What Will Happen At Quarterback This Year?

What will happen at the position in the near future?


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Idgit

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4 year deal is a big W for Dak and big loss for Dallas.


I do not mind the short deal because the quicker we can move on and get another QB for cheap the better.

Paying Dak whatever he wants pretty much kisses our Super Bowl chances goodbye until about year 4 of that deal or a CBA kicks in early.

It’s a win for Dak, no doubt. I don’t agree that it kisses anything goodbye, though. It does make it harder because you have to get contributions from players down on the roster or hit on value free agents. But the correlation between cap utilization/maximization and winning championships isn’t so strong that you’d think you can’t win with a good QB on his second deal.
 

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The Bengals went 2-14 last year and it's probably not due to Dalton. Their team was abysmal. Dalton is not a superstar. A good or great quarterback is not 12-4 no matter what team he plays for. They don't play in a vacuum. Dalton was a fairly decent QB that played well when the pieces were around him. Not so well when they weren't. You can even make a case against Troy Aikman when the team fell apart. Does that make him crap? The same thing can happen to Dak that happened to Romo and Aikman if he holds out. If another QB has a winning streak while you're gone, you'll be riding the pine.

Maybe it was the talent around him or maybe he just declined as a player. That too is an option. None of us were watching Bengals games all these years to know for sure but that team saw enough to want to start over. Like I said, the FO has to ask themselves if they want to chance it if they're thinking of playing hardball. Newton would have been the better leverage guy for that route. He was a former MVP at least. Dalton was just the cheaper guy here so I'm betting he was more back-up guy than a "we'll roll with him instead of Dak" guy.
 

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Stepping in here....sure, Dalton was signed to be a backup. But the leverage is a bit different now because Dallas is no longer totally screwed if Dak holds out for awhile.
They have to have a drop dead date in place for Prescott because this is a new offense.

In the beginning, it was a modified O with most of the same terminology and that has changed to a new offense. If this was a leverage move by the Joneses, they need to apply it at that date established by their HC for his QB to get on the same page with him and Moore.

The problem isn't Prescott or his agent, the problem is the Joneses keep talking about a long term deal instead of once the tag was implemented, tabling everything long term and just moving on with this season. They have Dalton, fine, open it up for the QB1 competition because it's a level playing field with a new offense. Best man gets the job and if that's Dalton, they know what they need to do going forward and Prescott isn't in those plans because I am not certain he could beat Dalton out. And then Chunky Soup can change their slogan to "when you are out of your favorite soup, try Chunky". Good luck with those endorsements as a backup, losing his job. He only got the damned job because of a lack of competition.
 

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Maybe it was the talent around him or maybe he just declined as a player. That too is an option. None of us were watching Bengals games all these years to know for sure but that team saw enough to want to start over. Like I said, the FO has to ask themselves if they want to chance it if they're thinking of playing hardball. Newton would have been the better leverage guy for that route. He was a former MVP at least. Dalton was just the cheaper guy here so I'm betting he was more back-up guy than a "we'll roll with him instead of Dak" guy.

I'll lean more towards talent around him because Dalton wasn't the greatest to begin with.

IMO Cam wouldn't be a leverage guy, he'd be a replacement. Cam is going to want to be paid well and a starter. We wouldn't sign both. Dalton at best is an insurance policy in a worse case scenario.
 

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He hasn't .......only thing close is when he said he would not attend any offseason programs w/o a new deal.
Sums it up.
Not on the subject, but if he isn't technically a team member (signed contract) can he participate in team activities?
 

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"Before camp" must be before July 15. Only one-year contracts can be negotiated after the deadline during the 2020 season.
It never ceases to amaze me how anyone believes Jerral Wayne Jones would entertain even a 0.00001% chance of losing a player he is devoted to. The man has almost literally grown umbilical cords to some players over the past 30 years.

