Cowherd’s interesting take on Dalton

FuzzyLumpkins said:

Stats are representative of actual events in actual football games. They are also excellent predictors of future events. it does not get any more real than the game itself.

Compare with your emotional qualitative opinions, cherry picked anecdotes, and a "skills competition" from 3 years ago.

All I get from your faction is a decided lack of critical or scientific thinking and a whole lot of groupthink.

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First or second chair?

So McCarthy spoke to Andy as soon as he was available, but took 2 weeks to call Dak


Interesting

morat1959 said:

First or second chair?

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Also in your case, intellectual cowardice.

Canada180 said:

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lol I actually never saw this.

PAPPYDOG said:

Do you have anything else in your life with the exception of HATE?
Chill its only a game....dang...

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Now this is rich. The forum's biggest and daily Dak hater criticizing me for calling him out on his hate by labeling me a lover of hate?

Dre11 said:

Some are just gamers.

It was challenging because what Prescott was in workouts and practices wasn't what he is in games.

"I will tell you this about Dak," Jones said. "In practice, he does not throw it as accurately as he does in a game. That's been going on out here. It's not for lack of want to or effort. It's not perfect like it was when [Troy] Aikman was here. Romo throws it to perfection. Dak has a lot of gamer in him. When the lights come on, he plays better than he does in practice. For whatever reason, it seems like everything seems to refine at the right time."

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FuzzyLumpkins said:

Also in your case, intellectual cowardice.

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Let’s start with pass, catch, run, block, tackle and kick. I’ll work with you from there once you can watch a game and get these down pat. I’m waiting on 1st or 2nd chair?

Dalton, starting for Dallas, only in the mind of analyst and some fans.

NotForLong said:

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I tell you this, it makes more sense than idiots thinking a studio or off the cuff throwing competition is some sort of evaluation of someone's accuracy

morat1959 said:

Let’s start with pass, catch, run, block, tackle and kick. I’ll work with you from there once you can watch a game and get these down pat. I’m waiting on 1st or 2nd chair?

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I get that you desperately want to change the subject from what we were discussing. I am not taking the bait.

Canada180 said:

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I like Dak let me get that out of the way first before I am labeled a hater.. I’m not even sure he’d have been able to hit water if he jumped off a boat with that accuracy.

He couldnt hit me with a handful of sand!!

Dre11 said:

I tell you this, it makes more sense than idiots thinking a studio or off the cuff throwing competition is some sort of evaluation of someone's accuracy

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Accuracy is accuracy it can't be faked.

Your post totally rips Dak apart

FuzzyLumpkins said:

Stats are representative of actual events in actual football games. They are also excellent predictors of future events. it does not get any more real than the game itself.

Compare with your emotional qualitative opinions, cherry picked anecdotes, and a "skills competition" from 3 years ago.

All I get from your faction is a decided lack of critical or scientific thinking and a whole lot of groupthink.

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Wrong. Statistics are a reference to be used as a tool in evaluating a player. Forgetting about actually watching a player play and a player passing the eye test is important as well. Case in point, Dak having a career year last year statistically, yet the team finishing 8-8.

I worry that one of Daks classic 3 feet behind , high or low is gonna get Lamb crushed in the middle. really.

WillieBeamen said:

Hes spot on when he said McCarthy didnt reach out to Dak

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I thought we saw that he DID reach out to Dak?

Like said, I think Dalton is McCarthy's idea.

Matt said:

Take it for what it’s worth

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Slater's take is correct.

The Cowboys, by dint of putting the tag on Dak, are saying they're fine with paying him 35 million a year, or thereabouts. They don't want to get rid of him, and just using common sense, if they really thought Dalton was at all comparable, they'd just rescind the tag now. Dalton is insurance against Dak getting hurt or not signing his offer sheet until the 11th hour.

And this is coming from someone who likes but doesn't love Dak. I don't think he's a top 5 guy. But it's been obvious for a couple of years at least now that the Cowboys *do* think he is worth that crazy top 5 money.

Also, Cowherd always comes across to me like a guy who's trying to bait Frank Caliendo into developing an impression of him.

People are asking the wrong question here.

Is Dak better than Dalton?...………………..I think most analysts would say yes, but this is the wrong question to ask.

The question should be "Is Dak at $35 million better than Dalton at $7 million"?...……………...Is Dak 5 times the QB Dalton is?

Most would say probably not.

jjktkk said:

Wrong. Statistics are a reference to be used as a tool in evaluating a player. Forgetting about actually watching a player play and a player passing the eye test is important as well. Case in point, Dak having a career year last year statistically, yet the team finishing 8-8.

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thus football being a team sport. Of all the major US sports, it is the most team oriented in practice.

In the games where the offence was poor the OL and running game struggled too. There were plenty of games where the defense gave up points. Nevermind they were terrible in the field position game, in getting turnovers, and in the kicking game.

Yes Dak had some bad games. He got skunked by New England for example. Detractors like to hand wave at the Philly game but ignore the injury to his throwing shoulder. Even then all QBs have bad games. That is true for Rodgers, Wilson, Brees, Mahomes, and all th rest as well. Biasing out most results and wandwaving at your preffered outcome is not valid analysis.

As for stats, what I wrote was precise. When a RB back has runs of 5, 6, 5, 7, 10, -2 and it is said he had 31 yards on 6 carries thus numbers are based completely on real events. Same holds true with throws, catches, and their respective efficiency stats.

Further stats are the best predictors of future events. Given Dak's age there is every reason to believe he will improve on last years numbers.

Team W-L records are not predictive of much of anything. It's just good for determining playoff seeding, the following years schedule, draft order, and trying to find someone to blame about something upsetting.