deserve Wilson money ($35M ) until he wins a Super Bowl. But my main point or an attempt was the country is tanking financially and it's not a reach to think it's going impact the league at some point, perhaps not in a major way but still. Just not a good time to be fighting over a contract that where you are set to make over $32M a year......just my opinion.
I remember him saying he didn’t expect Wilson money because he hasn’t been to or won a SB. It won’t stop his agent for asking. At some point Dak may have to step in and get more involved. Will he sign a 4 year deal making slightly more than goff. Slightly more guaranteed and per year. Without knowing the actual offers it’s hard to tell if he is being greedy.
 

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People keep saying this like contract years and money are not related. They are very much related. You sign a longer contract, you get a higher number because it allows the team flexibility. You sign a shorter contract, the numbers go down because it’s worse for the team in the long run. “Agreed on money but not years” is meaningless.

Years is definitely meaningful. But its Dak that wants less years, not Cowboys.

So the Cowboys are just trying to be cute. Dak is actually taking the risk by wanting less years and betting on himself. Most teams would jump at a shorter contract and less commitment. Trolls would definitely like that.
 

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Years is definitely meaningful. But its Dak that wants less years, not Cowboys.

So the Cowboys are just trying to be cute. Dak is actually taking the risk by wanting less years and betting on himself. Most teams would jump at a shorter contract and less commitment. Trolls would definitely like that.
There has to be something else in addition to the years holding this up. Maybe guaranteed money. He may want 4 years but 6 years worth of guaranteed money.
 

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There has to be something else in addition to the years holding this up. Maybe guaranteed money. He may want 4 years but 6 years worth of guaranteed money.

Are you assuming that? Im sure there are little things. But how many years are you really going to guarantee on a 4 years contract? 3 years makes sense. I cant imagine Dak's party wants a 4 year deal with all 4 years guaranteed.
 
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