If Dalton signs with another team next year, do Cowboys get a comp pick?

ThatJerryKid · May 4, 2020

So if Dalton backs up Dak for 1 year and then signs a 3 year deal with somebody next year to be their starting QB, do the Cowboys get a comp pick for Dalton? If so, I would think it would be a high comp pick? Anybody know if that’s true?

NorthwestDallas40 · May 4, 2020

Yes it’s true. How much he signs for determines the comp pick. And he must sign during the first free agency period (I.e. before the draft).

Kaiser · May 4, 2020

Pretty sure that the fact he was cut means no comp pick is tied to him either way. @ksg811 is the guy to answer the question definitively.

Carson · May 4, 2020

Kaiser said:
Pretty sure that the fact he was cut means no comp pick is tied to him either way. @ksg811 is the guy to answer the question definitively.

Pretty sure this is correct

Oneiros · May 4, 2020

ThatJerryKid said:
So if Dalton backs up Dak for 1 year and then signs a 3 year deal with somebody next year to be their starting QB, do the Cowboys get a comp pick for Dalton? If so, I would think it would be a high comp pick? Anybody know if that’s true?

Yes, this is subject to a later comp pick.

So hopefully someone will sign him to a long term contract after the season finishes and it's another way that we can benefit from it.

Manwiththeplan · May 4, 2020

Kaiser said:
Pretty sure that the fact he was cut means no comp pick is tied to him either way. @ksg811 is the guy to answer the question definitively.

The OP is asking about us getting a comp pick in the 2022 draft (for players that leave after 2021) and considering Dalton won't be cut, the determining factors will be how many free agents we signed/lost and how much Dalton is signed for. Also think it's unlikely Dalton signs a large enough deal to get us a high draft pick.

The fact that Dalton was cut, means we don't get penalized for signing him, however we signed him after the window for free agents to count towards the 2021 equation closed.

Kaiser · May 4, 2020

Manwiththeplan said:
The OP is asking about us getting a comp pick in the 2022 draft

I don't think Dalton would qualify in any circumstance but I'll wait for KSG to weigh in. Also from a quick look, a player with ten years of service can't bring more than a 5th round comp anyway.

fivetwos · May 4, 2020

Manwiththeplan said:
The OP is asking about us getting a comp pick in the 2022 draft (for players that leave after 2021) and considering Dalton won't be cut, the determining factors will be how many free agents we signed/lost and how much Dalton is signed for. Also think it's unlikely Dalton signs a large enough deal to get us a high draft pick.

The fact that Dalton was cut, means we don't get penalized for signing him, however we signed him after the window for free agents to count towards the 2021 equation closed.

If he signs somewhere with a likely starting position, he would likely get something like 3 yrs for 40-50m, which would probably be a 5th round pick.

I personally would like to have him around as a backup rather than an extra 5th round pick.

I don't think theres going to be a huge market for a team to count on a 33yo with limited upside to start at QB.

I think he ends up staying home for the remainder of his career.

speedkilz88 · May 4, 2020

He doesn't get Cincinnati a comp pick because they cut him. But next year yeah he's eligible to give the Cowboys a comp pick in 2022. And qb money it would be a 3rd. Now those can be cancelled out if you sign a comparable player or you sign more (or equal) than you lose.

morat1959 · May 4, 2020

Dak will be backing up Dalton at some point this season. Write it down!

speedkilz88 · May 4, 2020

Kaiser said:
I don't think Dalton would qualify in any circumstance but I'll wait for KSG to weigh in. Also from a quick look, a player with ten years of service can't bring more than a 5th round comp anyway.

He would be right at ten years, so that could affect the pick.

ksg811 · May 4, 2020

He would qualify for a 2022 compensatory pick next offseason if he completes his 1 year deal. He does not impact this year’s comp formula for either Dallas or Cincinnati.

And as for the 10 year rule I’ve seen mentioned a couple times, QBs are excluded from that rule. Quarterbacks are completely dependent on the CFA formula, regardless of years of experience.

Angus12 · May 5, 2020

Kaiser said:
I don't think Dalton would qualify in any circumstance but I'll wait for KSG to weigh in. Also from a quick look, a player with ten years of service can't bring more than a 5th round comp anyway.

xwalker · May 5, 2020

ThatJerryKid said:
So if Dalton backs up Dak for 1 year and then signs a 3 year deal with somebody next year to be their starting QB, do the Cowboys get a comp pick for Dalton? If so, I would think it would be a high comp pick? Anybody know if that’s true?

Kaiser said:
Pretty sure that the fact he was cut means no comp pick is tied to him either way. @ksg811 is the guy to answer the question definitively.

Signing him does not take away from the Cowboys comp pick formula this year because he was cut.

Because he signed a 1 year contract, he will be a free agent next year (not a cut) and would quality for a comp pick if he signed a large enough contract to quality.

Since he is unlikely to sign a large contract, it's doubtful that they get anything, but in theory it is possible.

Kaiser · May 5, 2020

Angus12 said:

Stupid.

Kaiser · May 5, 2020

xwalker said:
Because he signed a 1 year contract, he will be a free agent next year (not a cut) and would quality for a comp pick if he signed a large enough contract to quality.

I really like the scenario where he settles into Dallas and gives them a great backup for years at a price something like this. If he does find a starting job next year he could bring back a decent comp pick or at the very least, cancel out one of our signings in the formula.

Cowboys22 · May 5, 2020

xwalker said:
Signing him does not take away from the Cowboys comp pick formula this year because he was cut.

Because he signed a 1 year contract, he will be a free agent next year (not a cut) and would quality for a comp pick if he signed a large enough contract to quality.

Since he is unlikely to sign a large contract, it's doubtful that they get anything, but in theory it is possible.

You don't think Andy Dalton will sign a deal next offseason worth enough to get a comp pick? The deal he signed with us would bring back a pick. I have no doubt in my mind he will bring back the highest comp pick we have ever had. He will sign somewhere next year for $15 million+ per season to go be a starter. That will bring back a 3rd.

Joe Realist · May 5, 2020

Oneiros said:
Yes, this is subject to a later comp pick.

So hopefully someone will sign him to a long term contract after the season finishes and it's another way that we can benefit from it.

2021: Cowboys sign Andy Dalton to 3 year, $45 million contract.

Manster68 · May 5, 2020

I just have a feeling Dalton will be a Cowboy for the next 5 years. He will be in both a backup and starter status. I don't think he wants to leave home.

Kaiser · May 5, 2020

Manster68 said:
I just have a feeling Dalton will be a Cowboy for the next 5 years. He will be in both a backup and starter status. I don't think he wants to leave home.

I love that scenario. Dalton has already made ** money, he is at home and he gets a good at a SB ring. Something he had no shot at in Cincinnati.

If Dalton signs with another team next year, do Cowboys get a comp pick?

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