Cowherd’s interesting take on Dalton

NotForLong

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Re read my post. It explains what “seeing it with your eyes” means.

Also, Dak doesn’t dink and dunk. He doesn’t at all. So you saying that just proves you have no clue what you’re talking about.

There are also a lot more advanced metrics than just completion percentage that shows Dak’a
Accuracy overall is well above average for NFL starting QB’s.
You are gonna make the claim that Dak doesn't Dink and Dunk. Right there you lose all crediability. Only time Dak goes down field is in garbage time when opposing defenses are playing off the WR
 

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You are gonna make the claim that Dak doesn't Dink and Dunk. Right there you lose all crediability. Only time Dak goes down field is in garbage time when opposing defenses are playing off the WR


https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/ww...s-a-very-good-downfield-passer-dallas-cowboys


this is just ONE article from last off season, before Dak’s downfield passing got even better this past year.

Dak is not a dink dunk passer at all, and is actually one of the most accurate deep ball passers in the league.

it’s not an opinion, it’s fact.

you’re just single minded and ignorant and believe Dak is a “dink and dunker” based off your meaningless, BS “eye test”.

that’s just the reality.


you have no credibility and can’t be taken seriously because you just spew subjective opinion that has no basis in actual fact.
 

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Stop it.
You are implying its Psychological "deep seeded". It's not 1 pass. You are using this as your straw man. Those who criticize Dak are doing it subjectively.

Completion percentage is not subjective at all. There are too many variables to Factor in.
(Coaching, WR talent, offensive scheames, weather conditions, Strength of schedule, opposing defensive rankings, O Line Talent, Backfield talent, if QB takes 6 seconds to survey the field just to check down . . . etc. . . etc.

I never look at the stat line I watch the games. Ever since all the rule changes the Stats are worthless indicators.

Hence the Enigma that is Dak
Stop it? lol

Why, because you say so? Well that settles it!

By the way, I said completion % is not subjective, and now you are arguing with me by saying completion % is not subjective. Huh? lol

And yes, there are variables with completion %, which is why I specifically said completion % has flaws.

Maybe you didn't read my post very well.
 

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You are mentally deranged if you believe that
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This was actually my first time seeing this clip. I like Dak as a person but even he looked slightly embarrassed and I kinda felt bad.


He looked bad at the pro bowl games his 1st time. Lamb will mitigate these issues
 

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Ten minutes of a rant? Hmmm. Just not that interested in what someone with no actual pedigree that I should care what they think thinks. At least he's not a screamer like that SASmith guy, I'll grant that.
It was a spot-on perfect summation of the situation.

McCarthy isn't particularly impressed with Dak. He's accustomed to Farve and Rodgers.

Dalton is just as good at this point.
 

erod

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The video is nice, but irrelevant. Maybe go check out Carr's stats when he played. Played 12 seasons and ended up with 14,452 yds. Threw 65 TDs and 71 INTs. Not to mention his 71 fumbles.
Playing for an expansion team with virtually no talent and no pass protection whatsoever.

Dak inherited A PERFECT offense and drove the bus. Now the league knows him and toys with him. He's easy to scheme against. Opponents want the ball in his hands.
 

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McCarthy isn't particularly impressed with Dak.

No offense, but this fan self-deception that any one of us have the telepathic capacity to divine what McC is impressed with or isn't is waaaaaaaaaaay too common around these parts.

I can't say either way.

And I'm in the vast majority, if it's not unanimous.

We just need to prize intellectual honesty a whole lot more than we tend to.
 

erod

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No offense, but this fan self-deception that any one of us have the telepathic capacity to divine what McC is impressed with or isn't is waaaaaaaaaaay too common around these parts.

I can't say either way.

And I'm in the vast majority, if it's not unanimous.

We just need to prize intellectual honesty a whole lot more than we tend to.
Teams don't fear Dak. At all.

They scheme to put the game in his hands. His limitations make him easy to defend. Hence, the continuous red zone and third down failures.
 

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Go to 1:25 in the video. Dak wins on the longer throws...

Dak hit 1 throw, not throw(s). All the other throws Carr hit.

Carr probably gets to practice that game anyways on set where Dak just got thrown into the fire.

I rather have Dak than David Carr but it looked bad and even Dak was saying "bad day at the office".
 

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@erod you're welcome to that opinion, and it may even be valid.

That's a different thing than pretending oneself to be bringing tablets down from The Star to reveal what the boss really thinks. That's all I'm getting at.
 

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Dak hit 1 throw, not throw(s). All the other throws Carr hit.

Carr probably gets to practice that game anyways on set where Dak just got thrown into the fire.

I rather have Dak than David Carr but it looked bad and even Dak was saying "bad day at the office".

Dak hit both of the last 2 throws...
 

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It was a spot-on perfect summation of the situation.

McCarthy isn't particularly impressed with Dak. He's accustomed to Farve and Rodgers.

Dalton is just as good at this point.
This!!.
Hell I'm just hoping a guy like Dalton will push Dak to improve his game. This is Daks wake up call so how are you when someone is breathing over your shoulder Dak? Aikman, Staubach, Farve many of the greats went through this competition and it either brings out the best or the worst in an athlete. Dak needs to prove/contend he's franchise worthy this year or he can be another pretender like we have seen in so many other NFL QB's who are biding their time to retirement.
 

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Dude, you need to just sit down.

You lost this argument many months ago, and yet you keep on.

Dak is just a guy. That has been proven 10 times over.
Your delusional spews haven't changed. Still self proclaiming a "winner."
Another whiner putting stock into an off the field contest.
 

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Seems like a pretty lucid description of the situation. We should all agree that Dalton is a serviceable QB that has proven he can have some success with great talent around him, Dak has done the same. Where we disagree is, that Dakota has ELITE talent. Neither he nor Dalton have it so why not just go with the 3 million dollar option instead of the 35-40 million one?

Either serviceable Qb can drive this bus so lets get better defensive players with the money
 

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The one thing puzzling about arguments of in-game 'quarterback accuracy' is either the:
  1. lack of accountability attributed to receivers in catching passes (con side) and
  2. dismissal of the receiver's part in catching passes (pro side)
Takes two to complete any pass. Even so, one side's argument is that Prescott throws too many uncatchable passes.

Not entirely true.

The other side essentially argues Prescott throws many well-thrown passes they should have and were caught without difficulty as 'validated' by his completion percentage.

Also not entirely true.

Any remotely 'fair' evaluation and discussion of any quarterback's accuracy must include a proper sampling review of actual passes thrown. Only then can anyone honestly judge whether the quarterback throws enough catchable balls (like any other capable quarterback) and the receiver had the opportunity to do his job.

It is the receiver's job, ESPECIALLY N-F-L level receivers, to haul in catchable passes. That is what they are paid to do, some handsomely. No quarterback should be negatively graded for passes that should have been caught but were dropped or defended well (because the opponent's defense are also paid to do their jobs). The same is true for quarterback passes that are either extremely difficult or impossible to catch (e.g not catchable) but are ignored in a positive assessment.

There should be some compromise for bringing radically opposing views towards the middle by acknowledging what receivers do or do not do in completing passes. The compromise is practically nonexistent though. Even during those rare moments a compromise happens, there is disagreement in how different people critique catchable passes. Thus, receivers receive another argumentative pass. Pun intended.

I do not know. These conversations happen on internet forums, at games, at sports bars and in living rooms. It is just weird how 'everything' is almost always lumped onto the quarterback's shoulders, regards if the arguments are beating the quarterback like a dead horse or setting him atop a pristine pedestal of gold.

Whatever.

/rant
 
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