In my opinion, there was no way in West Hell Jones would tender Prescott to a non-exclusive franchise tag. Some people wanted Prescott to test the free agency market and Jones likely had the exact opposite thought.
Not that I disagree with your assessment of his thinking, (plus, I don't fully understand the workings of the free agent market) but could someone clarify what Jerry would lose by allowing the non-exclusive franchise tag? He would have right of first refusal option, right?
Would he risk Prescott going to another team because he possibly couldn't match that offer?
 

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Dak WILL be bold enough to hold out, mark my words. However, I do NOT think he expected the signing of Dalton, messing up his ultimate plan.

See, this was Dak's OG plan.

He saw what happened to Zeke. To Lawerence. Even Amari to an extend. He saw them threaten to holdout. He knows the power of the QB status, and thought he could do the same. There was a flaw in his plan, however.

When Zeke held out, we had no replacement. Its hard to have a "bad" RB, but it's also hard to find a Top 5 talent RB such as Zeke, Kamara, Saquon, Dalvin Cook, Aaron Jones, etc. That's why his holdout worked (along with the fact that he has broken records and has significant importance in our games, as we don't seem to do well without him). We also didn't know how good Tony Pollard was going to be, and I doubt he would be as great as he was as if he didn't have Zeke along side him this past season.

D-Law had already been tagged once, and refused to be tagged again. Same situation as Zeke. We had no other magnificent DE to fill in his spot, and considering how well he did in the 2018-2019 season, of course his demand was high. He, like Zeke, had leverage.

Amari is a bit different, but around the same. You can tell he's a little more giving considering he actually stayed with the Cowboys instead of taking the higher deal with the Redskanks.

Dak, however, has no leverage as of right now. He thought since Jerry broke the bank three times, he'd do it again, however, 4th time is indeed NOT a charm. The Dalton signing has changed everything. Why you may ask? Here's the answer:

Is Dalton as good as Dak? That's hard to say, considering how many weapons he's had in Cincy vs. how many weapons Dak has had in the past 2-3 years. However, I'll admit as of now, Dak is better, younger, faster, and more durable. This does NOT mean he's miles better than Dalton. Dak is marginally better. Ask yourself: Would you pay a marginally better QB 28 mil more than an average QB that can likely produce at a close level as said marginally better QB? I would not. This signing shows that if Dak wants to hold out, they have a plan with Dalton. Dalton played great his first few years, and may end up becoming a silver fox (becoming better as he ages). Dak had leverage because Cooper Rush was terrible and he knew Dallas wouldn't want to go into the season with Cooper as QB1. Now that that's not happening, he should be shifting his demands, however, I have a feeling he won't. And my feelings are usually correct (Go back and read my previous "crazy" predictions that many thought were wrong at the time).

Dak will only hurt himself in the process. I understand wanting market money. I understand he's been paid dust these past few years. I understand football is a business. However, many are acting as if he hasn't been given offers. From my understanding, he's been offered money that would make him the highest paid player in the NFL, but is making a huge dramedy out of an extra year on the contract. Why is the extra year such a big deal? Why can't the cowboys make an incentive for how well he plays will depend on a 4th/5th year option? There are better ways for this negotiation to go. Either way, Dak is playing harder ball than the boys are. I feel like he will holdout and soon realize he mad a mistake. Especially if Dalton leads this team to not only the playoffs, but the Superbowl. We will then have a Foles vs. Wentz situation on our hands.... which I will then say: Trade up as much as possible to get Trevor Lawerence.
 

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Other:
-Dak signs his tender
-Dalton clearly outplays Dak in preseason and looks sharper in training camp
-#14 Jerseys line the stadium and Dak sits the bench wondering "what if he played better vs the eagles, da bears, the bills, and the patriots in 4 of the last 6 games in 2019"...
 

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I must be honest. It is surprising that a certain poster has not voted for the poll's fourth option yet. o_O
 

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We’ll get a four year deal done before camp, if nothing else. Hopefully, they can make a five year deal work. This really is a great spot for Dak long-term. He’ll sign eventually.
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